Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 313638 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#294051 Apr 28, 2013
IRYW wrote:
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Gummacher has some great statistics.
There are about 43 million women at-risk of unintended pregnancy in the USA. If their partners used condoms 100% of the time there would still be 6-1/2 million unintended pregnancies each year. The pill would drop that to about 3-1/2 million and the best IUDs would maybe drop it in the few hundred thousand.(That data is based on the known failure rate of condoms, the pill and IUDs). So even in your fantasy world of women using contraception 100% of the time there would be a demand for lots of abortions. The numbers will remain higher than the ideal because you cannot force women to take drugs or undergo implantation of foreign objects in their bodies. So, there is no known scenario where unintended pregnancies will not occur in significant numbers. Knowing this, how can you pretend that the demand for abortion will disappear if women all used contraception?
Another good point.

And not only that, some of these people go on and on about contraception, yet when you ask them women who use it properly yet still get pregnant, they will not answer whether or not they are fine with THOSE women having an abortion. And if not, then why bring up contraceptives? They ignore the questions, for the most part. In all this time I've maybe seen two anti-choice posters answer them.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#294052 Apr 28, 2013
<Sigh> "ABOUT women who...."
IRYW

Allentown, PA

#294053 Apr 28, 2013
rosesz wrote:
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If they stopped tomorrow....or a mandate when out that they would end in 6 months!!!
..I think the BC rate would go sky high within a year. IT would have to.......... The advent of the pill was supposed to be the equalizer..NOT this terminating our offspring ny the thousands.
According to Gummacher, 89% of women who are at risk of unintended pregnancy currently use contraception. What is 'sky high' to you?
IRYW

Allentown, PA

#294054 Apr 28, 2013
Bitner wrote:
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Another good point.
And not only that, some of these people go on and on about contraception, yet when you ask them women who use it properly yet still get pregnant, they will not answer whether or not they are fine with THOSE women having an abortion. And if not, then why bring up contraceptives? They ignore the questions, for the most part. In all this time I've maybe seen two anti-choice posters answer them.
I think that is my biggest frustration. I'm happy to hear someone else's viewpoint but to refuse to engage in a reasonable give and take is just proselytizing. And it is especially annoying when you refute a claim with data or logic and the denial continues as if nothing was said.
IRYW

Allentown, PA

#294055 Apr 28, 2013
Bitner wrote:
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Good point.
I don't think the Pro-death cult (my term for PL) truly understands how much they are the primary reason that abortions are so common in this country.
Gtown71

United States

#294056 Apr 28, 2013
rosesz wrote:
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Actually in my suggestion..lol I was talking a out the guy with the gun..not topix..you seem to know what God wants of you..so peace..and God bless you
Oh, I get the gun guy now. Lol
Yea I did imply the wiping of the feet with him, as far as me going back by there. Lol
I still pray for him :)
IRYW

Allentown, PA

#294057 Apr 28, 2013
Too much posting recently. Time for another break. Might be back in a few months; don't miss me too much......
rosesz

Pompano Beach, FL

#294058 Apr 28, 2013
IRYW wrote:
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I don't think the Pro-death cult (my term for PL) truly understands how much they are the primary reason that abortions are so common in this country.
Totally disagree for the reasons I already posted. IF there was no abortion on demand.. the rate of unplanned pregnancies would go down..women are just that smart. Society had adpted them and Men to the idea that if it happens get rid of it..their own offspring. It might take a year.but they would adapt. We did before and we would again. And men would have to become more responsible also..its called self preservation. And there are a lot more tools for it which I have stated before..The main one is WE KNOW A LOT MORE THAN WD DID BEFORE.

But elective abortion will not go away. That is not on me...its big business and a political tool.
so we have adapted to that.

As for give and take. I believe I have answered your posts ..you just dont agree with me. I cant help that one..peace
rosesz

Pompano Beach, FL

#294059 Apr 28, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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Oh, I get the gun guy now. Lol
Yea I did imply the wiping of the feet with him, as far as me going back by there. Lol
I still pray for him :)
Good thinking:) and praying.
rosesz

Pompano Beach, FL

#294060 Apr 28, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
Another good point.
And not only that, some of these people go on and on about contraception, yet when you ask them women who use it properly yet still get pregnant, they will not answer whether or not they are fine with THOSE women having an abortion. And if not, then why bring up contraceptives? They ignore the questions, for the most part. In all this time I've maybe seen two anti-choice posters answer them.
I do know it doesnt work ALL the time..But..it cant be as bad as the number of abortions suggest.

But no in this world. I do not think an abortion is the answer..AND let me reiterate again..I am not talkkng about emergencies when efforts to save mom and baby result in the death of the baby..or about dead bavyd in a uterus being removed..they should and have to be.

There are other options. I wish they were taken I Do Know that abortion is legal.
I posted what I think would happen if they stopped about an hour ago.
feces for jesus

Bellmore, NY

#294061 Apr 28, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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Why do you?
You don't like how God saved me -take it up with Him.
You're sooo arogant your name is feces for Jesus, as you know He is nothing???
All I can do is say Father forgive them for they truly know NOT what they do!!!
Here is the song feces for jesus. Check it out; you might like it.



Continue on with your arrogant, empty judgments and unprovable claims.
rosesz

Pompano Beach, FL

#294062 Apr 28, 2013
Maybe it is a generational thing as foo suggests...
But in my scenerio I yhink women are a lot smarter and stronged than they have been credited in this society. A lot of it is political.

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#294064 Apr 28, 2013
rosesz wrote:
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I do know it doesnt work ALL the time..But..it cant be as bad as the number of abortions suggest.
But no in this world. I do not think an abortion is the answer..AND let me reiterate again..I am not talkkng about emergencies when efforts to save mom and baby result in the death of the baby..or about dead bavyd in a uterus being removed..they should and have to be.
There are other options. I wish they were taken I Do Know that abortion is legal.
I posted what I think would happen if they stopped about an hour ago.
I disagree, for two reasons:

One, the failure rate of contraception is still high enough to result in unintended pregnancies, whether or not abortion is legal. As another poster recently pointed out, nearly three and a half million pregnancies a year would still be the unintended result, if ALL sexually active American women used contraception, a hundred percent of the time.

And two, the reason you believe the abortion rate was so low, back in the fifties and sixties, is that the illegality of the procedure kept women QUIET about their abortions. There were just as many going on back then - but the numbers weren't published anywhere, and doctors would have gone to jail in droves if they had been. Not all abortionists were quacks - many many women were able to convince their family physicians to do an abortion for them, especially if they had large families already. They just didn't talk about it afterward.

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#294065 Apr 28, 2013
rosesz wrote:
Maybe it is a generational thing as foo suggests...
But in my scenerio I yhink women are a lot smarter and stronged than they have been credited in this society. A lot of it is political.
Women don't get abortions for political reasons. The reason it's still legal, however, even though so many politicians claim to be in favor of criminalizing it again, is intensely political - it garners votes for those who say they want it outlawed, but to actually vote to criminalize it, would lose them votes in even greater numbers. They don't want to lose those cushy jobs, with all those terrific perks, and have to go back to the private sector, until they're darn good and ready to be lobbyists.

And thank-you for the kind words earlier, Rose. I appreciate your thoughtfulness. Yesterday was the two-year anniversary of his passing, and it was very difficult, but I'm feeling a bit better today.
Thanks again.

;)

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#294066 Apr 28, 2013
The Prince wrote:
To the other real Christians, what have you learned on this thread.
Seriously Tommy, WTF would YOU know about what a "real christian" is? Seriously, if you think YOU exemplify "real christians", then that's a real serious indication of how far your version of "faith" has sunk.
Does human life begin at conception?
Depends on what version of faith the person is you're talking to. As a Jew, no it does not. Scientifically, human life begins BEFORE conception. Its a stupid question when asked by someone like you who will ONLY accpet your religious version of faith's answer as the "right" one.

When asking from a religous POV, there IS no "right answer" outside of the faith being asked.
Do you support the slaughter of millions of unborn children in abortionariums?
A) there's no such thing as "abortionariums". STupid shit made up word.

B) children are not slaughtered ANYWHERE in the US.
Can someone be for the choice of abortion but against the abortion?
Yes.

I've deleted your bullshit regarding sexuality since it only spotlights your ignorance and isn't worthy of time or bandwidth.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#294067 Apr 28, 2013
The Prince wrote:
To aceept abortion is to support it!
Oh bullshit Tomtom. Nobody cares WHAT you "accept" OR support. If you're not having one, its simply none of your damn business.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#294068 Apr 28, 2013
rosesz wrote:
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Totally disagree for the reasons I already posted. IF there was no abortion on demand.. the rate of unplanned pregnancies would go down..women are just that smart. Society had adpted them and Men to the idea that if it happens get rid of it..their own offspring. It might take a year.but they would adapt. We did before and we would again. And men would have to become more responsible also..its called self preservation. And there are a lot more tools for it which I have stated before..The main one is WE KNOW A LOT MORE THAN WD DID BEFORE.
But elective abortion will not go away. That is not on me...its big business and a political tool.
so we have adapted to that.
As for give and take. I believe I have answered your posts ..you just dont agree with me. I cant help that one..peace
You're speculating without basis. In fact, the situations in developed countries where abortion is absolutely illegal prove you wrong. They have just as many abortions in those countries as we do, they're just illegal and not as safe. And in those countries with fewer laws than ours, there tend to be fewer abortions as well.

Did you know that in Canada, which has no restrictions on abortion, only slightly over 64,000 were performed during the latest recorded year? In fact, since 1969, there have been less than 4 million abortions performed in the entire country.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#294069 Apr 28, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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Who would you suggest I seek, since I already know it all?:)
If the word Hell bothers you, then how about "they were cast into outer darkness, where there is wailing and nashing of teeth?" Is that better?
What is sooo bad about a guy telling others how his life waw changed by God?
How he cheated on hiw wife, lied, took advantage of others and was selfish, self centered, sob, yet now he loves his wife, and gives himself up for her. No.longer lies, cheats, or have evil thoughts toward others?
Quick to say I'm sorry "which I will say to you now " if I've offended you by being a jerk, or thinking higher of myself then I should.:)
Before God -I would never say that in a million years!!
I wouldn't care if I knew I was in the wrong -i would've blamed something or someone else.
What I've told you is true. I am only 1 of many many many people, who have had a life changing experience with God.
Please ask yourself why???
Why do you want nothing to do with God?
why do you feel you know soooo much about this man God /man Jesus, and Hate Him soooo much, that you drag His name through the mud with your post name alone?
Go to corinth ms topix, if you doubt my story. I've been posting it there for several years. Look up Gtown71 -for many post have been started on me alone.
I'm telling you this, at the risk of you or others comming there to bash me, and you and master blaster or doubting thomas would love eavh other, but I care not what happens to me, if it will help you come to know God.
I don't know it all, but one thing I do know, and that is God wants you to know that you know that you know, that YOU ARE SAVED "BORN AGAIN, HEAVEN BOUND" SAVED :)
You dont know shit Gtown. You're a sanctimonious blowhard who ignores everything you dont like to hear.

Here's the FACTS - you dont know SHIT about where you stand with your g-d. You BELIEVE, but you have not one iota of proof. That's why they call it FAITH. ANd that's okay for you, but dont expect others to buy into your bullshit, PARTICULARLY when your jesus means less than nothing to them.

Your continual harassing and phony preaching here is a joke, nothing more, nothing less - and serves NO purpose but to turn people AWAY from you and your message.

Those are FACTS.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#294070 Apr 28, 2013
rosesz wrote:
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I do know it doesnt work ALL the time..But..it cant be as bad as the number of abortions suggest.
But no in this world. I do not think an abortion is the answer..AND let me reiterate again..I am not talkkng about emergencies when efforts to save mom and baby result in the death of the baby..or about dead bavyd in a uterus being removed..they should and have to be.
There are other options. I wish they were taken I Do Know that abortion is legal.
I posted what I think would happen if they stopped about an hour ago.
And I explained in my prior post why you are wrong.

Still, why bring up the fact that women are not using contraceptives properly, if you're not agreeing that those who do and get pregnant anyway should be allowed to have an abortion?

“GO BLACKHAWKS!!”

Since: Dec 07

Home of Lord Stanley!

#294072 Apr 28, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>I have a hard time 'agreeing' that my 23 year old son's death 2 years ago was a 'good' thing, or that he's in a 'better' place than HERE.
With US.
I miss him so much, and don't 'know' that I'll ever see him again - all I know, is that he's not here.
I feel like a withered husk without him.
If I really thought there was a heaven, and that he was in it, I'd have killed myself two years ago to get there. I think about doing that every day - but I don't want my husband or my living son to miss me like they miss their Alex. It would hurt them.
So I stay.
As a mother, my heart aches for you on your loss. I cannot begin to imagine your pain. Many hugs to you.

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