Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 310234 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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“...sigh”

Since: Nov 09

Smithtown, NY

#251629 Aug 7, 2012
Katie wrote:
My alarm goes off in a couple hours. I have to get a nap in.
A baby girl is in process of being born right now. Her mother (my daughter) has been laboring all day since early this morning. Thought she'd be here by now, but not yet.
NR will remind you all how I said personally, at viability, I believe it's a baby. Factually, in utero, it's still a fetus, but my personal opinion is it's a baby. I have posted this a bazillion times, but put it out there again for you, BA.
G'night.
woohoo!

Good luck and congrats to you and your family, katie!!!

xoxoxoxo!

(wait for it)

“...sigh”

Since: Nov 09

Smithtown, NY

#251630 Aug 7, 2012
zef wrote:
<quoted text>
Anyone that has a uterous just to have a place to kill innocent people should not be allowed to have a uterus. Any homicidal tyrant could just as easily have their uterous removed as kill the people they put in their uterus.
Time to up your meds, hun.

“Dan IS the Man”

Since: May 12

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#251631 Aug 7, 2012
Katie wrote:
My alarm goes off in a couple hours. I have to get a nap in.
A baby girl is in process of being born right now. Her mother (my daughter) has been laboring all day since early this morning. Thought she'd be here by now, but not yet.
NR will remind you all how I said personally, at viability, I believe it's a baby. Factually, in utero, it's still a fetus, but my personal opinion is it's a baby. I have posted this a bazillion times, but put it out there again for you, BA.
G'night.
Congrats and good luck!

And I agree with you...many of these fundies think we just love love love abortion, which is not true at all.

As an example, I hate alcohol (liquor) with a passion but it's still legal, it'll always be legal, and I don't work against other people's right to have and drink liquor. If I was on some thread arguing for people's freedom to choose to drink liquor beverages these fundies would insist I'm a drunk, even though I do not drink. And they would stupidly conclude that I'm a drunk just because I stand up for other people's freedom to choose for themselves what they want to do, which in that case would be drinking liquor.

Since: Feb 07

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#251632 Aug 7, 2012
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay. So again, be specific as to why? I said "Not when its in utero prior to viability its not. Its a personal, medical decision that wont have ANY affect on you or me in ANY way."
Why do you think YOU should have a say in the medical decision a woman who you dont know, who you never met, WILL never meet, who's life affects you in NO way, who's medical decision will not affect you in ANY way?
Somewhere in Texas this morning a woman that netiher you nor I will ever meet had an abortion. How exactly do you feel that affected or WILL affect you?
Know I'm being serious and respectful with asking this. I know you and some others really believe what you're saying, and this is something I dont understand.
With all due respect, there are many things that don't affect me directly, but I still feel compelled to to work to eliminate them. Sometimes it's done through my vote, sometimes it's done through more active participation. For example, someone dying from hunger in Africa. I will never KNOW them, but should I consider their death so unimportant that I do nothing? What about the babies and women that died in Gosnell's "clinic", I never KNEW them either. Should I ignore that disgusting example of abuse and do nothing to try to prevent that from happening again? I know that you don't consider the unborn as "people", and by law they are not, but they are human lives and as far as I'm concerned all human life should be protected.

Since: Feb 07

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#251633 Aug 7, 2012
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
<quoted text>
Ahhh! I'm sorry! I misunderstood! Ignore the next post too then LOL!!
No harm, no foul.

Since: Feb 07

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#251634 Aug 7, 2012
Badaxe wrote:
<quoted text>I dont think you can win with these two, if they find them self losing they simply lie or distort what the arguement is about. In CS's case she is simply too stupid to understand how stupid she is, I dont know what Katie's excuse is, I dont remember her twisting things as she has done recently.
Spot on!!!

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#251635 Aug 7, 2012
Badaxe wrote:
<quoted text>What? This from someone who argued for partial birth abortion? The same person who contends that a born baby is not "born" until the cord is cut? And you've also argued that "emotional health" ( a woman not being able to deal emotionally with the fact that she is pregnant, such as too fat, not being able to go out with friends, or just not feeling attractive anymore) is a legitimate reason to abort a viable fetus! Come on Katie, your arguments are about the woman with no regard for the fetus at any point.
"The same person who contends that a born baby is not "born" until the cord is cut?"

Hahaha, I forgot about that one.
Kenose

Westbury, NY

#251636 Aug 7, 2012
SassyJM wrote:
<quoted text>Oh I did. I did. I already explained and apologized. I got in my car,drove to that EXACT location,and started to post as Kenose. Consequently, I got the wrong isp location because my puter was roaming isp location,so,I drove around and stopped at every nearby town UNTIL I saw that exact addy come up.
PRESTO!
:)
true story.
::giggle:::
SassyJM wrote:
<quoted text> My daughters post? What?
Let me guess,...you wrote sassys daughter and pretended to be her,saying some stupid sh*t. Am I right?
Listen "kenose"(lol),you were busted. Why? Because you are too stupid to pretend. You get caught EVERY time you go incognito. Lala-a 24/7,365 days a year,7 yr topix poster suddenly disappears,and in walks KENOSE.
And don't tell me that you know Doc from the Rangers forum. Lala likes the Rangers too.
You're beyond ridiculous. On one hand, you're accusing me of posting as your daughter, from a different IP address than I've ever posted from.... and then when you're accused, it's such a travesty.

Spare us your hypocrisy, Mr. Paradox. Go play on the LIE.

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#251637 Aug 7, 2012
Katie wrote:
<quoted text>
OMG! You are as bad as NR with an inability to separate personal from factual. Here's a reality check for you.
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"This from someone who argued for partial birth abortion?"
There is no "partial birth abortion". There was the D&X procedure which was safer for the woman AND allowed her a whole baby to hold and grieve.
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"The same person who contends that a born baby is not "born" until the cord is cut?"
I claimed the birth process separating fetus from baby included cutting the cord and baby breathing.
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"And you've also argued that "emotional health" ( a woman not being able to deal emotionally with the fact that she is pregnant, such as too fat, not being able to go out with friends, or just not feeling attractive anymore) is a legitimate reason to abort a viable fetus!"
I just rewrote that old argument and it sure didn't look like what you wrote above. You don't give psych patients (such as schizophrenics) the seriousness deserved when you compare it with "too fat" or "not being able to go out". But you sure just verified my prior post. Thanks much!
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"Come on Katie, your arguments are about the woman with no regard for the fetus at any point."
Yeah, there's a woman wrapped around that uterus holding an embryo/fetus. A woman seemingly forgotten by you and others like-minded. SHE has an established life, SHE has civil rights. I do not disregard the embryo/fetus, as you try to claim, but I realize if somebody else's pregnancy is unwanted, unhealthy, or potentially fatal, I have absolutely no say-so in their decisions regarding it. None. And if it was me, I wouldn't want anyone else (you, JM, Ink, Sue, NR, etc.) to make the decision for me, either.
"The same person who contends that a born baby is not "born" until the cord is cut?"

1)I thought that it didn't become a baby until it took it's first breath?
2)How special, the woman gets to hold the child that she just paid someone to kill. How special is that?

"I do not disregard the embryo/fetus, as you try to claim, but I realize if somebody else's pregnancy is unwanted,"

Sure you do if you support her right to kill that life just because she doesn't want it.

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#251638 Aug 7, 2012
Badaxe wrote:
<quoted text>I've never argued "psychiatric" reasons should not be considered as mental health, but "psychiatric" and "emotional" can be two very different things. Again, you are trying to portray what my views are from your simplistic generalization of those that dont agree with you. And BTW, I'm tired of arguments from you liberals that say "if the government can regulate abortion than that is the first step in the government forcing abortion", while you idiots support the government taking over the health care industry. What better reason could the government have to force abortion than to cut their cost on health care and support?
"I'm tired of arguments from you liberals that say "if the government can regulate abortion than that is the first step in the government forcing abortion", while you idiots support the government taking over the health care industry. What better reason could the government have to force abortion than to cut their cost on health care and support?"

Excellant point.
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#251639 Aug 7, 2012
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
<quoted text>
I have to disagree...rights are a man-made concept. They don't occur naturally. That is to say, we don't find rights occurring in nature. You even inferred that yourself with the phrase "granting rights..."
Rights cannot be granted. Rights are inherent. I said granting rights is sheer lunacy, I didn't inferr anything.

Human rights are rights inherent to all human beings, whatever our nationality, place of residence, sex, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, language, or any other status.

http://www.ohchr.org/en/issues/Pages/WhatareH...

Inherent Human Rights

Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR)
'PREAMBLE - Whereas recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world,...'
http://www.p10k.net/inherent_human_rights_int...

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#251640 Aug 7, 2012
Katie wrote:
<quoted text>
Um, the countries with socialized medicine do not force abortion. There may be zero restrictions, but this is not the same as forcing. Please provide just one example of forced abortion where socialized medicine is practiced.
China.
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#251641 Aug 7, 2012
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
<quoted text>
You're an idiot. There are not "people killed with abortion" unless it women that are gestating that are murdered.
Only "women that are gestating" are people"? Abortion kills humans, all humans are people, not just "women that are gestating".

people
peo·ple n. pl. people
1. Humans considered as a group or in indefinite numbers
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/people

people noun, plural peo·ples
3. human beings, as distinguished from animals or other beings. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/people

Definition of PEOPLE
1 plural: human beings making up a group or assembly or linked by a common interest
2 plural: human beings, persons
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/peo...
Kenose

Westbury, NY

#251642 Aug 7, 2012
Susanm wrote:
<quoted text>
With all due respect, there are many things that don't affect me directly, but I still feel compelled to to work to eliminate them. Sometimes it's done through my vote, sometimes it's done through more active participation. For example, someone dying from hunger in Africa. I will never KNOW them, but should I consider their death so unimportant that I do nothing? What about the babies and women that died in Gosnell's "clinic", I never KNEW them either. Should I ignore that disgusting example of abuse and do nothing to try to prevent that from happening again? I know that you don't consider the unborn as "people", and by law they are not, but they are human lives and as far as I'm concerned all human life should be protected.
Thanks for sharing your bias that human life is more important than any other.
Kenose

Westbury, NY

#251643 Aug 7, 2012
zef wrote:
<quoted text>
Rights cannot be granted. Rights are inherent. I said granting rights is sheer lunacy, I didn't inferr anything.
Human rights are rights inherent to all human beings, whatever our nationality, place of residence, sex, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, language, or any other status.
http://www.ohchr.org/en/issues/Pages/WhatareH...
Inherent Human Rights
Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR)
'PREAMBLE - Whereas recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world,...'
http://www.p10k.net/inherent_human_rights_int...
You're pretty dense. All those things listed are man-made. You just proved LNM's point.

“Don't kill me mom”

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#251644 Aug 7, 2012
cpeter1313 wrote:
If the doctor believes her the problems her stress are causing outweigh the diminished safeness of a third-trimester abortion, it's fine with me. Most doctors, however, will induce labor or perform a c-section, as it may be less stressful in the long run. Unless one knows the specifics of the case one can only generalize.
Do you think that premature induced labor or c-sections should be elective?
<quoted text>
I didn't mention a woman in distress. I said that a woman just doesn't want another child.

What does stress have to do with killing anyway? Recently a woman threw her two children off a roof top because she decided that she didn't want them anymore. They caused her too much stress. THAT is normal? Kill your child because you don't want them or because you are stressed? What kind of nut are you?

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#251645 Aug 7, 2012
Kenose wrote:
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Thanks for sharing your bias that human life is more important than any other.
Where exactky did you get that from my post?
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#251646 Aug 7, 2012
Kenose wrote:
<quoted text>
You're pretty dense. All those things listed are man-made. You just proved LNM's point.
What things? Made how?

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--"

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/dec...

On December 7, 1941, the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor. On December 23, the Declaration and the Constitution were removed from the shrine and placed between two sheets of acid-free manilla paper. The documents were then carefully wrapped in a container of all-rag neutral millboard and placed in a specially designed bronze container. It was late at night when the container was finally secured with padlocks on each side. Preparations were resumed on the day after Christmas, when the Attorney General ruled that the Librarian needed no "further authority from the Congress or the President" to take such action as he deemed necessary for the "proper protection and preservation" of the documents in his charge.
Kenose

Westbury, NY

#251647 Aug 7, 2012
Susanm wrote:
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Where exactky did you get that from my post?
In the post I quoted today.... plus your posts from Monday and over the weekend. Do you have selective memory too?

Get that dirty diaper changed yet?

“Don't kill me mom”

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#251648 Aug 7, 2012
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
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This is getting ridiculous. There's no end to your "what if" dramas. If women aren't finding out they're pregnant until the 9nth month then there are some other issues going on.
I agree that it is getting ridiculous that I have to keep asking the same questions over and over while you dodge them. As "ridiculous" as you may view my questions,they in fact will prove that you don't mean what you say.

There are many reasons why a woman might find out that she is pregnant at different stages of her pregnancy vs finding out with a first missed period. Regardless,the woman is indeed pregnant and her reasoning for aborting may be the same(i.e she just doesn't want a child). My question to you is WHY do you judge her and not the other? Why don't you support her choices if that is what you are trying to convey here(per your stance)? It doesn't add up.

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