Pac-12 Fines USC's Kiffin, Suspends McDonald

Southern California coach Lane Kiffin has been fined $10,000 by the Pac-12 for criticizing officials after Saturday's triple-overtime loss to No.

[Pongo]

Kiffin is a crybaby ---

[Chosen Traveler]

Kiffin is a WINNER. In his second year of an inherited team on NCAA sanctions, and the Trojans are 6-2 and it took the team with the longest winning streak in the Nation 3 overtimes to muster up a win. Stanford left the Coliseum with renewed respect for the Trojans. Ask Andrew Luck himself!

FIGHT ON

[Bruin Nation]

Chosen Traveler wrote:

Kiffin is a WINNER. In his second year of an inherited team on NCAA sanctions, and the Trojans are 6-2 and it took the team with the longest winning streak in the Nation 3 overtimes to muster up a win. Stanford left the Coliseum with renewed respect for the Trojans. Ask Andrew Luck himself!
FIGHT ON

Hell CT you could be 6 & 2 with this team,

[jesco]

Even though both teams play in a weak conference unlike the strong SEC, USC got screwed by the refs.

[Bruin Nation]

jesco wrote:

Even though both teams play in a weak conference unlike the strong SEC, USC got screwed by the refs.

really did you watch the game, There we many "holding" call not called on USC, it all evens out.

[jesco]

Bruin Nation wrote:

<quoted text>really did you watch the game, There we many "holding" call not called on USC, it all evens out.

There's a hold on everyplay. Not only was he oob but Kiffin called timeout.

[Chosen Traveler]

Bruin Nation wrote:

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Hell CT you could be 6 & 2 with this team,

I guess by (B)ruin logic, Kiffin should not have this success until year five or six of his coaching term. So how long you gonna give that NewHeistal anyway? I hope another six more years. HaHaHa

[Chosen Traveler]

jesco wrote:

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There's a hold on everyplay. Not only was he oob but Kiffin called timeout.

Thanks jesco, but the (B)ruin fans out here are so full of hatred that they would never see it that way. They are still mad at us because we hurt their lil feelings when we threw for a touchdown late because their coach called a meaningless timeout to prolong a game that was already out of reach for his failure (B)ruins.

[jesco]

Chosen Traveler wrote:

<quoted text>Thanks jesco, but the (B)ruin fans out here are so full of hatred that they would never see it that way. They are still mad at us because we hurt their lil feelings when we threw for a touchdown late because their coach called a meaningless timeout to prolong a game that was already out of reach for his failure (B)ruins.

Lol I remember that.

[Bill R]

jesco wrote:

Even though both teams play in a weak conference unlike the strong SEC, USC got screwed by the refs.

You'll have to explain to me why, if the SEC is so strong, 5
SEC teams were ranked lower than Utah (0-4 in the PAC12 until
last Saturday) in Sagarin's rankings.

You'll also have to explain how it is that, if the SEC is so great,
3 of the 8 schools with the worst records since 2002 are SEC
schools. Yep ....#2 Vanderbilt (31-76),#6 Mississippi State
(43-73), and #8 Kentucky (45-59).

[Bill R]

jesco wrote:

Even though both teams play in a weak conference unlike the strong SEC, USC got screwed by the refs.

I forgot to ask you how many conferences have 3 teams with
no wins (zero) in conference play? Just one .... the SEC.

It works out pretty well .... with maybe 2 exceptions, schedule
patsies for your OOC games, beat 3 patsies in conference and
BINGO!... you are bowl eligible!

Also forgot to ask why it is that the "primo" SEC schools
rarely agree to a "home and home" agreement? Will Georgia
play against Boise in Boise next fall? Will LSU go to Eugene
to play at Autzen?

[Chosen Traveler]

Gee Bill R, you are bringing up some very interesting and valid points!!!

GO BILL R

[jesco]

Bill R wrote:

<quoted text>I forgot to ask you how many conferences have 3 teams with
no wins (zero) in conference play? Just one .... the SEC.

It works out pretty well .... with maybe 2 exceptions, schedule
patsies for your OOC games, beat 3 patsies in conference and
BINGO!... you are bowl eligible!

Also forgot to ask why it is that the "primo" SEC schools
rarely agree to a "home and home" agreement? Will Georgia
play against Boise in Boise next fall? Will LSU go to Eugene
to play at Autzen?

Who has won 5 of last 6 titles idiot. And 40% of the BCS top 10 is SEC. Until u can beat one of us shut the Fu ck up.

[Bill R]

jesco wrote:

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Who has won 5 of last 6 titles idiot. And 40% of the BCS top 10 is SEC. Until u can beat one of us shut the Fu ck up.

This may be a little sophisticated for an SEC brainwashed
fool like yourself, but when you evaluate or, for that
matter, validate a team you do so by considering their
entire body of work. "National championships" are just
one part of that "body of work."

To wit, Jesco, Auburn's victory over Oregon validated
Auburn's claim of being better than Oregon. It does not,
however, make Vanderbilt better than Stanford. It does
not make Georgia better than USC. Such claims are just
puffery unless Vandy plays Stanford and Georgia plays
USC.

Hate to say it, but the fact is that Auburn was in the
NC last year only because they beat their competition in
the SEC. That's to their credit, but it does not make
the other SEC teams better than the then PAC-10 better
than the teams Oregon beat in winning the PAC-10 title.
Auburn hung a bunch of losses on their SEC buddies and
Oregon went thru their PAC-10 schedule undefeated. Get
my drift? Probably not given that SEC schools, apart from
Vanderbilt, are an intellectual wasteland.

By the way, I haven't missed the fact that your only
counter to my points was that a) an SEC team won the BCS
NC title (not the SEC) and that b) your most sophisticated
manner of expressing yourself is to use the F-word.

You didn't address a single point I raised with a
mature answer. Do you wish to deny that 3 of the 8 worst
schools since 2002 are SEC schools? Do you wish to deny
that SEC schools avoid "home and home" games with schools
like Boise State, Oregon, USC, Stanford, etc.?

[Bill R]

One more point, Jesco, before I move on to better
arguments than you have presented here .... F-words
are demerits in adult circles.

Do you believe SEC teams would be held in awe if
their games began at 10 PM while most of the
sportswriters and fans had watched 2 PAC-12 games
at 9 AM and 1 PM?

What I am saying here is that more than 60% of
those casting votes in the polls live in the
East or Central time zones. How many of them,
after watching football from around noon, stayed
up to watch Arizona State vs. Washington?

My point: They don't. They have their opinions
formed and do nothing more than check the stats
on the games they missed. BTW, that explains why
Oregon State has gotten votes on the Top 25 when
they have been sub-.500. East Coasters don't
know the difference between Oregon and Oregon
State.

To be fair: If Hawaii had the best team in the
country and played their games on Hawaii time,
would any of us know?

[jesco]

Bill R wrote:

One more point, Jesco, before I move on to better
arguments than you have presented here .... F-words
are demerits in adult circles.

Do you believe SEC teams would be held in awe if
their games began at 10 PM while most of the
sportswriters and fans had watched 2 PAC-12 games
at 9 AM and 1 PM?

What I am saying here is that more than 60% of
those casting votes in the polls live in the
East or Central time zones. How many of them,
after watching football from around noon, stayed
up to watch Arizona State vs. Washington?

My point: They don't. They have their opinions
formed and do nothing more than check the stats
on the games they missed. BTW, that explains why
Oregon State has gotten votes on the Top 25 when
they have been sub-.500. East Coasters don't
know the difference between Oregon and Oregon
State.

To be fair: If Hawaii had the best team in the
country and played their games on Hawaii time,
would any of us know?

Yankees rule. No one cares about the PAC 10 cuz y'all suck. SEC Fu cking rules.

[jesco]

San Jose State, Duke, Colorado? That's who Stanford has beaten?try a schedule with 4 top 10 teams then u can talk idiot. Think ne one cares who Stanford or Oregon plays this weekend? No, it's all eyes on Bama n LSU. Ur still an idiot. It takes u a page of explanations to defend ur PAC 10, it takes me one sentence... SEC is the best.

[Chosen Traveler]

jesco wrote:

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Yankees rule. No one cares about the PAC 10 cuz y'all suck. SEC Fu cking rules.

Thats the Pac12 BTW, and we certainly do not suck (read some player stats). Logisitcs does not allow East Coast biased media to partake in late West Coast games. They are all already tucked in bed, their stomaches trying to digest biscuits smothered in artery clogging gravy.

[Goober Hull]

Bill R wrote:

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You'll have to explain to me why, if the SEC is so strong, 5
SEC teams were ranked lower than Utah (0-4 in the PAC12 until
last Saturday) in Sagarin's rankings.
You'll also have to explain how it is that, if the SEC is so great,
3 of the 8 schools with the worst records since 2002 are SEC
schools. Yep ....#2 Vanderbilt (31-76),#6 Mississippi State
(43-73), and #8 Kentucky (45-59).

they have a heap of natl champs

[Chosen Traveler]

Goober Hull wrote:

<quoted text>they have a heap of natl champs

I agree that alone is the ultimate criteria for justification.