Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 20 comments on the Jan 22, 2008, Newsday story titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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rosesz

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#293821 Apr 26, 2013
Katie wrote:
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The way to avoid any of that happening is allowing individuals to determine their own outcomes. If they choose to reject or accept pregnancy should not be a matter for the catholic community, the religious community, or the gov't or doctors.
Roe v Wade keeps the control in the
hand of the person who is most affected; the pregnant woman. And that is how it should be. Otherwise, someone else is making her decision for her.
To repeat something in my last post..the Chinese have great population control..the next step IS FORCED abortion..killing off tge old getting rid of tge handicapped etc

It is a slippery slope that we have been on since Roe.
rosesz

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#293822 Apr 26, 2013
The Prince wrote:
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All of that you wrote is interesting but at the end of the day you are still proabortion and like to have sex in your but. That says everytihng people need to know about your 'faith".
Just a request can we please talk serious and stop with the graphic sex barbs.....its rude and does nothing to speak for the God you profess. I know its easy to get upset here but please ..a bit of decorum..
Katie

Seattle, WA

#293823 Apr 26, 2013
rosesz wrote:
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Bitner..
I know legally they dont..but the post I answered was chilling in its reas.
AS for life expectancy..a long time ago it was a lot longer than now.
The Chinese today use population control to force abortions and have a one child policy.
As I say the poster and the argument creeped me out
First the unbirn. Then the old folks..Then its ags 60 ..50.........then its the handicapped and anyone else inconvenient.
Because of my own experience as a teen I can understand very well one woman in a dire position wanting a way out. Back then we had no birth control or knowledge.
I thank God there was no option..No roe..all was secret. Its a long story and I have told it beford. The thing is thru Gods mercy..I will get to spend mothers day with my son and his child. Even though I spent a lot of time heartbroken. I survivdd and so did he. Thank God.
But the point of my post is I can understand desperation..I abhor using or advancing abortion as population control..its like my eyes just popped open No wonder the PC environmentalist polititions..especially the ones who but carbon credits so others can conserve whike they use private jets DO NOTHING TO MAKS ABORTION RARE..
I wasn't speaking about population control.

I was speaking of the imbalance you wish to heap upon the citizens of this country. Bitner touched on it above.

None of these things you worry about -- "first the babies, then the old..." -- will be an issue if every single individual continues to make their individual medical decisions without interference by the gov't, the clergy, or nosy parkers who think they mean well.

Really, you might want to watch what you wish for... your fears could be met by self-fulfilling prophecy.
Katie

Seattle, WA

#293825 Apr 26, 2013
rosesz wrote:
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To repeat something in my last post..the Chinese have great population control..the next step IS FORCED abortion..killing off tge old getting rid of tge handicapped etc
It is a slippery slope that we have been on since Roe.
I speak more about the imbalance when abortion is criminalized. Medically, legally, personally. When women can't determine their own pregnancy's outcome based on somebody else's moralities. Or on what they think is best without even knowing all the circumstances involved.
rosesz

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#293826 Apr 26, 2013
Katie wrote:
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I wasn't speaking about population control.
I was speaking of the imbalance you wish to heap upon the citizens of this country. Bitner touched on it above.
None of these things you worry about -- "first the babies, then the old..." -- will be an issue if every single individual continues to make their individual medical decisions without interference by the gov't, the clergy, or nosy parkers who think they mean well.
Really, you might want to watch what you wish for... your fears could be met by self-fulfilling prophecy.
Sorry and respectfully..it was your pist stating that wighout abortion we could nof sustain ghe birthrate.

Of all tbd arguments for abortion..that shocked me the most.

As I say..no wonded the pols do noghing to make it more rare..and it smacks of the Sanger mindset on eugenics. Most of the posts here are bemoaning it as a boon for poir people. YETmany who could easily affird childre ard also aborting right and left.

Agajn sorry but you shocked me. Fhis is human life we are discussjng.
rosesz

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#293827 Apr 26, 2013
Pardon the mispellings worse than usual..havs to get a grip..but this device doesnt help. I see my finger hit the correct keys but like all my h s come out as g s. And it skips letters. Plus I am a bad typist..and this keyboard is sensitive and then rewrites words. Wish I could gef an IPad. But I woulx probably still mess up. Thanks for your patience all.
Katie

Seattle, WA

#293828 Apr 26, 2013
rosesz wrote:
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Sorry and respectfully..it was your pist stating that wighout abortion we could nof sustain ghe birthrate.
Of all tbd arguments for abortion..that shocked me the most.
As I say..no wonded the pols do noghing to make it more rare..and it smacks of the Sanger mindset on eugenics. Most of the posts here are bemoaning it as a boon for poir people. YETmany who could easily affird childre ard also aborting right and left.
Agajn sorry but you shocked me. Fhis is human life we are discussjng.
Yes, we are discussing human life. Fetal human life. Wrapped around the fetal life is a girl/woman who is actually living. Her life has value. And she's the boss. What she says goes. Any other way is controlled by another entity. Like when the Comstock Law was in effect.

Eugenics was *the new thing* in its time. It was discussed, studied, and exercised by many people in several countries. For the most part, though, it was abandoned after WWII. To say eugenics violated human rights is an understatement, imo.

But here's a little tidbit for you regarding that self-fulfilling prophecy I mentioned earlier. Eugenics was used on "loose women", too. "The way eugenics was practiced in this period involved "interventions", which is a euphemistic name for the identification and classification of individuals and their families, including the poor, mentally ill, blind, deaf, developmentally disabled, promiscuous women, homosexuals and entire racial groups — such as the Roma and Jews — as "degenerate" or "unfit"; the segregation or institutionalisation of such individuals and groups, their sterilization, euthanasia, and in the case of Nazi Germany, their mass extermination.[7] The practice of euthanasia was carried out on hospital patients in the Aktion T4 at such centres as Hartheim Castle." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics

I read that a few times and definitely see a similarity there regarding the "moral" push to criminalize abortion again.

See, your attitude toward your own gender doesn't shock me, it just saddens me to realize there are women who can't or won't see what kind of future will be left to their daughters, granddaughters, nieces, etc. And that scares me.

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#293829 Apr 26, 2013
elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text> The man is a sick, unethical bastard and deserves the harshest sentence possible. I doubt that the case meets the criteria for a death penalty. I have no idea what Susanm's point was in her comment to me. Misplaced sarcasm, I guess.
Last I read 3 of the charges of murder have been thrown out. There is seldom a point to anything she posts except to be a smartass. Just throw it back in her face and make her look stupid.
Katie

Seattle, WA

#293830 Apr 26, 2013
rosesz wrote:
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Sorry and respectfully..it was your pist stating that wighout abortion we could nof sustain ghe birthrate.
Of all tbd arguments for abortion..that shocked me the most.
As I say..no wonded the pols do noghing to make it more rare..and it smacks of the Sanger mindset on eugenics. Most of the posts here are bemoaning it as a boon for poir people. YETmany who could easily affird childre ard also aborting right and left.
Agajn sorry but you shocked me. Fhis is human life we are discussjng.
One more thing --

You say, "YETmany who could easily affird childre ard also aborting right and left."

Reality shows the abortion rate has dropped 5% for the last reporting period of 2009.

You say, "no wonded the pols do noghing to make it more rare..and it smacks of the Sanger mindset on eugenics."

Reality shows that one of the factors slowing the rate of abortion down is the Morning After Pill becoming available over the counter.

You say, "it was your pist stating that wighout abortion we could nof sustain ghe birthrate."

I ask, "Where are the resources to provide for these people going to come from? Who is going to love this child and raise this child to be a productive member of society? How will this child excel and meet his potential in the land of free if even his basic needs aren't met on a daily basis?" I talk about balance, you talk about control.

Maybe it's your slip showing.

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#293831 Apr 26, 2013
Susanm wrote:
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1)The complaints wouldn't have gone to the governor.
2)Casey didn't stop the inspections of abortion "clinics".
1. Yes they would have.
2. Caseys administration did inspect and ignore the conditions.
The department had contact with the Women’s Medical Society dating back to 1979, when it first issued approval to open an abortion clinic. It did not conduct another site review until 1989, ten years later.
Numerous violations were already apparent, but Gosnell got a pass when he promised to fix them. Site reviews in 1992 and 1993 also noted various violations, but again failed to ensure they were corrected.
But at least the department had been doing something up to that point, however ineffectual.
Abortion rates go down when there is a pro choice administration. You want to see lesser abortions don't you?
rosesz

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#293832 Apr 26, 2013
Way back when..before aroe contraception and personal responsibility was touted as the means to get to the Zpg goal. ZERO POULATION GROWTH. It was also seen as the great equalizer fir us womdn. I am all for equality of the sexes..and have been for a long time. BETTER pay for women was something that was a mantra in my home. I think Pp was a great thing for women when its main job was teaching and providing CONTRACEPTION. It may still do tgat but it is a great abortion provider and as a business it is not in the business if cutting down its future business in the ways I suggested before.

Since I was the bread winner for a good part of My daughters life ..i made sure she went to college and became a professional. So please do not think I have little regard for those of my own sex. The thing is womens lib should not be measured by access to do away with her offspring but by a womans value to herself..her career her children her husband and if she believes to her God. Like it or not our bodies are made in a way that we are the ones who carry children. If we do not want to have them we should do anything we can with all that is Now available not to get pregnant.

I empathize with any woman with an unplanned pregnancy..more than you can possibly know..but my rights should not trump my childs that I concieved.

Since this is NOT the law..everything should be done to lower tge number of abortions..and IMHO..not viewing it as a way to sustain a lower birth rate is a start.
rosesz

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#293833 Apr 26, 2013
ps if the abortion rate is down and if this morning after pill is not an abortifacient..good.
rosesz

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#293834 Apr 26, 2013
Caio and have a good nights sleep
Gods blessings on all

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#293835 Apr 26, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>Hey Sue! Didja ever stop to consider that THE GRAND JURY WON'T INDICT an abortionist ON LEGAL ABORTIONS????
Why would the Grand Jury mention Gosnell's LEGAL ACTIVITIES in an indictment, hon???
Because he wasn't doing LEGAL abortions, hon.

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#293836 Apr 26, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Right. As medical professionals, they weren't about to make suppositions about mongar. Nor were they going to report procedural problems or health code violations to the authorities because that's not their policy or purpose.
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Like I said, the NAF is just a "good old boy" orgnization for abortionists.
The Prince

Phillipsburg, NJ

#293837 Apr 26, 2013
rosesz wrote:
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Just a request can we please talk serious and stop with the graphic sex barbs.....its rude and does nothing to speak for the God you profess. I know its easy to get upset here but please ..a bit of decorum..
I did not realize that you feel God is willing to negotiate his teachings with proabortion pagans. If you want to, that is your choice. You will learn like the rest of those of the Faith, they will use you to promote their vile ways.

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#293838 Apr 26, 2013
AyakaNeo wrote:
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1. Yes they would have.
2. Caseys administration did inspect and ignore the conditions.
The department had contact with the Women’s Medical Society dating back to 1979, when it first issued approval to open an abortion clinic. It did not conduct another site review until 1989, ten years later.
Numerous violations were already apparent, but Gosnell got a pass when he promised to fix them. Site reviews in 1992 and 1993 also noted various violations, but again failed to ensure they were corrected.
But at least the department had been doing something up to that point, however ineffectual.
Abortion rates go down when there is a pro choice administration. You want to see lesser abortions don't you?
1) Why do you think that the complaints against Gosnell would find their way to the governor"s dest?

2) Ridge stopped the inspections for political reasons:

"But at least the department had been doing something up to that point, however
ineffectual. After 1993, even that pro forma effort came to an end. Not because of
administrative ennui, although there had been plenty. Instead, the Pennsylvania
Department of Health abruptly decided, for political reasons, to stop inspecting abortion
clinics at all. The politics in question were not anti-abortion, but pro. With the change of
administration from Governor Casey to Governor Ridge, officials concluded that
inspections would be “putting a barrier up to women” seeking abortions. Better to leave
clinics to do as they pleased, even though, as Gosnell proved, that meant both women and babies would pay."

http://www.phila.gov/districtattorney/PDFs/Gr...

Since: Jun 08

Atrisco Village

#293839 Apr 27, 2013
rosesz wrote:
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My rights are important to me..but when my right calls for me to end the life of my own child..another human..it is no longer my rights alone that are at stake.
What you believe and what you do about your own pregnancy is your business and you have the right to make your decision about it in privacy.

Since: Jun 08

Atrisco Village

#293840 Apr 27, 2013
rosesz wrote:
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Sacrificing 9 months so that the child you helped create can live is not losing your uterus. Its bekng a mother.
If a woman doesn't want to stay pregnant, she doesn't have to, despite what some person named rosesz thinks and feels. It's none of your business.

Since: Jun 08

Atrisco Village

#293841 Apr 27, 2013
Susanm wrote:
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"You can have the best info in the world and still screw up."
Especially when:
1) 76% of pill users and 49% of condom users report having used their method inconsistently,
2) Forty-six percent of women who have abortions had not used a contraceptive method during the month they became pregnant.
3) Eight percent of women who have abortions have never used a method of birth control
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induced_abo...
:
That's a shame and we should all work to improve those numbers. It still isn't your business what any woman decides to do about her own pregnancies.

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