Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 313635 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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Ink

Philadelphia, PA

#295667 May 12, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>Only you would take what I said that way.
Freak.
And no - but it would be nice, if there were more effort to actually reduce the risks of pregnancy, rather than reducing access to the legal medical procedure which allows women to avoid those risks...since if pregnancy wasn't such a risky endeavor, even in one of the most 'medically advanced' countries in the world, there might be more women willing to take it on.
What makes you think there is a high maternal mortality rate in this country? Do you really think women are avoiding pregnancy for fear of death?
Katie

Tacoma, WA

#295668 May 12, 2013
Ink wrote:
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So that no one is confused, what does an abortion do to a fetus?
Are you confused?

Pregnancy ends prior to term, but fetus is viable, it may survive. For a while. With complications, perhaps, but perhaps not.

Pregnancy ends prior to term, but fetus is not viable, it may not survive.

Still confused?

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#295669 May 12, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
What makes you think there is a high maternal mortality rate in this country??
The Maternal Health Accountability Act of 2011.

It's more dangerous to give birth in the United States than in 49 other countries. African-American women are at almost four times greater risk than Caucasian women. A safe pregnancy is a human right for every woman regardless of race or income.

The Maternal Health Accountability Act of 2011 would establish accountability, fight maternal health disparities, and combat severe maternal complications. Urge your representative to co-sponsor the bill!

Take Action!
http://www.amnestyusa.org/our-work/campaigns/...

(So many people had your apathetic attitude toward maternal mortality in the US, that the act wasn't even considered for debate on the floor of the Senate in 2011, and was tabled indefinitely in 2013.)
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you really think women are avoiding pregnancy for fear of death?
I had an abortion for fear of death. So yes, I think it happens. Certainly more often than you seem to think it does.
Gtown71

United States

#295670 May 12, 2013
elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text>Gtown71 appears to have a strong aversion to education.
I'm sorry, but I was under the impression, that when a persons heart beat on it's own, and they breathed on their own, and all YOUR job was, was to feed them, and you stopped feeding them, they starved to death?

How many do you know in nursing homes that don't even know they are there, yet they are fed and cared for?

Plus her own mother and father wanted her alive, hubby had moved on, so why not give her back to her parents, or do you feel when YOU think it is time to pull the plug on folks, it should be done?

She lived untill they stopped feeding her, then layed there till she died many days later??? Perhaps you can educate me on what took place?

Slippery slope. That guy didn't care one bit, and even had her creamated, if I remember right AGAINST her parents will.

I pray you never have that kind of son in law.

Cpeter seems to think the parents were the problem, could it be they loved their little girl?

Has any other came out of acoma after being told they wouldn't ?
Gtown71

United States

#295671 May 12, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>
The Maternal Health Accountability Act of 2011.
It's more dangerous to give birth in the United States than in 49 other countries. African-American women are at almost four times greater risk than Caucasian women. A safe pregnancy is a human right for every woman regardless of race or income.
The Maternal Health Accountability Act of 2011 would establish accountability, fight maternal health disparities, and combat severe maternal complications. Urge your representative to co-sponsor the bill!
Take Action!
http://www.amnestyusa.org/our-work/campaigns/...
(So many people had your apathetic attitude toward maternal mortality in the US, that the act wasn't even considered for debate on the floor of the Senate in 2011, and was tabled indefinitely in 2013.)
<quoted text>
I had an abortion for fear of death. So yes, I think it happens. Certainly more often than you seem to think it does.
Yes it happens, so do rape and incest cases, but if abortion was only for those three, the clinics would only run 1 month out of the year, tops. More like 2 weeks :(

Rare.
Gtown71

United States

#295672 May 12, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
The schiavo case was very much like my father's. It took two days for my father's body to stop functioning on its own. Fortunately, his family wasn't interfering in the process.
Terri was NOT coming back, no matter how much her insane family said she was. They interfered in his right to guardianship for years. Yes, he tried to move on, because his wife was dead in very meaningful way. Eventually, her family had to be banned from the hospital; her siblings tied to feed her orally. If you think starvation is a nasty way to go, look up death by aspiration. However, there was no suffering; terri's upper brain function was nil. The autopsy showed her brain had shrunk to a third of its original size, a process that takes years. She was dead long before her body stopped. There was no murder.
Pretty much every medical procedure is godless; it's a scientific process, not a religious one.
<quoted text>
Yes, I've seen a man dye that way, and it is horrible. His wife and daughter were feeding him jello, even though the sign on his bed said NO FOOD.

But cpeter -what's the difference in just not feeding those in the nursing homes, who don't even know their own names?
Gtown71

United States

#295673 May 12, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
Fetuses that are intentionally flushed out usually healthy and have beating hearts and are taking form. That seems quite different than a natural abortion where a fetus isn't implanting right or is not thriving.
One would think this was common sense, but as elise put it, they don't like being bothered with facts, and use their own education system :(
rosesz

Dublin, Ireland

#295674 May 12, 2013
Ink wrote:
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Aren't you rushing to judgement?
Oh I already plead GUILTY to judging these guys..based on what we know.... HIM and Gosnell..But I am hoping the justice system takes care of of them. GOD is the ultimate judge and as far as eternity goes my opinion does not count one bit for sure.

If you are referring to the brothers..well That does remain to be seen but one can only guess that they were in that house sometimes in 10 years..and saw starving pregnant women at some point..it's not like this guy was some rock star with willing groupies. If I had to guess I'd say he shared them to keep the bros quiet or maybe there was one for each.BUT THAT IS ONlY A GUESS

But the girls are talking..So we shall see.

Never said I was perfect lol
rosesz

Dublin, Ireland

#295675 May 12, 2013
elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text>I don't doubt that she does love God. Too bad she isn't a happier person, though:-\
Happy Mother's Day to you, friend.
Well have to say..Sure didn't go hungry. Lol..12 of us with kids and grandkids.( sons family and his wife's)''Big brunch at very historic spot.Very nice..

Hubby been very nice past week..so got him his Jack Reacher movie ( we never buy movies)'So he's happy and I can play on kindle:)

He tried to drag me at Christmas but neither one of up to sitting so long in theatre..so I guess it just came on pay per view..5 months..very turn around????? No idea..And cheaper than going to boot!!!

Anyway nice day.. thank God..

HOPE yours was as well:)
razzmatazz

Falls City, NE

#295676 May 12, 2013
rosesz wrote:
<quoted text>
RAZZ..even Pope Paul acknowledged the faith of Protestants. We believe in God..not a Church..And not gonna get started on that again.
Do you realize that you contradicted what you said ..We are,forgiven as we forgive..But you are so mad at the people on here it cones across unforgiving. Please read what you said.
I think Most of the people here are sincere in wanting to help women.
I personally do not agree that whole scale abortion in the end will do this. I think abortion is a poor choice for a woman and I believe many women suffer later for it. Esp when they see ultrasounds and feel their babies move..later in life. We know God can heal their pain..
But sorry to say attacking sincere people because you don't agree is not the way yo express belief in a MERCIFUL Lord. Condemning a woman who has aborted which I saw someone do a couple of years ago..is also not the way to go.It can make people turn on God......
.Only my opinion..Take it for what it's worth.Peace
Sincere? These people promote the slaughter of the unborn. A demonic act. Eww , you are either Ladi or pupc. Rosessz didn't type as well as you do.
rosesz

Dublin, Ireland

#295677 May 12, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>Only you would take what I said that way.
Freak.
And no - but it would be nice, if there were more effort to actually reduce the risks of pregnancy, rather than reducing access to the legal medical procedure which allows women to avoid those risks...since if pregnancy wasn't such a risky endeavor, even in one of the most 'medically advanced' countries in the world, there might be more women willing to take it on.
Hope your day is ok as can be

On your post..do you really think a great percentage get abortions because of the risk..I know as regards to me.. I just wanted the problem to not be there..It was a really awful time and I imagine the risks were greater then. But risk was not on my radar until the end

One thing I will always be grateful for..they gave me a combo.. I was evidently awake ..But don't remember a thing. Nada..water broke..came in..woke up as far as I remember. Then they put me on a gun ward..It was as MERCIFUL as possible..so except for the ride to the hospital I wasn't afraid..Thank God..Think it was scopalomine..They even had me use a phony name..Luckily I didn't get a Scarlet Letter!!!

And today I had brunch so with that baby boy..

Guess that forms a lot of my opinions on here.

SERIOUSLY again hope you are well. GOD BLESS.
rosesz

Dublin, Ireland

#295678 May 12, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>
The Maternal Health Accountability Act of 2011.
It's more dangerous to give birth in the United States than in 49 other countries. African-American women are at almost four times greater risk than Caucasian women. A safe pregnancy is a human right for every woman regardless of race or income.
The Maternal Health Accountability Act of 2011 would establish accountability, fight maternal health disparities, and combat severe maternal complications. Urge your representative to co-sponsor the bill!
Take Action!
http://www.amnestyusa.org/our-work/campaigns/...
(So many people had your apathetic attitude toward maternal mortality in the US, that the act wasn't even considered for debate on the floor of the Senate in 2011, and was tabled indefinitely in 2013.)
<quoted text>
I had an abortion for fear of death. So yes, I think it happens. Certainly more often than you seem to think it does.
I know no one will like this..But I find this appalling.(though I already gave my opinion on congressional effectiveness on things thereafter every day working people Ie Tax return fraud) but I have no idea why they would not even take it up.
IF THIS STORY IS TRUE:
This part no one will like is this..the Senate has a democratic majority..This is supposedly the party championing women's rights. IT definitely supports abortion rights..And its sad SINCE THEY HAVE CONTROL of what goes to committees and then the floor. That a measure for actual safety in pregnancy didn't!!!
I'm not sayin any of those politicos are that great..As a whole they aren't..BUT the majority controls at the very least the discussion!

Another sign if what is considered important enough in this society..with our medical knowledge..That we are so much below others.
DISGRACEFUL..
POLITICOS are mostly disgraceful anyway. IMHO

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#295679 May 12, 2013
What is it your jesus said? When you marry, you leave your parents and cleave to your spouse? Legal marriag spells it out--the spouse becomes the primary kin and makes medical decisions when they cannot. Her parents were delusional concerning her condition.

Medically speaking, there is no difference between a respirator and a feeding tube--both are extraordinary measures for prolonging ife. When a dx of brain death (or PVS) is made, the guardian has every right to remove such measures.

You have no idea what he was thinking; you make assumptions based on your distaste for the situation. Having been through it, I can tell you it's not what you seem to think. Keep in mind that she would have slipped away YEARS earlier without the parents' legal maneuvering without ANY positive change in her condition.
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm sorry, but I was under the impression, that when a persons heart beat on it's own, and they breathed on their own, and all YOUR job was, was to feed them, and you stopped feeding them, they starved to death?
How many do you know in nursing homes that don't even know they are there, yet they are fed and cared for?
Plus her own mother and father wanted her alive, hubby had moved on, so why not give her back to her parents, or do you feel when YOU think it is time to pull the plug on folks, it should be done?
She lived untill they stopped feeding her, then layed there till she died many days later??? Perhaps you can educate me on what took place?
Slippery slope. That guy didn't care one bit, and even had her creamated, if I remember right AGAINST her parents will.
I pray you never have that kind of son in law.
Cpeter seems to think the parents were the problem, could it be they loved their little girl?
Has any other came out of acoma after being told they wouldn't ?
Katie

Tacoma, WA

#295680 May 12, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm sorry, but I was under the impression, that when a persons heart beat on it's own, and they breathed on their own, and all YOUR job was, was to feed them, and you stopped feeding them, they starved to death?
How many do you know in nursing homes that don't even know they are there, yet they are fed and cared for?
Plus her own mother and father wanted her alive, hubby had moved on, so why not give her back to her parents, or do you feel when YOU think it is time to pull the plug on folks, it should be done?
She lived untill they stopped feeding her, then layed there till she died many days later??? Perhaps you can educate me on what took place?
Slippery slope. That guy didn't care one bit, and even had her creamated, if I remember right AGAINST her parents will.
I pray you never have that kind of son in law.
Cpeter seems to think the parents were the problem, could it be they loved their little girl?
Has any other came out of acoma after being told they wouldn't ?
Educate yourself on the legalities you would have to ignore in order to see your wishes come true.

Give her back to her parents? Was she a little plastic dolly??

Terri Schiavo's husband loved her. Loved her through and through, even after her brain liquefied. He fought hardest for her wishes to be carried out. Her wishes, as an adult married woman. He showed respect to her even as the spark that made Terri, Terri, had dimmed.

Her parents made her a paycheck.

But, then, the Schindlers had a lot of help from the PLM. The same PLM, the very same people (Father Pavone and Randall Terry), who offered enough money to NM (Roe) who chose to leave her lover when her lover needed her most.

What kind of organization, proclaiming to be Christian no less, does that?! And why would you so willingly believe their blatant deceit?

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#295681 May 12, 2013
Because they aren't brain-dead. There's a medical definition of brain-death/irreversible coma/PVS that doesn't apply to dementia. Not to mention that most patients with demenia feed themselves, with or without assistance.
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, I've seen a man dye that way, and it is horrible. His wife and daughter were feeding him jello, even though the sign on his bed said NO FOOD.
But cpeter -what's the difference in just not feeding those in the nursing homes, who don't even know their own names?
rosesz

Pompano Beach, FL

#295682 May 12, 2013
razzmatazz wrote:
<quoted text>Sincere? These people promote the slaughter of the unborn. A demonic act. Eww , you are either Ladi or pupc. Rosessz didn't type as well as you do.
RAZZ. I AM ROSE. REALLY..
WHY would I use the name..Who cares.

Anyway they are sincere in trying to help women. I think it's wrong but this is a forum.

As for the typing. I TRY VERY HARD. But lol. Have you read some of my posts. But thanks for seeing an improvement

GOD BLESS and hope you have a good Mothers Day
Gtown71

United States

#295683 May 12, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Because they aren't brain-dead. There's a medical definition of brain-death/irreversible coma/PVS that doesn't apply to dementia. Not to mention that most patients with demenia feed themselves, with or without assistance.
<quoted text>
Yes, you're correct about leaving your parents and the two becomming one flesh, but why did he also push sooo hard to have her feeding tube removed? He prob did love her, but he had moved on with another woman. Her parents loved her, and wanted what they could get. Not to mention what he choose to do with her remains, which was as well against her parents wishes.

The guy had more of a motive, then carring out his dead wifes wishes.

Many hubbies want their wife dead, before they move on.

True, I don't know his motives "heart", but again her heart was beating on its own, she breathed on her own. She may have been braindead, but we have homes filled with these type of folks, but they still get fed.

Most the info I have, is from a sermon I heard Dr. Phil Kidd from ms preach. He can be found on the net, and yes he is a very contraversal preacher. I believe this was one, in his "Angels of Death " cd.

You should read how he got saved.

I know it cannot be an easy decision to pull the plug, but I will inverstigate it another way. Something don't add up.

I think had she been black, and he white, the.naacp, jessie jack, al not so sharpton, and others would have been all over that thing. Also found in Kidds cd :) if you're interested. You've never heard any preacher like this guy.
He has an awsome testimony.
Gtown71

United States

#295684 May 12, 2013
Katie wrote:
<quoted text>
Educate yourself on the legalities you would have to ignore in order to see your wishes come true.
Give her back to her parents? Was she a little plastic dolly??
Terri Schiavo's husband loved her. Loved her through and through, even after her brain liquefied. He fought hardest for her wishes to be carried out. Her wishes, as an adult married woman. He showed respect to her even as the spark that made Terri, Terri, had dimmed.
Her parents made her a paycheck.
But, then, the Schindlers had a lot of help from the PLM. The same PLM, the very same people (Father Pavone and Randall Terry), who offered enough money to NM (Roe) who chose to leave her lover when her lover needed her most.
What kind of organization, proclaiming to be Christian no less, does that?! And why would you so willingly believe their blatant deceit?
Well, it seems it's a toss up. From the websight I read terries hubby, was a jerk from day one, wanting her to die, and he may have been the reason she was in her condition becouse he choked her almost to death??

She had eating disorder, becouse he told her he would divorce her, if she got fat.

He had All help and rehab stopped.
He clearly wanted her dead long before. She even went 6 days of starvation and dyhrdration, before gov. Bush ordered tube put back in.

Her family wanted her alive, her hubby wanted her dead.

Lots and lots of money to be made.

I see this case no different then that of abortion, you either respect human life or you do not.

Many want to "play" a God, they don't even believe in.
This is far worse then assisted suicide, it was a clear case of first degree murder, and will one day be judged as such.

Perhaps not on earth, but the Highest of courts.
Gtown71

United States

#295685 May 12, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Because they aren't brain-dead. There's a medical definition of brain-death/irreversible coma/PVS that doesn't apply to dementia. Not to mention that most patients with demenia feed themselves, with or without assistance.
<quoted text>
After living ON HER OWN POWER for many years, only needing to be feed, kinda like babies, and many many many others, she was put in hospice -why?

Folks don't get put into hospice unless doc feels they have less then 6 months in most cases.

Her hubby stopped all help, and wanted her dead. It seems both sides have came out ok, with book deals.
I still feel it is like abortion.

You have respect for human life, or you don't.
rosesz

Pompano Beach, FL

#295686 May 12, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Because they aren't brain-dead. There's a medical definition of brain-death/irreversible coma/PVS that doesn't apply to dementia. Not to mention that most patients with demenia feed themselves, with or without assistance.
<quoted text>
If she was truly brain dead..she would have been on a ventilator some point. No question as she wouldn't have the function to breathe.
The thing is..if she,was so damaged she probably had been on one..at first..And taken off. IF THAT WAS THE CASE..sounds like she was breathing on her own..so still had some brain function.

I am all for no heroics..But starving to death for a week..sounds cruel to me.

Don't know what the financials were..Think there was money involved for him..some settlement rings a bell...And he had to use it for her while she lived.(not sure on this at all)

Anyway..if it was not for monetary reasons..he could have just divorced her in order to move on and make a deal parents or organizations for life would pay for her care..he could then have gotten married.

In other words wash his hands of her and any money if there was some.
And leave it to those who.wanted her to live.

Just a thought

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