Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 310174 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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“docendo discimus”

Since: Jan 07

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#251617 Aug 6, 2012
Katie wrote:
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"Why dont you just admit that you think abortion is 100% about the woman's concerns and desires until the cord is cut? Seriously, if that is how you feel why mask it?"
Because it's not what I believe. I've been very clear and concise. There are exceptions. Even after viability. I may not agree with these, I may not like these, but there is a small need. Something like .03% if I'm remembering right.
You see what you want to see, BA.
OK, Katie, so tell me when a woman's "right" to abort should not super cede protection of the fetus/the State's interest to protect life.

“docendo discimus”

Since: Jan 07

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#251618 Aug 6, 2012
Katie wrote:
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Um, the countries with socialized medicine do not force abortion. There may be zero restrictions, but this is not the same as forcing. Please provide just one example of forced abortion where socialized medicine is practiced.
Really, China is a socialist nation, have you heard about it's restrictions on child birth?

“docendo discimus”

Since: Jan 07

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#251619 Aug 6, 2012
Katie wrote:
My alarm goes off in a couple hours. I have to get a nap in.
A baby girl is in process of being born right now. Her mother (my daughter) has been laboring all day since early this morning. Thought she'd be here by now, but not yet.
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Congratulations Katie, best wishes for you and yours.
Katie wrote:
NR will remind you all how I said personally, at viability, I believe it's a baby. Factually, in utero, it's still a fetus, but my personal opinion is it's a baby. I have posted this a bazillion times, but put it out there again for you, BA.
G'night.
But you've argued against restriction on the woman to abort until the cord is cut, sorry, but I just dont see it that way. G'night Katie, and again, best wishes.
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#251620 Aug 7, 2012
Katie wrote:
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OMG! You are as bad as NR with an inability to separate personal from factual. Here's a reality check for you.
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"This from someone who argued for partial birth abortion?"
There is no "partial birth abortion". There was the D&X procedure which was safer for the woman AND allowed her a whole baby to hold and grieve.
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"The same person who contends that a born baby is not "born" until the cord is cut?"
I claimed the birth process separating fetus from baby included cutting the cord and baby breathing.
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"And you've also argued that "emotional health" ( a woman not being able to deal emotionally with the fact that she is pregnant, such as too fat, not being able to go out with friends, or just not feeling attractive anymore) is a legitimate reason to abort a viable fetus!"
I just rewrote that old argument and it sure didn't look like what you wrote above. You don't give psych patients (such as schizophrenics) the seriousness deserved when you compare it with "too fat" or "not being able to go out". But you sure just verified my prior post. Thanks much!
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"Come on Katie, your arguments are about the woman with no regard for the fetus at any point."
Yeah, there's a woman wrapped around that uterus holding an embryo/fetus. A woman seemingly forgotten by you and others like-minded. SHE has an established life, SHE has civil rights. I do not disregard the embryo/fetus, as you try to claim, but I realize if somebody else's pregnancy is unwanted, unhealthy, or potentially fatal, I have absolutely no say-so in their decisions regarding it. None. And if it was me, I wouldn't want anyone else (you, JM, Ink, Sue, NR, etc.) to make the decision for me, either.
Anyone that has a uterous just to have a place to kill innocent people should not be allowed to have a uterus. Any homicidal tyrant could just as easily have their uterous removed as kill the people they put in their uterus.

Since: Jun 08

Atrisco Village

#251621 Aug 7, 2012
Susanm wrote:
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The killing of human life is everyones business.
That is a cloying and ridiculously broad statement. It really doesn't mean anything but its nice bumper sticker material.

It's nobody business why a woman wants an abortion.

Since: Jun 08

Atrisco Village

#251622 Aug 7, 2012
zef wrote:
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Abortion affects the people killed with abortion. Abortion makes the people killed with abortion dead. The people killed with abortion are among "us", untill they are killed with abortion. Than the people killed with abortion are no longer among "us", because they were killed with an abortion. Which directly affects who "us" are. Killing some of "us" affects "us", because killing some of "us" makes some of "us" dead. Which changes who "us" are into less of "us". Anyone can be killed at any age without anyone but the killer knowing about it. Which doesn't justify killing anyone.
Yup, you're still nutzo. How you feel about it doesn't matter one iota. As always.
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#251623 Aug 7, 2012
elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text>That is a cloying and ridiculously broad statement. It really doesn't mean anything but its nice bumper sticker material.
It's nobody business why a woman wants an abortion.
Is that your way of saying nobody should care if a woman is killed?

Since: Sep 08

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#251624 Aug 7, 2012
zef wrote:
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Abortion affects the people killed with abortion. Abortion makes the people killed with abortion dead. The people killed with abortion are among "us", untill they are killed with abortion. Than the people killed with abortion are no longer among "us", because they were killed with an abortion. Which directly affects who "us" are. Killing some of "us" affects "us", because killing some of "us" makes some of "us" dead. Which changes who "us" are into less of "us". Anyone can be killed at any age without anyone but the killer knowing about it. Which doesn't justify killing anyone.
You're an idiot. There are not "people killed with abortion" unless it women that are gestating that are murdered.

“Dan IS the Man”

Since: May 12

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#251625 Aug 7, 2012
LadiLulu wrote:
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hahahahahhaha!
Now THAT would be a reason to party!!
There would be dancing all over the decks!

“Dan IS the Man”

Since: May 12

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#251626 Aug 7, 2012
ThomasA wrote:
<quoted text>My gosh!! You're assuming women are so fucki%$ dumb and totally stupid to the fact that they may be pregnant even up to the late stages? Your control fetish is in high gear and you're using all the stupid shi7 you csn come up with to try to convince people you know what the he77 you're talking about. Seek help for your control addiction before it consumes you!
What SASSY doesn't get at all is that there are a lot of choices to make every day, not just 2; abort or don't abort. A woman who gets past 8 months of pregnancy without even knowing she is pregnant had made choices to ignore signs like lack of menses, many bodily changes, symptoms like fatigue, back pains, cramping, weight gain, etc. It was the decisions to ignore the signs and not seek any answers that lead to a woman being "forced" to endure an unwanted pregnancy and be "forced" to give birth. No laws or "restrictions" did that, but rather her own actions, or inactions.

There is still always the reality of personal responsibility/accountability. People have to take charge of their own lives and not always blame the laws, the Government or other people for their demise.

“...sigh”

Since: Nov 09

Smithtown, NY

#251627 Aug 7, 2012
Badaxe wrote:
<quoted text>What? This from someone who argued for partial birth abortion? The same person who contends that a born baby is not "born" until the cord is cut? And you've also argued that "emotional health" ( a woman not being able to deal emotionally with the fact that she is pregnant, such as too fat, not being able to go out with friends, or just not feeling attractive anymore) is a legitimate reason to abort a viable fetus! Come on Katie, your arguments are about the woman with no regard for the fetus at any point.
Do you have any links to credible (not anecdotal, or biased, for example) sites that provide evidence that women abort post-viable fetuses due to their not wanting to "be fat," or due to the pregnancy's impact on their attractiveness and/or social life, by any chance, BA?

“Dan IS the Man”

Since: May 12

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#251628 Aug 7, 2012
zef wrote:
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Factually human rights are naturally endowed. Meaning humans have human rights simply because they are human. Birth has nothing to do with our being human, we are just as human before being born as after. Granting rights to cows and pigs simply because the are born, while denying the rights of people simply because they are yet to be born, is sheer lunacy.
I have to disagree...rights are a man-made concept. They don't occur naturally. That is to say, we don't find rights occurring in nature. You even inferred that yourself with the phrase "granting rights..."

“...sigh”

Since: Nov 09

Smithtown, NY

#251629 Aug 7, 2012
Katie wrote:
My alarm goes off in a couple hours. I have to get a nap in.
A baby girl is in process of being born right now. Her mother (my daughter) has been laboring all day since early this morning. Thought she'd be here by now, but not yet.
NR will remind you all how I said personally, at viability, I believe it's a baby. Factually, in utero, it's still a fetus, but my personal opinion is it's a baby. I have posted this a bazillion times, but put it out there again for you, BA.
G'night.
woohoo!

Good luck and congrats to you and your family, katie!!!

xoxoxoxo!

(wait for it)

“...sigh”

Since: Nov 09

Smithtown, NY

#251630 Aug 7, 2012
zef wrote:
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Anyone that has a uterous just to have a place to kill innocent people should not be allowed to have a uterus. Any homicidal tyrant could just as easily have their uterous removed as kill the people they put in their uterus.
Time to up your meds, hun.

“Dan IS the Man”

Since: May 12

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#251631 Aug 7, 2012
Katie wrote:
My alarm goes off in a couple hours. I have to get a nap in.
A baby girl is in process of being born right now. Her mother (my daughter) has been laboring all day since early this morning. Thought she'd be here by now, but not yet.
NR will remind you all how I said personally, at viability, I believe it's a baby. Factually, in utero, it's still a fetus, but my personal opinion is it's a baby. I have posted this a bazillion times, but put it out there again for you, BA.
G'night.
Congrats and good luck!

And I agree with you...many of these fundies think we just love love love abortion, which is not true at all.

As an example, I hate alcohol (liquor) with a passion but it's still legal, it'll always be legal, and I don't work against other people's right to have and drink liquor. If I was on some thread arguing for people's freedom to choose to drink liquor beverages these fundies would insist I'm a drunk, even though I do not drink. And they would stupidly conclude that I'm a drunk just because I stand up for other people's freedom to choose for themselves what they want to do, which in that case would be drinking liquor.

Since: Feb 07

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#251632 Aug 7, 2012
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
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Okay. So again, be specific as to why? I said "Not when its in utero prior to viability its not. Its a personal, medical decision that wont have ANY affect on you or me in ANY way."
Why do you think YOU should have a say in the medical decision a woman who you dont know, who you never met, WILL never meet, who's life affects you in NO way, who's medical decision will not affect you in ANY way?
Somewhere in Texas this morning a woman that netiher you nor I will ever meet had an abortion. How exactly do you feel that affected or WILL affect you?
Know I'm being serious and respectful with asking this. I know you and some others really believe what you're saying, and this is something I dont understand.
With all due respect, there are many things that don't affect me directly, but I still feel compelled to to work to eliminate them. Sometimes it's done through my vote, sometimes it's done through more active participation. For example, someone dying from hunger in Africa. I will never KNOW them, but should I consider their death so unimportant that I do nothing? What about the babies and women that died in Gosnell's "clinic", I never KNEW them either. Should I ignore that disgusting example of abuse and do nothing to try to prevent that from happening again? I know that you don't consider the unborn as "people", and by law they are not, but they are human lives and as far as I'm concerned all human life should be protected.

Since: Feb 07

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#251633 Aug 7, 2012
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
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Ahhh! I'm sorry! I misunderstood! Ignore the next post too then LOL!!
No harm, no foul.

Since: Feb 07

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#251634 Aug 7, 2012
Badaxe wrote:
<quoted text>I dont think you can win with these two, if they find them self losing they simply lie or distort what the arguement is about. In CS's case she is simply too stupid to understand how stupid she is, I dont know what Katie's excuse is, I dont remember her twisting things as she has done recently.
Spot on!!!

Since: Feb 07

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#251635 Aug 7, 2012
Badaxe wrote:
<quoted text>What? This from someone who argued for partial birth abortion? The same person who contends that a born baby is not "born" until the cord is cut? And you've also argued that "emotional health" ( a woman not being able to deal emotionally with the fact that she is pregnant, such as too fat, not being able to go out with friends, or just not feeling attractive anymore) is a legitimate reason to abort a viable fetus! Come on Katie, your arguments are about the woman with no regard for the fetus at any point.
"The same person who contends that a born baby is not "born" until the cord is cut?"

Hahaha, I forgot about that one.
Kenose

Westbury, NY

#251636 Aug 7, 2012
SassyJM wrote:
<quoted text>Oh I did. I did. I already explained and apologized. I got in my car,drove to that EXACT location,and started to post as Kenose. Consequently, I got the wrong isp location because my puter was roaming isp location,so,I drove around and stopped at every nearby town UNTIL I saw that exact addy come up.
PRESTO!
:)
true story.
::giggle:::
SassyJM wrote:
<quoted text> My daughters post? What?
Let me guess,...you wrote sassys daughter and pretended to be her,saying some stupid sh*t. Am I right?
Listen "kenose"(lol),you were busted. Why? Because you are too stupid to pretend. You get caught EVERY time you go incognito. Lala-a 24/7,365 days a year,7 yr topix poster suddenly disappears,and in walks KENOSE.
And don't tell me that you know Doc from the Rangers forum. Lala likes the Rangers too.
You're beyond ridiculous. On one hand, you're accusing me of posting as your daughter, from a different IP address than I've ever posted from.... and then when you're accused, it's such a travesty.

Spare us your hypocrisy, Mr. Paradox. Go play on the LIE.

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