Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

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Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.
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Katie wrote:
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No I don't think that's okay. Nor do I think it's accurate. But you believe what you want because you will anyway.
No, there are women who have had abortions just for the fun of it.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12200...
So I guess we need abortion regulations, right?

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Nope, they're not sensational enough sadly.
Ummm......who's Jodi Arias?? And Lindsay Lohan.@@ Another Anna Nichole Smith, with less charisma.
Is there local coverage at least Sue? I've been trying to keep abreast of it just in the printed media.
"Jodi Arias"

She's the nutjob that killed her husband.

"Lindsay Lohan"

An actress who has been in and out of jail for the last several years.

"Is there local coverage at least Sue? I've been trying to keep abreast of it just in the printed media."

Very little in some of the local Philadelphia papers. It doesn't surprise me really, the news stations tend to be very liberal, they don't want any "bad" press about abortion.
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Ever heard of sarcasm dumbass? I was asking those questions because I knew your statement of the fetus being PART of a woman's BODY (aka body part) was nonsense. My sarcasm was to prove how your argument carries little weight. If someone kills a pregnant woman and her fetus, why is that considered a double homicide? Please explain of you can.


The fetus is not separate from the woman carrying it. It is part of her body as her body fulfills all requirements necessary to keep fetus alive. Woman dies, fetus usually dies. Woman drinks and drugs, fetus has withdrawals after delivery. Without the woman, there is no fetus. Until the scientists finalize their artificial womb. That day's getting closer, but a different topic altogether.

Not every state recognizes fetal homicide laws. These laws were designed to protect the women who'd lost their wanted pregnancies to a 3rd party. In the past, the lost fetus was not recognized in court and not compensated for if charges were brought up.

You see, women legally have civil rights to personal privacy and bodily autonomy. This allows them to accept or reject their pregnancies and determine their own futures from there.

When a 3rd party comes along and assaults or kills the woman and she loses her pregnancy or her fetus is injured, the courts in the past did not recognize this as a loss. Now they do. And the women or their family members left behind can seek compensation while the 3rd party can be tried and, hopefully, convicted for it.

Why don't you go back and read prior posts? These topics get repeated and cycled every few weeks, months, hell every few hours sometimes.

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Another proabortion pagn weighs in, what else is new? No doubt a lesbian as well. Most of you are.
Are you really this stupid, or do you just play stupid on a message board?
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No, there are women who have had abortions just for the fun of it.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12200...
So I guess we need abortion regulations, right?
Where are the other women?? She's one, an anomaly. We've discussed her beyond necessary. She, imo, is like a female version of Gosnell. Abhorrent.
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" Your state failed. Big time."
You're right, it did, Why? Because the pro"choice" govenor thought that it would be putting up a barrior for women.
"You can't in any way blame that on "pro'choice' folks"."
Why didn't The NATIONAL ABORTION FEDERATION report his a$$?
"Those enabling Gosnell are those who didn't do their jobs."
Yup, the Dept of Health, under the direction of the pro"choice" govenor, didn't conduct regular inspections, and the NAF saw what was going on AND DID NOTHING.
"Why didn't you respond to my first to you telling you to F off? Did it not show up?"
I ignored your tantrum.
I'm not having a tantrum. Usually when I tell people to F off, they listen. Not you, though. Guess you really like me after all.

I did like what Foo said about society failing those women and allowing Gosnell to continue to operate because he was located in the slums. I've observed inequality based only on poverty or lack thereof. What they say is true. Those with money get most things for free. Those without money pay through the nose for basics. It's ridiculous.

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I'm not having a tantrum. Usually when I tell people to F off, they listen. Not you, though. Guess you really like me after all.
I did like what Foo said about society failing those women and allowing Gosnell to continue to operate because he was located in the slums. I've observed inequality based only on poverty or lack thereof. What they say is true. Those with money get most things for free. Those without money pay through the nose for basics. It's ridiculous.
Those who care more about the abortion than they do human lives stop inspections and/or fail to report the dangerous conditions that they find.

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I'm not having a tantrum. Usually when I tell people to F off, they listen. Not you, though. Guess you really like me after all.
I did like what Foo said about society failing those women and allowing Gosnell to continue to operate because he was located in the slums. I've observed inequality based only on poverty or lack thereof. What they say is true. Those with money get most things for free. Those without money pay through the nose for basics. It's ridiculous.
"Usually when I tell people to F off, they listen. Not you, though. Guess you really like me after all."

I like pointing out your stupidity.
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Those who care more about the abortion than they do human lives stop inspections and/or fail to report the dangerous conditions that they find.
Would you say the same thing about those CPS workers whose "kids" were killed under their watch? That they cared more about "intact families" than innocent human lives?
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"Usually when I tell people to F off, they listen. Not you, though. Guess you really like me after all."
I like pointing out your stupidity.
Then the very least you could do is tell me why you're such a B*TCH to me. What did I ever do to you to bring this on?

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Would you say the same thing about those CPS workers whose "kids" were killed under their watch? That they cared more about "intact families" than innocent human lives?
If they neglected to inspect the homes and/or knew of dangerous conditions conditions, absolutely.

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If they neglected to inspect the homes and/or knew of dangerous conditions conditions, absolutely.
Should read:

If they neglected to inspect the homes and/or knew of dangerous conditions and did nothing, absolutely.
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If they neglected to inspect the homes and/or knew of dangerous conditions and did nothing, absolutely.
Understood it the first time. Too many stories of CPS wanting to preserve "intact families" only for the little one to get killed not long after. Or lost altogether in the system ... only years later to discover kid went missing from school, from the neighborhood, folks up and moved... and viola! Now childless.

A local story here highlighted how an aunt, who became guardian after her sister's death, had abused and neglected her niece horribly. CPS had been made aware, but said their hands were tied because the aunt moved or said she was changing schools or whatever excuse she used. It was disgusting. She poked needles into her niece's eyes. But CPS said their hands were tied. Just like those who shoulda been inspecting Gosnell have probably said.

I don't think you can rightly blame Gosnell's horrors on the abortion procedure or laws. I think it all comes down to someone not doing their job properly.
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I love how you act like homemakers/stay at home moms are "stuck" in the home. You like to degrade women in that way.
If women are truly stuck in the home because they are DENIED opportunities for college education and access to the trades and professions, it WAS degrading to women. Don't like my saying that? Too bad, sASSy, I'll say it all I want.

For you and the rest of the "christian" extremists who think that girls and women were well treated in past American history, I think it's time for a little reminder of some facts you probably don't want to see mentioned on a public forum. Too bad. The fact is, we had an American version of Sharia Law in the 19th century. At the beginning of the 19th century in America --

-- Girls got much less education than boys did.

-- Girls' activities, especially for middle- and upper-class girls, were limited to "ladylike" pursuits.

-- Girls and women were considered naturally weaker and inferior to boys and men.

-- It was thought shocking, outrageous, and even scandalous for a woman to give a speech in public, especially to audiences of both men and women.

-- Middle- and upper-class women were expected to confine their activities to a "separate sphere" or their homes. Women were also expected to show the "virtues" of religious piety, wifely submission, and motherly domesticity. And they always had to be escorted outside their homes by a man.

-- Married women had NO legal rights, including to own property, keep their inherited money, enter into contracts, sign legal documents, or control what happened to their wages or their children.

-- Women who were single or had to earn money had very few job opportunities and were always paid less than men who did the same job.

-- Middle- and upper-class women were expected to wear layers of restrictive and heavy clothing, and corsets that were so tight that many women suffered health problems as a result.

-- Almost a million African women were chattel slaves.

-- Women were not allowed to vote.

-- Married women had no choices over their reproductive process. Any woman who got married was expected to produce children, whether she WANTED to be a mother or not.

In addition to the above, as if that weren't oppressive enough, conservative men of the 19th and early 20th century opposed every measure that improved women's lives, especially a woman's right to vote. THAT'S what the 19th century feminists fought so hard to change, and eventually succeeded in doing so, even though it took 72 years, from 1848 to 1920, to achieve that goal. The shame was that it took that long for women to GET that right to vote in the first place.

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This world is a flippin mess. One in two marriages end in divorce, millions of womens offsprings are killed via abortion,1-4 teenagers have an STD, morals values are a thing of the past, women dump their children in daycares to be raised by employees(and they wonder why the bond between mom and child is not there),women and men use each other for sex,etc...
THAT'S progress?
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Funny how you omit the number of teens getting pregnant, especially in backward red states like Mississippi. I wonder why that is; possibly because you don't feel that the high number of teen girls who get pregnant is such a bad thing?

As to the rest of your silly rant, all I can say is: oh PLEASE. I think the world is still a lot BETTER for women than the grim realities of the 19th and early 20th centuries. At least they aren't being DENIED the chance for a college education, access to the trades and professions, and the right to vote, as they were in the 19th century. That was REALLY degrading to women.
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It's very sad that people like Ocean feel like second class citizens.
And just WHERE did I ever say that I feel like a second-class citizen, sASSy? I'll save you the trouble of looking; NOWHERE.

It's quite amusing that you and other anti-choice imbeciles have to LIE about prochoicers when you have NO other argument to offer.

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No, I'm saying that abortion is unequal because of the unborn. We think that we can stop a heartbeat of a child because its a "woman's right." If you're saying that if we overturn Roe v Wade we will be discriminating women, you're wrong because abortion isn't a woman's issue, it's a human rights issue, like slavery. You can't own a slave just like you can't own a fetus.
You've got it backwards. The very same thing that means we cannot own another person's body means that we cannot own another person's reproductive organs.

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Another idiot that doesn't know the difference between killing and dying.....
Of course there is a difference between killing and dying.

I am killing.....I am dying...yes, definitely a difference.

You may want to rephrase that.
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Absolutely! I am a fairly strong girl but if I need something heavy carried, I will not hesitate to seek out a male to lift it for me. Us women are not built like men plus we have women parts that are compromised. Men and women are different and i don't understand why some women are so insecure that they won't admit this. They even refuse to embrace their feminity. Some find it a burdensome to raise or bear children. It's like a dreaded, unwelcomed experience.

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What utter NONSENSE, but coming from you, that is hardly surprising. Contrary to the idiocy you want everyone to believe, motherhood is NOT a requirement for femininity. Neither is marriage.

Both marriage and motherhood are OPTIONS, not requirements. If some women choose NOT to be mothers because they might feel it is burdensome to bear and raise children, that is entirely THEIR decision, and none of YOUR business.

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Understood it the first time. Too many stories of CPS wanting to preserve "intact families" only for the little one to get killed not long after. Or lost altogether in the system ... only years later to discover kid went missing from school, from the neighborhood, folks up and moved... and viola! Now childless.
A local story here highlighted how an aunt, who became guardian after her sister's death, had abused and neglected her niece horribly. CPS had been made aware, but said their hands were tied because the aunt moved or said she was changing schools or whatever excuse she used. It was disgusting. She poked needles into her niece's eyes. But CPS said their hands were tied. Just like those who shoulda been inspecting Gosnell have probably said.
I don't think you can rightly blame Gosnell's horrors on the abortion procedure or laws. I think it all comes down to someone not doing their job properly.
"Too many stories of CPS wanting to preserve "intact families" only for the little one to get killed not long after. Or lost altogether in the system ... only years later to discover kid went missing from school, from the neighborhood, folks up and moved... and viola! Now childless.
A local story here highlighted how an aunt, who became guardian after her sister's death, had abused and neglected her niece horribly. CPS had been made aware, but said their hands were tied because the aunt moved or said she was changing schools or whatever excuse she used. It was disgusting. She poked needles into her niece's eyes. But CPS said their hands were tied."

The CPS workers that knew about this, and did nothing, should be held responsible. I hope that that girl was finally removed from that home.

"I don't think you can rightly blame Gosnell's horrors on the abortion procedure or laws. I think it all comes down to someone not doing their job properly."

I disagree. The people who inspected Gosnell's "clinic" and did nothing to stop him, the inspectors that failed to inspect his "clinic", and the govnor who told them to ignore the laws should be charged as accessories to the crimes, just as the priests that allowed the child abusses to continue should be charges along with the abusers.

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