Discussion on Declining African Ameri...

Discussion on Declining African America Enrollment at UVA

There are 27 comments on the NBC29 Charlottesville story from Apr 26, 2013, titled Discussion on Declining African America Enrollment at UVA. In it, NBC29 Charlottesville reports that:

The University and Community Action for Racial Equity, or UCARE , will host a panel discussion about what its members say is an "alarming" drop in enrollment by African American undergraduate students at UVA over the last two decades.

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Praise Be

Bremo Bluff, VA

#1 Apr 29, 2013
This may not be a problem at all. Has anyone considered the possibility that the most talented blacks have opted to go to other universities?
Eaglescout1984

Charlottesville, VA

#2 Apr 29, 2013
Maybe if UVa cared more about educating people right here at home than how much money they can take from Chinese nationals, they would have more room for the blacks (and whites) of our own community.
brad paisley

United States

#3 Apr 29, 2013
hmmmm... could it be because tuition has increased dramatically every year while black employment and income has declined?

could it be that UVA has always been a school for the upper middle class which predominantly consists of white people?

could it be that most blacks just are not comfortable wearing pink shorts, bowties, visors, and loafers without socks?

could the same article be written about the lack of white students at VSU or VUU?

I don't know the answers but I predict many racist postings regarding this article are about to be typed by our most ignorant and uninformed citizens.
Lollie

Charlottesville, VA

#4 Apr 29, 2013
Hmmm... sounds like they are smarter than you think Miss UCARE. Did it ever occur to your group that we don't want diversity? That we don't want to go to an expensive northern liberal philosophy college but would rather go to a southern college that is more in line with the way we were raised? Shame on us for choosing another college other than UVA.
Wise One

Charlottesville, VA

#5 Apr 29, 2013
ON LINE IS THE PROBLEM. Why would they want to pay the big money to come here to this TOWN when they can get it almost free ON LINE and stay at home and don't have to pay for a place to stay and get the same piece of paper to put on the wall with UVA on it to show how they can get the same job as the ones coming here. ON LINE is going to bite UVA in the butt and take away a lot of money and jobs down the road. So hold on workers because jobs is going to get but on the old chopping block. Don't hate the words just saying and face the problem coming real soon. ON LINE is nice and easy and a little cost so hold on for the short ride before this become a big problem for UVA cash problems and for the workers. This problem wasn't bad until this ON LINE came about so stop and smell WHAT'S COOKING.
o b a m o supporter

Merrillville, IN

#6 Apr 29, 2013
Would it not be better to focus the attention on something else? Since UVA dropped their standards, why would "smart" African Americans want to go there. They can do so much better. Other African Americans that are not as qualified are simply not eligible to attend. I guess UVA could drop their standards to be more in line with Piedmont for the African Americans.
Mike

Scottsville, VA

#7 Apr 29, 2013
I'm black and I want nothing to do with UVa. Forcing more blacks into UVA.....? We were forced into boats a while back and set sail to America, no fun yo.
Trouble Organizing

San Antonio, TX

#8 Apr 29, 2013
Praise Be wrote:
This may not be a problem at all. Has anyone considered the possibility that the most talented blacks have opted to go to other universities?
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I agree. Also, UVA only accepts one out of every three people who apply. Those are tough standards and I'm assuming they are used fairly and equally regardless of race.

The current composition at UVA is 55% female, and 45% male. Why isn't this an issue?
huck

Charlottesville, VA

#9 Apr 29, 2013
Trouble Organizing wrote:
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I agree. Also, UVA only accepts one out of every three people who apply. Those are tough standards and I'm assuming they are used fairly and equally regardless of race.
The current composition at UVA is 55% female, and 45% male. Why isn't this an issue?
women are smarter
Jim Beam

Richmond, VA

#10 Apr 29, 2013
This story is so poorly written it's sad. Doesn't anybody proofread these before posting them?
Just Checking

Herndon, VA

#11 Apr 29, 2013
You can't be considered for or accepted to the institution if you do not submit an application.
Former frat Brat

Bethesda, MD

#12 Apr 29, 2013
So the percentage dropped but the population increased.... so what are the actual numbers in direct comparison.

Also... did they have affirmative action in 1995 which is now illegal?

...and one more thing... this discussion will lead to people wanting to "fix" it at someone elses expense... so who do you suppose they will try and "bump" to make room?

Its a good thing white males can make it despite the discrimination. Just as we have since the days when we were enslaved and oppressed.
oldman

Esmont, VA

#13 Apr 29, 2013
I hope the UCARE finds the answer to this question (because it certainly isn't anywhere in these postings).
sez you

Charlottesville, VA

#15 Apr 29, 2013
Anyone can offer moronic excuses for why enrollment is down at UVA. But, facts are facts. Bob Friedman, president of PVCC, stated in an interview, TWO years ago that enrollment of African Americans at PVCC was well under the norm and greatly below what the enrollment numbers should be for this area. When you look at the drop out rates in high school for blacks are, look at crime statistics for blacks are(can't go to college from jail), when you look at the intimidation towards black students who want to learn, by other blacks, refering to them as Uncle Toms, then you see that, it is no surprise that blacks are well under represented in colleges and universties. Bottom line? thats the way they want it. You get exactly what you don't ask for.
martin

Winchester, VA

#16 Apr 29, 2013
oldman wrote:
I hope the UCARE finds the answer to this question (because it certainly isn't anywhere in these postings).
Answer:
The african american community is becoming more conservitive.
Intelligence

Crozet, VA

#17 Apr 29, 2013
Why do we care what color the pigment in the students' skin is? Let's focus more on moral character and not race. Hell they can be green and purple if they are good people who cares!
Scotchville

Charlottesville, VA

#18 Apr 29, 2013
It's their choice if colored people don't want higher education!
sez you

Charlottesville, VA

#19 Apr 29, 2013
Intelligence wrote:
Why do we care what color the pigment in the students' skin is? Let's focus more on moral character and not race. Hell they can be green and purple if they are good people who cares!
Very true and the sentiment is nice but statistics speek for themselves. And they know it. What do you think the average black man has to live with knowing that the average white person thinks they are some kind of crook, or has been, or will be? Heavy load.
Rumplestiltsken

Charlottesville, VA

#20 Apr 29, 2013
Just Checking wrote:
You can't be considered for or accepted to the institution if you do not submit an application.
Yes. UVA graduates.
Mark

Charlottesville, VA

#21 Apr 29, 2013
I find it interesting to see all the 'why should they care' statements. There are a couple of reasons to care I haven't heard mentioning:

1.) If it is caused by a lack of qualified applicants:
a.) is there a correctable difference in education for underrepresented groups? No Child Left Behind (NCLB) should, in theory, address this, but NCLB only sets minimum standards.
b.) is there a perception that the University is unwelcoming? If so, they want to fix either the perception, or if justified, the causes.

2.) Is it caused by qualified applicants getting better financial aid offers elsewhere? Are the University's offers fair and appropriate?

That there is a difference may or may not indicate a problem the institution can fix. But it certainly should lead to the institution examining the causes, and consciously deciding if this is something that should be addressed as a problem/opportunity or not.

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