Hey,bitohoneybooboo AKA Bitler Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, on April 6th of this year, the President of the United States traveled halfway around the globe, and in the nation of Turkey, essentially proclaimed that the United States was not a Judeo-Christian nation.
I dont challenge his right to do that or dispute the fact that it is what he believes, but I wish he had asked and answered two questions when he did that. The first question was whether or not we ever considered ourselves a Judeo-Christian nation, and the second one was, if we did, what was the moment in time where we ceased to be so? If asked the first question, Mr. Speaker, you would find that the very first act of the first congress in the United States was to bring in a minister and have congress led in prayer, and afterwards read four chapters out of the bible. A few years later, when we unanimously declared our independence, we made certain that the rights in there were given to us by our creator. When the Treaty of Paris was signed in 1783, it ended the revolutionary war and birthed this nation. The signers of that document made clear that it began with this phrase,in the name of the most holy and undivided trinity.
When our constitution was signed, the signers made sure that they punctuated the end of it by saying,in the year of our lord, 1787, and 100 years later in the supreme court case of Holy Trinity Church vs. United States, the Supreme Court indicated, after recounting the long history of faith in this country, that we were a Christian nation. President George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, Herbert Hoover, Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman, John Kennedy, and Ronald Reagan, all disagreed with the Presidents comments, and indicated how the bible and Judeo-Christian principles were so important to this nation. Franklin Roosevelt even led this nation in a six-minute prayer before the invasion of perhaps the greatest battle in history, in the Invasion of Normandy, and asked for Gods protection. After that war, congress came together and said,Where are we going to put our trust? It wasnt in our weapons systems, or our economy, or our great decisions here. It was in God we trust, which is emboldened directly behind you. So, if in fact we were a nation that was birthed on those Judeo-Christian principles, what was that moment in time when we ceased to so be?
It wasnt when a small group of people succeeded in taking prayer out of our schools, or when they tried to cover up the word referencing God on the Washington Monument. Or, when they tried to stop our veterans from having flag-folding ceremonies at their funerals on a voluntary basis because they mentioned God, or even when they tried in the new visitors center to change the national motto, and to refuse to put in God we trust in there. No, Mr. Speaker, it wasnt any of those times because they can rip that word off of all of our buildings and still those Judeo-Christian principles are so interwoven in a tapestry of freedom and liberty, that to begin to unravel one is to unravel the other.
Thats why we have filed the Spiritual Heritage Resolution, to help reaffirm that great history of faith that we have in this nation and to say to those individuals who have yielded to the temptation of concluding that we are no longer a Judeo-Christian nation, to come back....
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#288547 Mar 10, 2013
The constitution allows for freedom of religion--for everyone, not just jews and christians. The government itself is secular and cannot establish an official faith. Thus, we are not a judeo-christian nation. Not to mention that jews were treated pretty shabbily fo much of our historry by christians.
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#288548 Mar 10, 2013
If the way you live is making you happy then that's good, but we all should be able to find out own path, whether it leads to Jesus or not.
#288549 Mar 10, 2013
It's a given if she miscarried, she was pregnant. The translation for "rot" includes abortion.
Never made that claim.
You never answered how sterility could prove infidelity.
You'd rather keep going round and round, applying the faith-based view when it suits you and the secular view when it suits you.
AyakaNeo rightly pointed out that the bitter water would only affect the guilty woman, even if the innocent woman were also pregnant. That is the faith based view -- that God would reveal the truth.
The secular view is the bitter water would affect both guilty and innocent women the same, if both were pregnant. That is the view you are arguing.
I've argued (in the past) the husband better have been damn sure his wife cheated, else he may be forcing her to miscarry a potential hier. That goes with the secular view.
I've already said the only sure test that could prove a woman cheated is if the priest took a swab from her vagina and found another man's DNA. Again, secular view.
I think we've exhausted all "what ifs", yet you still pretend the translation does not exist, even though I've shown it to you several times.
I'm bored with it.
I suppose there's really no use in getting into the 7 cays creation question. You'd dismiss the translations without explanation, as you've done here, and I'd be just wasting my time.
#288550 Mar 10, 2013
God wrote the 10 Commandments on both sets. Gtown simply didn't bother to read it. He repeats what he's been told without bothering to check it out. Not to be trusted.
#288551 Mar 10, 2013
Yeah, he's good at misleading people.
God help anyone who listens to him quote the Book of Job. I can imagine the mess that would be.
#288552 Mar 10, 2013
"All those people are still God's people, right? In the same sense that they were known in the womb, too. Right?"
Some Christians believe the Good Lord chose to spare them from the harshness of the world. That is not doctrinal, mind you.
#288554 Mar 10, 2013
Of course you could care less. "No it's not" is the lie you tell yourself when facts smack you upside your crybaby head. lol
#288555 Mar 10, 2013
Gtown is the worst kind of "christian". He's proud not to be a student of the Word. He thinks he knows all there is to know. He's lazy, believes he's too good to learn. He's actually dangerous to new Christians, giving them false information.
#288556 Mar 10, 2013
Well, tell'em, ya jackass. I gave you the link a bunch of times.
Course it never occurred to you to crack open the Book, yourself.
#288557 Mar 10, 2013
Is anyone buying this "duh-derp I done wrong" crap?
#288558 Mar 10, 2013
It's safe to say you are wrong.... and I think you may be drinking too much. I was talking to you about how you expect to see lost loved ones in the afterlife. Ramble on.
#288559 Mar 10, 2013
#288560 Mar 10, 2013
Thanks for a good laugh, whacko.
#288561 Mar 10, 2013
Sto, I spend most of my time telling others how Jesus can save their souls, NOT trying to make a bible verse condon abortion as you.
Is there any reason why you are a christian?
Can you tell me why you feel being a christian is a good thing?
Sure I get it wrong at times, as we all do, but I will addmit it.
All I've seen from you so far, is how you call other christians names while missquoting the bible,so again I'll ask what happens to those who die without being saved?
#288562 Mar 10, 2013
Living a "good " life is important,but the bible says only the Rightous will go to Heaven.
Now knowing that both those who claim to be christians sin, even the best of the best are not perfect, then if there is a God, and He demands rightousness, then that cannot come from ones self.
It must be imputed.
I'm just asking that you question everything you think you know.
It is not about how "good " a person is, it is a position of being a child of God or not that counts.
Perhaps look up the "good test ",to see how you do, if God will judge us by the 10 commandments, how would you do?
It goes back to have you ever told lie? What do you call someone who lies?
Used Gods name in vain?
We view bad things and good things one way.
God views them another.
#288563 Mar 10, 2013
Glad I can make you laugh.
You can put anything I've wrote to the test.
Get drunk and see how much booze it takes, and after a year or two of drinking see how many it takes.
Same with drugs, what one pill does today, it will take two tmrw, and the a bottle in a few months.
Eating? Well just go to a buffet, and you will see :)
Your fingerprints are one way that you were born unique from all others. Since no one else "out of the billions of people "has your prints.
Evolution has No use for everyones prints to be different.
Just one of many things, that show a person, that they are created.
#288564 Mar 10, 2013
Your own words condemn your soul. You speak of "I". It is all about 'you'. What 'you' do, what 'you' accomplish, who 'you' help. See a pattern?
Lose the "I' and gain your soul. You can't understand that, as your pagan ways are your chains.
You can attack me all you want but I am secure in my belief and the knowledge that my salvation is assured.
All the "you" achievements do not make up for supporting the death of one unborn child.
#288565 Mar 10, 2013
Your quest will be hard since you have not allowed God into your heart.
#288566 Mar 10, 2013
"The sinfilled flesh all people wear will be with them till death.
It is not subject to Gods law and can't be."
The flesh is not subject to God's Law and "can't be", ya say?
You got it entirely wrong, again -- the glaring opposite of what the Word teaches. I mean, c'mon, dude, this is Christianity 101. I could use a lot of different references.
Read Romans 7
Here's a part of it:
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
#288567 Mar 10, 2013
Not only have I not misquoted the Bible, I tell exactly what Chapter and Verse it is, and even copy and paste it, while you speak out of your ass and get it wrong over and over and over.
You don't just "duhderp - get it wrong"; you teach falsely.
I will correct you whenever I see it because it's not right that you mislead Christians and non-Christians, alike.
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