Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 20 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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Katie

Spanaway, WA

#290897 Mar 27, 2013
Susanm wrote:
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Those who care more about the abortion than they do human lives stop inspections and/or fail to report the dangerous conditions that they find.
Would you say the same thing about those CPS workers whose "kids" were killed under their watch? That they cared more about "intact families" than innocent human lives?
Katie

Spanaway, WA

#290898 Mar 27, 2013
Susanm wrote:
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"Usually when I tell people to F off, they listen. Not you, though. Guess you really like me after all."
I like pointing out your stupidity.
Then the very least you could do is tell me why you're such a B*TCH to me. What did I ever do to you to bring this on?

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#290899 Mar 27, 2013
Katie wrote:
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Would you say the same thing about those CPS workers whose "kids" were killed under their watch? That they cared more about "intact families" than innocent human lives?
If they neglected to inspect the homes and/or knew of dangerous conditions conditions, absolutely.

Since: Feb 07

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#290901 Mar 27, 2013
Susanm wrote:
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If they neglected to inspect the homes and/or knew of dangerous conditions conditions, absolutely.
Should read:

If they neglected to inspect the homes and/or knew of dangerous conditions and did nothing, absolutely.
Katie

Spanaway, WA

#290902 Mar 28, 2013
Susanm wrote:
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Should read:
If they neglected to inspect the homes and/or knew of dangerous conditions and did nothing, absolutely.
Understood it the first time. Too many stories of CPS wanting to preserve "intact families" only for the little one to get killed not long after. Or lost altogether in the system ... only years later to discover kid went missing from school, from the neighborhood, folks up and moved... and viola! Now childless.

A local story here highlighted how an aunt, who became guardian after her sister's death, had abused and neglected her niece horribly. CPS had been made aware, but said their hands were tied because the aunt moved or said she was changing schools or whatever excuse she used. It was disgusting. She poked needles into her niece's eyes. But CPS said their hands were tied. Just like those who shoulda been inspecting Gosnell have probably said.

I don't think you can rightly blame Gosnell's horrors on the abortion procedure or laws. I think it all comes down to someone not doing their job properly.
Ocean56

AOL

#290903 Mar 28, 2013
sasylicious wrote:
I love how you act like homemakers/stay at home moms are "stuck" in the home. You like to degrade women in that way.
If women are truly stuck in the home because they are DENIED opportunities for college education and access to the trades and professions, it WAS degrading to women. Don't like my saying that? Too bad, sASSy, I'll say it all I want.

For you and the rest of the "christian" extremists who think that girls and women were well treated in past American history, I think it's time for a little reminder of some facts you probably don't want to see mentioned on a public forum. Too bad. The fact is, we had an American version of Sharia Law in the 19th century. At the beginning of the 19th century in America --

-- Girls got much less education than boys did.

-- Girls' activities, especially for middle- and upper-class girls, were limited to "ladylike" pursuits.

-- Girls and women were considered naturally weaker and inferior to boys and men.

-- It was thought shocking, outrageous, and even scandalous for a woman to give a speech in public, especially to audiences of both men and women.

-- Middle- and upper-class women were expected to confine their activities to a "separate sphere" or their homes. Women were also expected to show the "virtues" of religious piety, wifely submission, and motherly domesticity. And they always had to be escorted outside their homes by a man.

-- Married women had NO legal rights, including to own property, keep their inherited money, enter into contracts, sign legal documents, or control what happened to their wages or their children.

-- Women who were single or had to earn money had very few job opportunities and were always paid less than men who did the same job.

-- Middle- and upper-class women were expected to wear layers of restrictive and heavy clothing, and corsets that were so tight that many women suffered health problems as a result.

-- Almost a million African women were chattel slaves.

-- Women were not allowed to vote.

-- Married women had no choices over their reproductive process. Any woman who got married was expected to produce children, whether she WANTED to be a mother or not.

In addition to the above, as if that weren't oppressive enough, conservative men of the 19th and early 20th century opposed every measure that improved women's lives, especially a woman's right to vote. THAT'S what the 19th century feminists fought so hard to change, and eventually succeeded in doing so, even though it took 72 years, from 1848 to 1920, to achieve that goal. The shame was that it took that long for women to GET that right to vote in the first place.

Ocean56

AOL

#290904 Mar 28, 2013
sasylicious wrote:
This world is a flippin mess. One in two marriages end in divorce, millions of womens offsprings are killed via abortion,1-4 teenagers have an STD, morals values are a thing of the past, women dump their children in daycares to be raised by employees(and they wonder why the bond between mom and child is not there),women and men use each other for sex,etc...
THAT'S progress?
((sassy shakes her head)))
Funny how you omit the number of teens getting pregnant, especially in backward red states like Mississippi. I wonder why that is; possibly because you don't feel that the high number of teen girls who get pregnant is such a bad thing?

As to the rest of your silly rant, all I can say is: oh PLEASE. I think the world is still a lot BETTER for women than the grim realities of the 19th and early 20th centuries. At least they aren't being DENIED the chance for a college education, access to the trades and professions, and the right to vote, as they were in the 19th century. That was REALLY degrading to women.
Ocean56

AOL

#290905 Mar 28, 2013
sasylicious wrote:
It's very sad that people like Ocean feel like second class citizens.
And just WHERE did I ever say that I feel like a second-class citizen, sASSy? I'll save you the trouble of looking; NOWHERE.

It's quite amusing that you and other anti-choice imbeciles have to LIE about prochoicers when you have NO other argument to offer.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#290906 Mar 28, 2013
bman wrote:
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No, I'm saying that abortion is unequal because of the unborn. We think that we can stop a heartbeat of a child because its a "woman's right." If you're saying that if we overturn Roe v Wade we will be discriminating women, you're wrong because abortion isn't a woman's issue, it's a human rights issue, like slavery. You can't own a slave just like you can't own a fetus.
You've got it backwards. The very same thing that means we cannot own another person's body means that we cannot own another person's reproductive organs.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#290907 Mar 28, 2013
Susanm wrote:
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Another idiot that doesn't know the difference between killing and dying.....
Of course there is a difference between killing and dying.

I am killing.....I am dying...yes, definitely a difference.

You may want to rephrase that.
Ocean56

AOL

#290908 Mar 28, 2013
sasylicious wrote:
Absolutely! I am a fairly strong girl but if I need something heavy carried, I will not hesitate to seek out a male to lift it for me. Us women are not built like men plus we have women parts that are compromised. Men and women are different and i don't understand why some women are so insecure that they won't admit this. They even refuse to embrace their feminity. Some find it a burdensome to raise or bear children. It's like a dreaded, unwelcomed experience.

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What utter NONSENSE, but coming from you, that is hardly surprising. Contrary to the idiocy you want everyone to believe, motherhood is NOT a requirement for femininity. Neither is marriage.

Both marriage and motherhood are OPTIONS, not requirements. If some women choose NOT to be mothers because they might feel it is burdensome to bear and raise children, that is entirely THEIR decision, and none of YOUR business.

Since: Feb 07

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#290909 Mar 28, 2013
Katie wrote:
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Understood it the first time. Too many stories of CPS wanting to preserve "intact families" only for the little one to get killed not long after. Or lost altogether in the system ... only years later to discover kid went missing from school, from the neighborhood, folks up and moved... and viola! Now childless.
A local story here highlighted how an aunt, who became guardian after her sister's death, had abused and neglected her niece horribly. CPS had been made aware, but said their hands were tied because the aunt moved or said she was changing schools or whatever excuse she used. It was disgusting. She poked needles into her niece's eyes. But CPS said their hands were tied. Just like those who shoulda been inspecting Gosnell have probably said.
I don't think you can rightly blame Gosnell's horrors on the abortion procedure or laws. I think it all comes down to someone not doing their job properly.
"Too many stories of CPS wanting to preserve "intact families" only for the little one to get killed not long after. Or lost altogether in the system ... only years later to discover kid went missing from school, from the neighborhood, folks up and moved... and viola! Now childless.
A local story here highlighted how an aunt, who became guardian after her sister's death, had abused and neglected her niece horribly. CPS had been made aware, but said their hands were tied because the aunt moved or said she was changing schools or whatever excuse she used. It was disgusting. She poked needles into her niece's eyes. But CPS said their hands were tied."

The CPS workers that knew about this, and did nothing, should be held responsible. I hope that that girl was finally removed from that home.

"I don't think you can rightly blame Gosnell's horrors on the abortion procedure or laws. I think it all comes down to someone not doing their job properly."

I disagree. The people who inspected Gosnell's "clinic" and did nothing to stop him, the inspectors that failed to inspect his "clinic", and the govnor who told them to ignore the laws should be charged as accessories to the crimes, just as the priests that allowed the child abusses to continue should be charges along with the abusers.

Since: Feb 07

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#290910 Mar 28, 2013
Bitner wrote:
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Of course there is a difference between killing and dying.
I am killing.....I am dying...yes, definitely a difference.
You may want to rephrase that.
The zef died, the zef was killed....no, I stand on what I said.
zaggag

Pittsburgh, PA

#290912 Mar 28, 2013
youtube.com/watch... Lets get Ugly,,seriously:(
Ink

Philadelphia, PA

#290913 Mar 28, 2013
Katie wrote:
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Avon?
Amway?
Mary Kay?
Transcriber?
Typist?
Author?
Accountant?
I've worked from home. I'm still an independent contractor. Responsible for everything. Including my taxes and benefits. No employer to match me.
But I'm not every woman claiming my way is better than anyone else's. My way is better for me, though. Better for my kids. It allowed me to be home when they came home from school.
Surely you'd approve.
:|
You are the one complaining about all your setbacks and passovers due to being a woman. Make up your mind.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#290914 Mar 28, 2013
Susanm wrote:
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The zef died, the zef was killed....no, I stand on what I said.
You didn't say died and killed. You said killing and dying. It's not the same thing at all. How can we debate without precision?

By the way, in BOTH examples you used, the zef died.

Since: Sep 08

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#290915 Mar 28, 2013
bman wrote:
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Ever heard of sarcasm dumbass? I was asking those questions because I knew your statement of the fetus being PART of a woman's BODY (aka body part) was nonsense.
Sorry Stinky, but something being PART of one's body does NOT have to equate to a BODY PART. Cancer is part of one's body, but is not a BODY PART for just one more example dumbass.
My sarcasm was to prove how your argument carries little weight.
How sad for you then, that all your sarcasm did was highlight your foolishness.
If someone kills a pregnant woman and her fetus, why is that considered a double homicide? Please explain of you can.
It wont be considered a "double homicide" fool. It CAN be considered a 'fetal homicide" in certain states, IF certain criteria are met.

@@ This line of 'debate' has been thoroughly debunked many times now.

Carry on troll.

Since: Sep 08

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#290916 Mar 28, 2013
Susanm wrote:
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"Its not like the guy was legitimate in ANY way, shape or form."
One question-why would the NAF inspect an illegal "clinic"?
First off, I didn't say it was an 'illegal clinic'- I said there was nothing legitimate about him. And they did it (and ignored the violations) for the same reason the Health Department did I suppose. We'd have to hear from THEM to find out the whys, I certainly dont have any more answers than you do, y'know? But I'd LIKE the answers, if only so it never happens again.

Since: Feb 07

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#290917 Mar 28, 2013
Bitner wrote:
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You didn't say died and killed. You said killing and dying. It's not the same thing at all. How can we debate without precision?
By the way, in BOTH examples you used, the zef died.
"You didn't say died and killed. You said killing and dying. It's not the same thing at all. How can we debate without precision?"

Either way there is a difference.

"By the way, in BOTH examples you used, the zef died."

No, in both exmples the zef ended up dead-there IS a difference.

Since: Sep 08

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#290918 Mar 28, 2013
bman wrote:
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No, there are women who have had abortions just for the fun of it.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12200...
Stop lying fool. From your own article:

"She claimed she had the abortions so her husband wouldn't leave her although she failed to reveal whether he knew of the terminations."

She didn't say anything about "for the fun of it".

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