Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Jan 22, 2008 Read more: Newsday 309,609
Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision. Read more

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#293212 Apr 24, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>But in reality, you have no clue either way.
Even in cases of coercion, the choice resides with the pregnant woman. She also has the choice to IGNORE or LEAVE the asshole insisting she abort, rather than terminate a wanted pregnancy. If the person threatens her, she has the choice to take out a restraining order against that person, and the choice to press assault charges. She is not FORCED to abort. She can't be. She's the one signing the paperwork.
LOL I should have read ahead.

Not like this isn't something that comes up constantly as if they think the answer will change if they keep bringing the same bullshit up.

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#293213 Apr 24, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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Both are choices that effect others lives.
Bullshit. The woman having an abortion today in New York city will NEVER affect you or anyone beyond her immediate circle in ANY way, shape or form. Period.

No matter how much they suppress their feelings, many come away with guilt and regret,
Again, you're full of shit.

You TRYING to IMPOSE guilt and regreat on women, doesn't mean they feel that way. In fact, MOST do not.

imnotsorry.net
It is still kinda sad, that there is no limit, you can't even kill full grown deer, or catch full grown fish at that rate. Sad.
WTF are you babbling about now?
rosesz

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#293214 Apr 24, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>But in reality, you have no clue either way.
Even in cases of coercion, the choice resides with the pregnant woman. She also has the choice to IGNORE or LEAVE the asshole insisting she abort, rather than terminate a wanted pregnancy. If the person threatens her, she has the choice to take out a restraining order against that person, and the choice to press assault charges. She is not FORCED to abort. She can't be. She's the one signing the paperwork.
And yet there are battered women. And young girls run by their pimps. Etc..they are victims. Not s lot of choice there..no sympathy for these women?

Legally they have a choice. But in reality their abusers can push them into getting rid od the proof of tape..prostitution. or just plain inconvenient babies..What a wonderful thing this is tor men who abuse women. And young girls..

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#293215 Apr 24, 2013
Ink wrote:
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Do you know how many women are killed by someone that they have a restraining order against?
@@ Percentage wise, not many actually. Less than 1 half of 1% of women that have restraining orders are murdered by the person the restraining order is against according to the Justice Department.

Your melodramatic bullshit aside, the POINT is that this has NOTHING to do with abortion. Period.

You're an IDIOT Inkstain.
Ink

Philadelphia, PA

#293216 Apr 24, 2013
Bitner wrote:
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You mean her embryo/fetus.
We've been through this before, Witless. Ignoring the answer just to ask the question again doesn't say much for your integrity.
Because the SCOTUS gave the states the right to see to their own interests after viability. They may place limits, so long as her health/life are not in danger, or there is something wrong with the fetus, in which case they CANNOT place limits on her choice.
By the way, not all states do so.
The only parties that have civil rights are the woman, and the state. Not the fetus.
Isn't the state acting in the interest of the fetus?

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#293217 Apr 24, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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I fully understand, my baby girl just turned 6, but she will always be my baby :)
But bit -roughly 3,500 girls and boys like yours and mine who get to live will die today, just one day in the usa. I don't see this as being overdramatic -I see this as a problem on an epic scale. Just follow the money. Most have a price. Even Hillary Clinton said abortion should be legal, safe, RARE.
Does the numbers ever just stagger you at all?
WHy would the numbers "stagger" anyone? There are OVER 4 MILLION births in a year. The number of abortions is down significantly, less than 300,000 in the last year there are records for. 286K to be close to exact. The percentage of births to abortions is what's staggering.

Mind your own damn business son. Not ONE of those abortions happening this year will affect YOU in ANY way. THAT is a fact.
rosesz

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#293218 Apr 24, 2013
Bitner wrote:
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Wrong. Approximately 3500 women will make a choice to end their pregnancies. And approximately three times as many will make the choice to CONTINUE their pregnancies.
No, the numbers don't stagger me, because I realize two things...
a)It's always a question of one woman making a choice for one pregnancy, and
b)It's none of my business.
I should care what Hillary Clinton says, why, exactly?


3500 in how much time. The CDC States 800 thou for 2008 . I tried to find an unbiased site. Found it on wikipedia..I know some sites slant.

“Truly Pro-Life”

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#293219 Apr 24, 2013
Ink wrote:
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Do you know how many women are killed by someone that they have a restraining order against?
Lots. Most of them, because they hung around mooning after the perp, and taking his calls for awhile, when they should have been relocating to another state and changing their number - or killing the sonofabitch before he could kill them.

Do you know how many holes there are in your ceiling tile?

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#293220 Apr 24, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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I have no ill will toward any man or woman. People may make the choices they will, but what's the difference?
We tell folks that like to drink "don't drive " "act responsible " "get a sober person to drive " and with all the world has to offer, from taxi cabs, sober friends, even some who volunteer to drive drunks around,there is no excuse for anyone to be driving while drunk, correct? If they do and they get caught, what happens? If they wreck and hurt or kill others, what happens? Not good, all day long this still goes on, and untill texting took the number 1 spot, it was booze related crashes. Should we stand up for the drunks, and say so what?? They mowed down a couple of kids on the way to the park -should they be punished, for a long time becouse of one little slip???
Same thing -with all this world has to offer, and please don't tell me how much they fail, if used properly, they work fine. Even cpeter addmits to having more encounters then I have had in.pills, yet clean as a whistle, becouse he practices safe sex.
The numbers alone should make anyone think "WHAT ARE WE DOING /ALLOWING "yet the human mind can't wrap itself around such a deal, so you must tell yourself, it is only one woman making a medical choice on their own.
Gtown, you're a MORON. STop trying to compare drunk driving with the personal, private medical decision to abort. A decision that does not and will not affect you in ANY way, shape or form.

“Truly Pro-Life”

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#293221 Apr 24, 2013
Ink wrote:
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Isn't the state acting in the interest of the fetus?
No.

The State is acting in the interests of the State.
Born children become taxpayers.
Fetuses will never pay taxes.

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#293222 Apr 24, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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Gosnnel to me truly seen no difference in killing small or large. He was a true abortionist and didn't play around. It wasn't like he forced those women to have the child, not knowing what he would do with the little screaming thing?!?!?
Again - you are a MORON.

You dont have a CLUE who Gosnell was, what he did or what the HELL you're talking about.

Do yourself a favor, STFU until you educate yourself.

Gosnell was a murderer who's in jail for his crimes and has ZERO to do with legal, safe clinics.

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#293223 Apr 24, 2013
rosesz wrote:
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3500 in how much time. The CDC States 800 thou for 2008 . I tried to find an unbiased site. Found it on wikipedia..I know some sites slant.
***sighs*** Do the math.

Not one of those "800 thou" @@ affected YOU in any way. Not one was any of your business.

Suck that shit up and deal with it.
Ink

Philadelphia, PA

#293224 Apr 24, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>When abortion is outlawed, the Gosnells of the world will be the only abortionists out there.
What a pro-life outcome THAT will be.
I'm sure you anticipate it with joy, and troughs of drool.
Next...
No it is women determined to have have their viable babies exterminated who keep people like Gosnell in business.

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#293225 Apr 24, 2013
Ink wrote:
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Isn't the state acting in the interest of the fetus?
No idiot. As has been explained to you LITERALLY dozens of times, its in the interest of the STATE - ie: future taxpayers.

Inkstain, dont you EVER tire of making yourself look like an ass?

“Blessed Be”

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#293226 Apr 24, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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Why is this a lie? It seems that over 3,500 women each and every day of the week mon -fri are getting that message, hardwired into their core, that they may conduct themselves are careless as they wish, and any "thing " that happens to inconvienice them will be dealt with, and as far as your other post -bit please, like I'm the grammer patrol. Now that's funny!:)
There must be a better way.
Gosnnel to me truly seen no difference in killing small or large. He was a true abortionist and didn't play around. It wasn't like he forced those women to have the child, not knowing what he would do with the little screaming thing?!?!?
It is a lie because that is not the message.

The point you people seem to miss about Gosnell is that he wasn't doing business legally, or with an eye for safety. That IS a difference that you guys don't want to acknowledge. And it's dishonest on your part.

And the fact is that if abortion were to be made illegal again, the abortions won't stop, and people like Gosnell will be the ONLY ones doing them. Without it being legal, no laws would even be in place to restrict any of it.

Pretend we're not talking about abortion for a minute. Would you really rather there be no healthcare codes, no restrictions on what someone may medically do, people practicing any kind of medicine without training or a license?
Ink

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#293227 Apr 24, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>No.
The State is acting in the interests of the State.
Born children become taxpayers.
Fetuses will never pay taxes.
What is the states interest in preventing a woman from aborting an unborn child?

“Blessed Be”

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#293228 Apr 24, 2013
Ink wrote:
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Isn't the state acting in the interest of the fetus?
No.
Katie

Seattle, WA

#293229 Apr 24, 2013
Ink wrote:
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No it is women determined to have have their viable babies exterminated who keep people like Gosnell in business.
Riiight, because some pregnant women seeking abortion don't have to face idiotic regulations and other nonsensical hurdles keeping them having a legal, safe abortion early on in their unwanted pregnancies.

Leave it to you to willingly, willfully, believe women seek to abort for the hell of it.
Gtown71

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#293230 Apr 24, 2013
Katie wrote:
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No, the number is neither staggering nor epic. There are almost 316 million people in America. Your number, roughly 3500, is what, roughly one percent, a tenth of a percent, of the total population?
Abortion rates have continued to decline, even during the recession when usually the numbers go up.
What's not a good thing is failing to recognize not every pregnancy is wanted or healthy. So much can go wrong during pregnancy, during labor and delivery. Women still die from childbirth. Women still get horrendously torn up during delivery. Yes, it still happens in America, but nobody's protesting it outside hospitals.
What matters is after babies are born. But that's the time most fundies walk away. They smile and pat themselves on the back for helping to provide diapers and used baby clothes... but sure scream and yell about welfare queens living on the dole spreading their legs to make more babies.
What a nice little double-standard, eh? Every baby born but to hell with what kind of life it will live.
I get it!!! I truly do!!! There is no easy answer. We are sinful people, we Will do sinful things. Someone must pay for our choices. I am not a woman, but is it normal to want the life inside you gone at any cost? It must mean the sex it took to produce it was just as empty as the womb post abortion /dnc??? I refer back to my first statement -we are sinners /we Will sin.
It doesn't fit in the evolution scale, but thanks be to God for grace and mercy, to all and any who wish to have it.

“Blessed Be”

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#293231 Apr 24, 2013
rosesz wrote:
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3500 in how much time. The CDC States 800 thou for 2008 . I tried to find an unbiased site. Found it on wikipedia..I know some sites slant.
A day. Yes, there are different figures out there. That figure he gave may be a little high. It really doesn't make any difference to my point, though.

It's still a matter of one woman making her own decision about one pregnancy, her own.

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