Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

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Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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All your posts are about you.
Pro-choice means supporting a woman's right to make her own choice regarding her own uterus and pregnancy, based upon he own circumstances and moral code, and without interference from those who think they know better than she does what she should do.
In the same way that I support your right to free speech, but don't necessarily agree with what you say, I can support a woman's right to make her own reproductive choice without agreeing with whichever choice she eventually makes. And there IS another choice, a fact you people love to ignore. We know that it's not UP to us which choice she makes. It's quite simply none of our business.
Yet there are those who contend that people should not hurt themselves. That people who are mentally unstable should receive help. It has been speculated by scientists, that preganant women going for an abortion are suffering from a form of temporary insanity,or a type of panic attack. The abortionists use this as a way to take advantage of vulnerable womnen and give them an abortion. Medicine should help these women to understand that being pregnant is natural and not fear it. Preganancy is part of a woman's life. The idea that unborn children are easily disposable "mistakes" is indeed a form of insanity.
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"Let's make it VERY clear then Gtown. I'm Jewish. Your jesus means shit to the Jewish faith. He's a non-entity, meaningless. Certainly NOT G-d."

Bullshit! Every jew I have spoken to claims Jesus is seen as a jewish prophet but not the Messiah. Your hippie-dippie fake jewish faith that marries women together, is what has no relevancy to real jews.
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"Let's make it VERY clear then Gtown. I'm Jewish. Your jesus means shit to the Jewish faith. He's a non-entity, meaningless. Certainly NOT G-d."
Bullshit! Every jew I have spoken to claims Jesus is seen as a jewish prophet but not the Messiah. Your hippie-dippie fake jewish faith that marries women together, is what has no relevancy to real jews.
Oh dear Lord...
I was going to totally stay out of this one..but
In my understanding of MY faith which you claim to share maybe ..not sure but anyway..

I believe in the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob..the same God of tgd Jewish people. God told Abraham that He would bless those who bless them and curse those who curse them ..
I also believe that that Jesus/yeshua is the Messiah of the prophets. The Jewish people do not believe this.

We will all know Him when we see Him come. Every knee shall bow at His coming..And we will know who He is.

To put down someone of the Jewish faith who believes in the God of Abraham on tge basis of faith is beneath any Christia nIMHO
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Btw..for what it is worth..there are some who THINK that the Angel of the Lord who came to see Abraham and foretold of Isaac birth..and who then went with His companions toward Sodom..The same one who bargained with Abraham for the lives of the righteous in Sodom..that this person was the entity known later as Jesus..

Interesting theory. We do believe that HE existed as a part of the Godhead before the beginning of time..so He certainly was around then

One of the mysteries we all may find out in the afterlife.

I think finding answers to the mysteries we cannot comprehend here will be one of the best things.

I do not state this as a tenet of my faith but it does seem possible.
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I have a hard time 'agreeing' that my 23 year old son's death 2 years ago was a 'good' thing, or that he's in a 'better' place than HERE.
With US.
I miss him so much, and don't 'know' that I'll ever see him again - all I know, is that he's not here.
I feel like a withered husk without him.
If I really thought there was a heaven, and that he was in it, I'd have killed myself two years ago to get there. I think about doing that every day - but I don't want my husband or my living son to miss me like they miss their Alex. It would hurt them.
So I stay.
My deepest condolences on the loss of your son. I'm sending my warmest thoughts and best wishes to you and your family.
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Point is we had no tools to help us. We managed. There were not these huge numbers of illegal abortions. The advent of the pill was supposed to be the equalizer..NOT this terminating our offspring ny the thousands.
As far as I'M concerned, contraception IS the equalizer, for women who DON'T want pregnancy or children. The problem is that NO contraceptive method is 100% guaranteed against unwanted pregnancy. ALL methods can and DO fail occasionally, even with proper and consistent use.

When a woman's BC fails and a pregnancy results, SHE is the only person who decides whether to continue the pregnancy or not. Whatever she decides, it is HER decision, and none of your business.
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I am glad to hear that Ocean. I think that is why it was started. And Part of my posts was asking..When I first heard of PP..I thought of it as a great thing for women..not as a place where offspring are terminated as it is now....Glad to hear that for you it was as it was started. See my lst post to Neo above this.
I know it wont happen but I think given the right circumstances..women would adapt and not be running in droves to illegal abortionists.. i give them much mord credit!!
And what YOU think is irrelevant, given the fact that NOT all women like or want children and never want to get pregnant if they can possibly avoid it. I don't want any MORE kids, so for me, getting pregnant again would be my worst nightmare. Thankfully, the odds of another pregnancy are slim to none. For me, PREGNANCY SUCKS, and I so love NOT being pregnant.

It's a really bad idea to FORCE women who never wanted pregnancy or children in the first place into staying pregnant, giving birth, and becoming mothers against their will. A woman has the same right NOT to have children as she does to be a mother.
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The way the law is now I cannot allow or disallow anything. BUT if it ever came to a vote..which it never will..I would not support it..Neither would ROE for that matter.
This is the reason why it never SHOULD come to a vote. Civil rights for men and women should never be subject to a vote.

That the right of women to decide for OURSELVES as individuals what to do about a pregnancy isn't up for a vote is a very GOOD thing.

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May I ask if you ever had a boss?
If so, were they married?
If so, was their marriage any of your business?
If you say no, then I would agree with you.
Now how much time have you spent using your voice to support your bosses marriage, and the fact that your bosses marriage was none of your business?
You see where I'm going with this?
to a point, you're right, a woman having an abortion or not is none of my business, but when the number of abortions being done reach well over 3,500 a day, each and every day, mon.- fri. In the country in which I live, then how can that not be some of my business as a citizen of this country?
If my post are about me I'm sorry, it is always my prayer -less of me and more of He.
You make abortion your business, do you not?
How many other things that is none of your business, do you spend sooo much effort on?
You defend a grown womans right to be able to legal have her unborn child killed.
Pro life, or whatever you wish to call us, defend the unborn child.
One "the woman " can defend herself with no problem.
The other "unborn child " cannot.
Master blaster wrote up a nice deal about how these parents allowed two of their children die, becouse they prayed, instead of seeking medical help, that the kids needed. What do you think about that? These were born older kids.
Should they be in trouble, or do you feel it is their business?
I think they are in trouble.
You're going nowhere with that comparison. It's stupid.

No one is trying to outlaw marriages for those who are already married.

The only pregnancy that would be any of your business, would be your own. Period. The numbers are irrelevant to that.

No, I do not make abortion my business. I make support of CHOICE my business. Whatever choice a woman ultimately makes is not my concern.

Your comparison about the kids the parents neglected is not apt. Your sentence "these were born older kids" says all that needs to be said. The keyword being "born". There is no comparison between a child who has civil rights AND is living an actual life, with experience, and the ability to feel pain and emotions, and an embryo/fetus of which NONE of those conditions apply.
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On your other point..I would think it sad if a woman regrets having a child or mistreated it....... But I had been speaking of women who Had abortions..In either case thd woman..having had the ultrasound would be more INFORMED
Yes, there are women who regret having an abortion. There are also women who DON'T regret it at all. They only regret GETTING pregnant in the first place, and they are just grateful the option of an abortion was available to them.

http://www.imnotsorry.net

http://www.thanksabortion.com

The women whose stories are posted at these sites certainly don't regret THEIR abortions. You might want to read some of them to understand what their personal situations were.

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<quoted text>I started grief counseling not long after he died, but didn't complete the process with the counselor. Not sure why, but I think it just got too hard to follow her assignments. I wasn't in a very good place at all, but she was very kind and mostly helpful. I'm thinking I might be ready to get back into it this summer.
I am very very lucky to have so many wonderful folks around me that love me - and who loved and adored my son as much as I did. He was pretty special, and he had a large crowd of friends. They've 'adopted' us, and a lot of them call me 'mom' now. The folks who love me are the reason I still get out of bed in the morning. And it is very helpful to talk about him with those who were so much a part of his life.
Again, thank you so much for your care and compassion. It's nice to know there are always good people in the world!!
Everyone handles grief differently. Mainly though, having people around that just listen is the best thing. xoxo

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One reason for an ultrasound is to help the doctor especially in later cases. Kind of like looking at an xray before setting a bone...I am sure you want that..... When it came up even some of the docs preferred it to doing a medical procedure blind..so to speak..and if that is the case..it would make it SAFER. If seeing an ultrasound made it Unsafer I would get your point. So while it is possible if a woman opened her eyes she could have second thoughts WHY is that a bad thing. You keep sayiing its her decision.. why do you care if a few change their minds and CHOOSE NOT to abort. THE docs are doing it safer and maybe Cya..and the women have truly informed consent.IF SHE CHOOSES TO LOOK.
On your other point..I would think it sad if a woman regrets having a child or mistreated it....... But I had been speaking of women who Had abortions..In either case thd woman..having had the ultrasound would be more INFORMED
Ultrasounds for medical purposes are for the DOCTOR'S need. It's only incidental that patients are given copies as keepsakes. If an ultrasound must be done for safety sake, it's for the DOCTOR only. Laws requiring the woman to look at it, or hear about it, or even for it to be done when not medically necessary are not "informing" anyone. They are attempts to manipulate the woman, period. That is wrong.

If she changes her mind due to that manipulation, HOW is that any different from the woman who has an abortion due to the manipulation of/pressure from her husband?

If it were a doctor shoving the ultrasound into her face and describing forcefully to the woman any abnormalities in order to manipulate her into HAVING an abortion, how would you feel about that? If it is wrong to attempt to persuade her to HAVE an abortion, it's just as wrong to attempt to persuade her to NOT have one.
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Really? You think being considered a villiage idiot is a compliment? You're MUCH stupider than I thought.
If you and aka represent the village, then yes it's a compliment :)
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G, I think you're throwing real evidence out the window in order to support religious myths. How do you explain the discoveries of skeletal remains that show there were earlier versions of humans that existed way before biblical times? Was Adam a hominid?
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/...
That would mean me and all other christians, some highly intellect are doing so, if that is what we are doing. It is not.

All according to who's dates you put your faith in.

Science has in the past said these fossils are this old, becouse we find them in this layer of earth, then they say this layer of earth is this old, becouse it has these fossils In it.

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That would mean me and all other christians, some highly intellect are doing so, if that is what we are doing. It is not.
All according to who's dates you put your faith in.
Science has in the past said these fossils are this old, becouse we find them in this layer of earth, then they say this layer of earth is this old, becouse it has these fossils In it.
"That would mean me and all other christians, some highly intellect are doing so, if that is what we are doing."

Not all other Christians, because not all Christians believe as you do.

"It is not."

Yes it is. That is exactly what you are doing, and other Christians as well. In an effort to promote their religion as fact, they ignore what they cannot twist to do so.
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You're going nowhere with that comparison. It's stupid.
No one is trying to outlaw marriages for those who are already married.
The only pregnancy that would be any of your business, would be your own. Period. The numbers are irrelevant to that.
No, I do not make abortion my business. I make support of CHOICE my business. Whatever choice a woman ultimately makes is not my concern.
Your comparison about the kids the parents neglected is not apt. Your sentence "these were born older kids" says all that needs to be said. The keyword being "born". There is no comparison between a child who has civil rights AND is living an actual life, with experience, and the ability to feel pain and emotions, and an embryo/fetus of which NONE of those conditions apply.
I don't care to talk about "when" a fetus can feel pain, and hate to think that's the divideing point.

I'm pretty sure a fetus can feel pain.
At what stage???

Just know that many people feel the unborn child should have rights, and does in some cases, if harmed, and mother intended to have the baby.
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"That would mean me and all other christians, some highly intellect are doing so, if that is what we are doing."
Not all other Christians, because not all Christians believe as you do.
"It is not."
Yes it is. That is exactly what you are doing, and other Christians as well. In an effort to promote their religion as fact, they ignore what they cannot twist to do so.
So you know of skeleton that all scientist agree on as being here before the bible says man should've been here?

I know of many, that have been exposed as frauds or explained.

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Bullshit! Every jew I have spoken to claims Jesus is seen as a jewish prophet
Bullshit yourself son LOL!!

Your jesus certainly was NOT considered a "Jewish prophet", since most everything he taught was AGAINST JEWISH SCRIPTURE you moron. Good lord man, use some common sense.

Jews that believe he lived at all (many dont) believe he may have been a teacher, but NOT a prophet. In FACT, he was considered a FALSE prophet.

http://judaism.about.com/od/judaismbasics/a/J...

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Oh dear Lord...
I was going to totally stay out of this one..but
In my understanding of MY faith which you claim to share maybe ..not sure but anyway..
I believe in the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob..the same God of tgd Jewish people. God told Abraham that He would bless those who bless them and curse those who curse them ..
I also believe that that Jesus/yeshua is the Messiah of the prophets. The Jewish people do not believe this.
We will all know Him when we see Him come. Every knee shall bow at His coming..And we will know who He is.
To put down someone of the Jewish faith who believes in the God of Abraham on tge basis of faith is beneath any Christia nIMHO
Thank you Rose. Many so called "christians" here, such as Gtown and Tomtom (who you just responded to), Knutter among others - consistantly demean Jews and anyone else of different faiths. I apologize to YOU and to other actual Christians if I come across as harsh, but having one's faith constantly demeaned and bastardized by these fools is ridiculous, PARTICULARLY when they whine that its done to them constantly.

I gave a link in my previous post you may find interesting.

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If you and aka represent the village, then yes it's a compliment :)
Thank you for confirming what a fool you are. LOL!

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