Relevance of Civil War Monuments Up for Debate

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Organizers say the discussion was important after Vice Mayor Kristin Szakos faced strong criticism for questioning the relevance of the confederate statues.
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JCS

Charlottesville, VA

#1 Jan 20, 2013
"The commemorative landscape - it's kind of a buzz word among scholars nowadays - should be inclusive that we do better by adding rather than subtracting, but that the landscape should collectively who we are currently but also who we have been over the long haul," said John Coski, the Museum of the Confederacy Historian.

Ms. Vu: What is wrong with this sentence between the words "collectively" and "who"?

Where is the proof reader?
excop

Charlottesville, VA

#2 Jan 20, 2013
The statues do not fit in the liberal agenda of charlottesburg anymore.
sez you

Charlottesville, VA

#3 Jan 20, 2013
excop wrote:
The statues do not fit in the liberal agenda of charlottesburg anymore.
The statues do not reflect any sane human emotion other than greed and ignorance. Why do the animals of the KKK wear hoods? Shame. The statues reflect an era when slavery was still idolized, time for their demise.

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Whoa Stop the Clock

Waynesboro, VA

#4 Jan 20, 2013
I am sick and tired of these outsiders f*ing with the history of Virginia. Go away.....go back to your pansy, rainbow, sissy, lazy, socialist places. I wonder why there is so much separation in this country....people trying to disrupt the way people have always lived their lives in order to suit their own agenda. We do not need or want your progressive ways.
Whoa Stop the Clock

Waynesboro, VA

#5 Jan 20, 2013
I am enjoying my four days off because we celebrate Lee-Jackson Day and King Day. Thank you Virginia!
TEX

Rocky Mount, VA

#6 Jan 20, 2013
maybe we can erect a few memorials to the slaughter of the innocents (the unborn victims the liberals)
TEX

Rocky Mount, VA

#7 Jan 20, 2013
of the liberals
G Luv

Charlottesville, VA

#8 Jan 20, 2013
Whoa Stop the Clock wrote:
I wonder why there is so much separation in this country...
Really? Do you even read your own posts?
Intelligence

Charlottesville, VA

#9 Jan 20, 2013
This story told us nothing. What was decided? What was said? What was discussed?
CvilleMechEngr

Charlottesville, VA

#10 Jan 20, 2013
What is the point of this discussion? The statues have been in place for decades. Is somebody going to propose that they be torn down? Will we rewrite history to pretend the Civil War never happened?

If Ms.Szakos wants to cheer the masses into an orgy of self-flagellation that's fine for her and fine for them, but it doesn't work for me.

The same people who would see the statues go are the same people who say that the guns must be collected. These are the people who would hire the men with guns to collect the guns and hire the men with guns to tear down the statues. These folks would never attempt to do these things themselves. What they would ultimately do is find themselves living in a tyranny of their own creation with no means to defend themselves.

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sez you

Charlottesville, VA

#11 Jan 20, 2013
CvilleMechEngr wrote:
What is the point of this discussion? The statues have been in place for decades. Is somebody going to propose that they be torn down? Will we rewrite history to pretend the Civil War never happened?
If Ms.Szakos wants to cheer the masses into an orgy of self-flagellation that's fine for her and fine for them, but it doesn't work for me.
The same people who would see the statues go are the same people who say that the guns must be collected. These are the people who would hire the men with guns to collect the guns and hire the men with guns to tear down the statues. These folks would never attempt to do these things themselves. What they would ultimately do is find themselves living in a tyranny of their own creation with no means to defend themselves.
Norway and other progressive societies in Europe do just fine without the wild west mentality. Oh, your gonna tell me to go there? nope, I'm staying here and do what I can to bring civility to this backward country.

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Guardian

Rocky Mount, VA

#12 Jan 20, 2013
Unfortunately for Charlottesville liberals, history can't be changed because of any liberal consensus. Do the Virginia Democrats really want to bring out ALL their dirty laundry and hang it up in public, I didn't think so.
Why Work In Cville

Charlottesville, VA

#13 Jan 20, 2013
First let's discuss the relevance of the revisionist historians that comprise the city council.

Why not erect a statue in front of the Haven that depicts a professional beggar that has a forty ounce bottle in his back pocket with hand extended outward, palm up for all eternity, as a sign of what the new Charlottesville has become? That should certainly salve the tortured liberal consciences of those that don't work and can attend mall vigils and Haven group gropes on a 24/7 basis.
Why Work In Cville

Charlottesville, VA

#14 Jan 20, 2013
sez you wrote:
<quoted text>Norway and other progressive societies in Europe do just fine without the wild west mentality. Oh, your gonna tell me to go there? nope, I'm staying here and do what I can to bring civility to this backward country.
The wild west mentality entailed everybody working a 70 or 80 hour work week on a cattle drive or working a farm or ranch. I sure don't see that kind of grueling work ethic here in SSDI heaven where the latte liberals live in their parent's basement and are content to work 12 hours a week in a job that a trained chimp would quickly get bored with.
Why Work In Cville

Charlottesville, VA

#15 Jan 21, 2013
sez you wrote:
<quoted text>Norway and other progressive societies in Europe do just fine without the wild west mentality. Oh, your gonna tell me to go there? nope, I'm staying here and do what I can to bring civility to this backward country.
Your progressive societies in Europe are in a Euro currency crisis that is on life support from the banks in China, US and other places.
citizen

Charlottesville, VA

#16 Jan 21, 2013
Thinking like this mandates that we rename Monticello as being the Haven.
Triple Tint Jademobile

Charlottesville, VA

#17 Jan 21, 2013
The two statues provide a lot of shade to the forty ounce fraternity that spend their wasted lives lounging in Lee Park and by the court house.
american citizen

United States

#18 Jan 21, 2013
sez you wrote:
<quoted text>Norway and other progressive societies in Europe do just fine without the wild west mentality. Oh, your gonna tell me to go there? nope, I'm staying here and do what I can to bring civility to this backward country.
Norway...what a joke. you have to go to the police station and give them your current address and then tell them where you are moving to before you move. No freedom there.
Eaglescout1984

Charlottesville, VA

#19 Jan 21, 2013
sez you wrote:
<quoted text>Norway and other progressive societies in Europe do just fine without the wild west mentality. Oh, your gonna tell me to go there? nope, I'm staying here and do what I can to bring civility to this backward country.
The "wild" west is a myth. There was no such thing until radio and Hollywood wrote scripts about murdering outlaws and gun-slinging heroes to captivate audiences. Maybe if you attempted to learn history rather than try and censor it, you would capable of carrying on an informed discussion.
localist

Palmyra, VA

#20 Jan 21, 2013
Most who fought and died for the Confederacy did not own slaves, nor did they consider slavery at the core of their service. For the majority of those in the South, the Civil War was about states' rights and protection of local natural resources and crops that the North desired for its own. Slavery was an ugly, barbaric reality in the South, but its horror was not subscribed to by the majority of Southerners.

Altering, minimizing, softening, removing, or harmonizing Charlottesville's Civil War monuments would consist of well-intentioned but misguided actions that ignore the more pervasive, yet less sensational, facts surrounding core conflicts and issues of the Civil War.

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