Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

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Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.
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March 13, 2013 (ActonInstitute)- Early today, Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio of Buenos Aires, Argentina was elected as the 266th pope of the Catholic Church. Here are nine things you should know about Pope Francis.
1. Bergoglio was born in Buenos Aires in 1936. His father was an Italian immigrant
2. He’s the first pope from South America. The only remaining continents that have never had a pope come from their lands are Australia, Antarctica, and North America.
3. He’s the first Jesuit pope.
4. He only has one lung. His other lung was removed due to infection when he was a teenager
5. Bergoglio is known for his personal simplicity. In Argentina he lived in a simple apartment rather than the archbishop’s palace, cooked his own meals, and gave up his chauffeured limousine in favor of taking the bus to work.
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6. In 2010, when Argentina became the first Latin American country to legalize same-sex marriage, Bergoglio encouraged clergy across the country to tell Catholics to protest against the legislation because, if enacted, it could “seriously injure the family” and that gay adoption would be “depriving (children) of the human growth that God wanted them given by a father and a mother.”
7. He studied and received a master’s degree in chemistry at the University of Buenos Aires, but later decided to become a Jesuit priest and studied liberal arts at the Catholic seminary in Santiago, Chile.
8. At the age of 76, Francis is the ninth oldest pope of those elected after 1295.(Benedict, who was elected at the age of 78, was fifth oldest.)
9. Last year, Bergoglio compared Catholic priests who refused to baptize the children of unwed mothers to the Pharisees of Jesus’ day.“These are today’s hypocrites. Those who clericalize the Church,” he said, adding,“Jesus teaches us another way: Go out. Go out and share your testimony, go out and interact with your brothers, go out and share, go out and ask. Become the Word in body as well as spirit.”
LifeSiteNews editor's note: To this list we would add a 10th "must know" fact. That Cardinal Bergoglio has strongly condemned abortion, even in cases of rape. In a 2007 speech given to a gathering of priests and laity on October 2nd, then-Cardinal Bergoglio issued a defense of life even in cases of rape saying: "we aren’t in agreement with the death penalty," but "in Argentina we have the death penalty. A child conceived by the rape of a mentally ill or retarded woman can be condemned to death."
Reprinted with permission from The Acton Institute.
"Last year, Bergoglio compared Catholic priests who refused to baptize the children of unwed mothers to the Pharisees of Jesus’ day.“These are today’s hypocrites."
Someone should tell him that using "Pharisees" as a pejorative labels him as an anti-semite.

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Hey, maybe I can't reconcile it, according to you,
No, not according to me. The fact is it CAN'T be reconciled. It is a blatant contradiction and only one of the reasons RvW was a terrible decision. How can you consider a SC decision that includes such contradictory statements to be acceptable let alone good constitutional law ?

but still you did not address my point about elevating the rights of the z/e/f above the rights of the woman.
I never said they should be. When the same rights of each are compared and are in conflict, the woman's rights should always prevail.

The z/e/f is not born, but the woman is. And I don't have the legal expertise of a Supreme Court Justice ya know?
So what ? So you define the point at which a human life is due legal protection to be some arbitrary point of separation from it's mother ? That logic doesn't hold up to any scrutiny.....legal, moral or otherwise. Besides, an unborn fetus is ALREADY afforded legal protection post-viability. You disagree with RvW ?
Every time you ejac-late (topix doesn't like that word) millions of live sperms will die...sperm that had the *potential* to become a person. Would you want your sperm's rights elevated above your own? I realize it's not the best analogy, but I think you get the point.
Ridiculous. We're back to talking about sperm and individual cells being considered as life. This is NOT what the SC was referring to when they spoke of "life".
What we need is BC that is 100% effective and then 100% compliance with using it and then we could be arguing something else.
I've got to get to work. Have a good one.
That would be a good start. But even now though no BC method is 100% effective, proper use of two forms of BC used in conjunction with each other would reduce the risk of pregnancy to an extremely small percentage. No educated person today need ever become pregnant if they don't want to. The incidence of abortion today just illustrates the fact that it is still being used as a back up form of birth control on a massive scale by the lazy, careless and the indifferent. To deny that is to deny reality.

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<quoted text>You're a sickfuck.....who loves a big fat co ck in his mouth a real sick doucebag.....
Staring at gay porn again?

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"It's precisely the difference in the process that qualifies it as a crime.
Your reference to suicide is also not relevant as the comparison has always been a "natural" occurring death vs intentional death caused by outside influence....and the difference between those two."

You are talking about elective abortions here and equating it with homicide (intentional death caused by outside influence. So yeah you are referencing abortion as murder.
Yeah I'm equating it with homicide. Homicide is not necessarily murder. All homicide isn't even necessarily criminal. So exactly how am I equating it with murder again ? Stop lying.
The only difference is the intent, there is no difference in the process.
Pretty significant difference I'd say. The same way the only difference between death caused by cardiac arrest due to a congenital heart defect and death due to cardiac arrest caused by a fired bullet through the heart is intent. The process of death is still the same. But it would be ludicrous to compare the two and conclude that because the process of death is the same with each that there is no difference between the two.

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<quoted text>As I posted: Ant-choicers want viability to occur within the first 3 months which would give states the right to impose resistrictions.
This would happen if the trimester framework was struck down.
I'm "anti-choice" and I don't want viability to occur within the first 3 months. In fact I don't think viability should be the basis for when a human life is afforded legal protection at all.
Stop assuming you always know what others "want".

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It has been interesting. And entertaining!
Hope you're having a nice evening over there, Foo :)
It has been similarly entertaining watching you evade my question about how a preemie today could ever REACH viability with medical assistance.
Explain the scenario under which that could ever be possible as you said it could ?
You can make up any scenario you wish.

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I'm "anti-choice" and I don't want viability to occur within the first 3 months. In fact I don't think viability should be the basis for when a human life is afforded legal protection at all.
Stop assuming you always know what others "want".
Why does anyone assume they should be the one to determine 'viability' for anyone else? It's a very subjective term.

If you want to 'eliminate' abortion, it's 'vulnerability' which needs to be dealt with. And hey - that's subjective too.

The only way to eliminate abortion, is to eliminate human nature. Not going to happen for at least another couple of thousand years, and the 'law' isn't going to be the reason for it. Unless, of course, we refer to the Law of Nature.

When it becomes even more beneficial to the species for women to gestate willingly than not

(and MOST WOMEN GESTATE, KEEP AND LOVINGLY RAISE our children NOW, by the way....)

THEN we will evolve to only get pregnant when we WANT to.

You don't get to be the one who makes it so.

Sorry about your luck...but not very.

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It is a terrible analogy. However, most of you proabortion pagans make terrible analogies in order to make your pointless points of view. All you care about are yourselves. The unborn child is just a casulty of your wanton sexual behavior.
An unborn child starts life at conception. Sperm is alive and so is a female egg but an unborn child is just that, an unborn human being developing to the point of full independent life. That is something nothing but the unborn child can accomploish.
It is a basic fact of life that you pagans cannot or I should say willnot grasp becasue it would shatter your self-centered universe.
Agree with you here. The PC have to be the kings of bad analogies.
Remember Tinker Bell trying to make the right to abortion analogous to the right of a homeowner to evict an unwanted tenant ? An analogy that fails on every level and one which I completely shredded.
These dopes will make similar analogies between born and unborn humans yet when any pro life dares try the same they are attacked with..." are you really comparing a fetus to a human being ? Human beings are born, idiot."
Misguided PC dopes. Ya gotta love em.
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March 13, 2013 (ActonInstitute)- Early today, Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio of Buenos Aires, Argentina was elected as the 266th pope of the Catholic Church. Here are nine things you should know about Pope Francis.
1. Bergoglio was born in Buenos Aires in 1936. His father was an Italian immigrant
2. He’s the first pope from South America. The only remaining continents that have never had a pope come from their lands are Australia, Antarctica, and North America.
3. He’s the first Jesuit pope.
4. He only has one lung. His other lung was removed due to infection when he was a teenager
5. Bergoglio is known for his personal simplicity. In Argentina he lived in a simple apartment rather than the archbishop’s palace, cooked his own meals, and gave up his chauffeured limousine in favor of taking the bus to work.
Click "like" if you are PRO-LIFE!
6. In 2010, when Argentina became the first Latin American country to legalize same-sex marriage, Bergoglio encouraged clergy across the country to tell Catholics to protest against the legislation because, if enacted, it could “seriously injure the family” and that gay adoption would be “depriving (children) of the human growth that God wanted them given by a father and a mother.”
7. He studied and received a master’s degree in chemistry at the University of Buenos Aires, but later decided to become a Jesuit priest and studied liberal arts at the Catholic seminary in Santiago, Chile.
8. At the age of 76, Francis is the ninth oldest pope of those elected after 1295.(Benedict, who was elected at the age of 78, was fifth oldest.)
9. Last year, Bergoglio compared Catholic priests who refused to baptize the children of unwed mothers to the Pharisees of Jesus’ day.“These are today’s hypocrites. Those who clericalize the Church,” he said, adding,“Jesus teaches us another way: Go out. Go out and share your testimony, go out and interact with your brothers, go out and share, go out and ask. Become the Word in body as well as spirit.”
LifeSiteNews editor's note: To this list we would add a 10th "must know" fact. That Cardinal Bergoglio has strongly condemned abortion, even in cases of rape. In a 2007 speech given to a gathering of priests and laity on October 2nd, then-Cardinal Bergoglio issued a defense of life even in cases of rape saying: "we aren’t in agreement with the death penalty," but "in Argentina we have the death penalty. A child conceived by the rape of a mentally ill or retarded woman can be condemned to death."
Reprinted with permission from The Acton Institute.
Bullshit condensed down to one sentence:

Same shit - different dope.

...oh...I meant....pope. oopsie.
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March 13, 2013 (ActonInstitute)- Early today, Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio of Buenos Aires, Argentina was elected as the 266th pope of the Catholic Church. Here are nine things you should know about Pope Francis.
1. Bergoglio was born in Buenos Aires in 1936. His father was an Italian immigrant
2. He’s the first pope from South America. The only remaining continents that have never had a pope come from their lands are Australia, Antarctica, and North America.
3. He’s the first Jesuit pope.
4. He only has one lung. His other lung was removed due to infection when he was a teenager
5. Bergoglio is known for his personal simplicity. In Argentina he lived in a simple apartment rather than the archbishop’s palace, cooked his own meals, and gave up his chauffeured limousine in favor of taking the bus to work.
Click "like" if you are PRO-LIFE!
6. In 2010, when Argentina became the first Latin American country to legalize same-sex marriage, Bergoglio encouraged clergy across the country to tell Catholics to protest against the legislation because, if enacted, it could “seriously injure the family” and that gay adoption would be “depriving (children) of the human growth that God wanted them given by a father and a mother.”
7. He studied and received a master’s degree in chemistry at the University of Buenos Aires, but later decided to become a Jesuit priest and studied liberal arts at the Catholic seminary in Santiago, Chile.
8. At the age of 76, Francis is the ninth oldest pope of those elected after 1295.(Benedict, who was elected at the age of 78, was fifth oldest.)
9. Last year, Bergoglio compared Catholic priests who refused to baptize the children of unwed mothers to the Pharisees of Jesus’ day.“These are today’s hypocrites. Those who clericalize the Church,” he said, adding,“Jesus teaches us another way: Go out. Go out and share your testimony, go out and interact with your brothers, go out and share, go out and ask. Become the Word in body as well as spirit.”
LifeSiteNews editor's note: To this list we would add a 10th "must know" fact. That Cardinal Bergoglio has strongly condemned abortion, even in cases of rape. In a 2007 speech given to a gathering of priests and laity on October 2nd, then-Cardinal Bergoglio issued a defense of life even in cases of rape saying: "we aren’t in agreement with the death penalty," but "in Argentina we have the death penalty. A child conceived by the rape of a mentally ill or retarded woman can be condemned to death."
Reprinted with permission from The Acton Institute.
Bullshit above in one sentence:

Same shit, different dope.

.....oh. gee. I meant pope. oopsie.
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How appropriate...a pope named after a talking mule!
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Or Kevin Spacey's character on "House of Cards".

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How appropriate...a pope named after a talking mule!
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After your demonstrated lack of basic understanding of the Constitution and the concept of viability, how can you possibly still be posting here ??? No one who matters takes you seriously anymore. You have no credibility. Shoo ya fairy !! Scat !!
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It has been similarly entertaining watching you evade my question about how a preemie today could ever REACH viability with medical assistance.
Explain the scenario under which that could ever be possible as you said it could ?
You can make up any scenario you wish.
I s'pose it's just coincidence you've missed every single post where I've used this example.

Last time, just for you, because you're "special".

A physician determines fetus is viable and delivers him/her. Newborn is hooked up to ALS and struggles. Unfortunately, newborn dies anyway, despite all attempts.

Did that newborn reach viability or not, Doc?

(i've used viability and ability to survive interchangeably)

http://www.uptodate.com/contents/limit-of-via...

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<quoted text>Why does anyone assume they should be the one to determine 'viability' for anyone else? It's a very subjective term.
You don't make any sense. As mind numbingly enigmatic as Grumpy is this is not anywhere close to what he was saying. He wasn't trying to determine when viability occurs nor was he even saying that AC were trying to determine when viability occurs. He was saying AC "wish" that viability would occur at this point. The fact is the viability is NOT a subjective term. It's legal definition as it pertains to the abortion issue has already been established by the SC. It is what is is. "When" viability occurs however will always be a determination that falls in the hands of MD's.
No one knows what you are even talking about here.
If you want to 'eliminate' abortion, it's 'vulnerability' which needs to be dealt with. And hey - that's subjective too.
Eliminate ? Hardly. Abortion will never be eliminated. I seek only legal protection for the unborn. And I am not naive enough to believe that doing so would ever eliminate abortion. The same way laws against murder do not and will not ever eliminate IT.
The only way to eliminate abortion, is to eliminate human nature. Not going to happen for at least another couple of thousand years, and the 'law' isn't going to be the reason for it. Unless, of course, we refer to the Law of Nature.
When it becomes even more beneficial to the species for women to gestate willingly than not
(and MOST WOMEN GESTATE, KEEP AND LOVINGLY RAISE our children NOW, by the way....)
That's lovely. And most born people don't intentionally kill each other either.
THEN we will evolve to only get pregnant when we WANT to.
You don't get to be the one who makes it so.
Sorry about your luck...but not very.
And I'm sorry you came outta hibernation only to bestow upon us the indecipherable babble above....
but not very.

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I s'pose it's just coincidence you've missed every single post where I've used this example.
You s'pose a lot. I used to s'pose you had a half a brain.
Last time, just for you, because you're "special".
A physician determines fetus is viable and delivers him/her. Newborn is hooked up to ALS and struggles. Unfortunately, newborn dies anyway, despite all attempts.
Did that newborn reach viability or not, Doc?
NO ! It did not reach viability ! It was never viable. Despite the physician's inaccurate determination.

Now I'll ask you again you special little nudnik. Give me an example of a preemie that DOES reach viability viability with medical assistance. Get it stupid ? A preemie that D-O-E-S reach viability.
(i've used viability and ability to survive interchangeably)
http://www.uptodate.com/contents/limit-of-via...
And I use the term idiot and you interchangeably.

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ROFLMAOOOO!! First thing I thought of as well!
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Yes, there is evidence. More importantly, it's not a matter of belief; evolution is the theory that most effectively explains the data. I fully expect that there will be adjustments as time goes on, because that's what science is.
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The bible says Ethiopia is where the first rivers and
Adam and Eve were created along with the beasts and the
fowls. When they disobeyed him, he took them out of Eden.
Science is mans way of explaining what exists instead of
believing in God. Why would an ape become a man?
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I think this was very clear..."Even if there is a God I would not believe that he would run Heaven like some exclusive country club that only allows in certain kinds of people."
I never said there would be a heaven for non-believers. I said that I wouldn't believe God would exclude people from heaven.
The way your religion tells it ONLY Christians are getting in...and I think that is just religious b.s.
I don't think there is a God. I think that you and your fellow Christians think there is a God who only wants to let Christians into his heaven....and that comes from what your religion teaches you. Everybody else is barred from entering Heaven. Do you really want to portray God as being that way?
Religion and God are 2 very different things.
You can go to Heaven if you are of the Fatih. You are not, that is free will. You may ask for forgvieness but you won't.
Since you proudly procalim you are a red-headed pagan, I can see where some of your rage comes from.

As a ginger, you were no doubt teased by other children. They propably called you Spawn of Satan. You are lashing out at childhood memories by blocking and mocking the Faith in your life. Yet you are only hurting yourself and not those who wronged you.
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You s'pose a lot. I used to s'pose you had a half a brain.
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NO ! It did not reach viability ! It was never viable. Despite the physician's inaccurate determination.
Now I'll ask you again you special little nudnik. Give me an example of a preemie that DOES reach viability viability with medical assistance. Get it stupid ? A preemie that D-O-E-S reach viability.
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And I use the term idiot and you interchangeably.
Not until you remember your manners. Show some respect, Doc.
You'd not be tolerated talking to me like this in person. What makes you think you can talk to me like this online?
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I want to congratulate my Catholic friend son the elevation of Pope Francis. We all know the greatness of Saint Francis and it is refreshing to see a memeber of the Jesuit Order elevated to Pope.
the Jesuits pride themselves on their pursuit of knowledge and humble ways.

While not formally a Catholic, I understand that Catholic, meaning universal puts all Christians into one lvong family.

Therefore, this is a great day for all Christians.

Ignore the pagan haters, they are merely Satans sock puppets here on earth. Aslo grumpy thinks every Chritian is an anti-semite. He is just one angry old confused Zionist.

I will pray for Pope Francis.

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