The Better Football Conference: PAC-1...

The Better Football Conference: PAC-10 or SEC?

There are 49309 comments on the ArmchairGM story from Aug 22, 2007, titled The Better Football Conference: PAC-10 or SEC?. In it, ArmchairGM reports that:

“Who has the better conference?”

Another college football season approaches and the debate rages on... who has the better conference SEC or PAC 10 . via ArmchairGM

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“Blue Jean Baby..”

Since: Oct 08

LA lady..

#48381 Jan 2, 2013
BigDan wrote:
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how did your team do?
Happy New Year BigDan! Good luck to your team!

“SEC = Bandwagon”

Since: Dec 06

Cleveland, Ms,

#48382 Jan 2, 2013
Crazy Beautiful wrote:
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Happy New Year BigDan! Good luck to your team!
Thanks

“Media Darling USC! BRAAHAHAHA!”

Since: Jan 07

I'm Blessed to Live In DIXIE!

#48386 Jan 3, 2013
Crazy Beautiful wrote:
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Happy New Year BigDan! Good luck to your team!
> Hey Beautiful, how are ya?
>:)

“Media Darling USC! BRAAHAHAHA!”

Since: Jan 07

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#48388 Jan 4, 2013
> Clown, you better get on the stick! Ambassador Artie was on a political thread earlier, and some fourth term politician had over 86,000 posts. You should be able to catch him by Sunday night!
>;)

“Media Darling USC! BRAAHAHAHA!”

Since: Jan 07

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#48389 Jan 4, 2013
Matt from Columbus wrote:
Here is something BigDan will appreciate.
This history:
In 1987, ND beat Michigan State at home, scoring 31 points.
In 2011, ND beat Michigan State at home, scoring 31 points.
In 1987, ND finished the season with 8 wins.
In 2011, ND finished the season with 8 wins.
In 1987, ND lost their bowl game, a game they led early on.
In 2011, ND lost their bowl game, a game they led early on.
In 1987, ND lost their all-time leading receiver, Tim Brown, to graduation.
In 2011, ND lost their all-time leading receiver, Michael Floyd, to graduation.
In 1988, the ND QB was Tony Rice, who was from South Carolina . He started his 3rd career game against Michigan State in East Lansing . ND beat Michigan State by a score of 20-3. The star of the game was Notre Dame's defense, which held the Spartans to 89 yards rushing for the game. Defensive captain Michael Stonebreaker intercepted a pass in the 4th quarter to seal the win.
In 2012, the ND QB is Everett Golson, who is from South Carolina . He started his 3rd career game against Michigan State in East Lansing . ND beat Michigan State by a score of 20-3. The star of the game was Notre Dame's defense, which held the Spartans to 78 yards rushing for the game. Defensive captain Manti Te'o intercepted a pass in the 4th quarter to seal the win.
In 1988, Lou Holtz suspended his starting running back for the last game of the season, the farthest road game of the year.
In 2012, Brian Kelly suspended his starting running back for the first game of the season, the farthest road game of the year.
In 1988, Notre Dame defeated their highest ranked road opponent (USC) by 17 points (27-10).
In 2012, Notre Dame defeated their highest ranked road opponent ( Oklahoma ) by 17 points (30-13).
Only two coaches in the history of Notre Dame have recorded 12-0 records — Lou Holtz in 1988 and Brian Kelly in 2012.
In 1988, Lou Holtz was in his third season.
In 2012, Brian Kelly is in his third season.
In 1988, Lou Holtz won his second Coach of the Year award.
In 2012, Brian Kelly won his second Coach of the Year award.
Notre Dame won the 1988 National Championship game at Sun Devil Stadium in Tempe, Arizona .
Notre Dame will play the 2012 BCS Championship game at Sun Life Stadium in Miami, Florida .
There are exactly 5 letters in the city names and 7 letters in the state names of those two locations.
In 1988, Miami was the defending national champion, winner of two national titles in the past five years.
In 2012, Alabama is the defending national champion, winner of two national titles in the past five years.
Miami was 37-5 in the 42 games played before meeting Notre Dame.
Alabama is 37-5 in the 42 games played before meeting Notre Dame.
In 1988, Jimmy Johnson’s winning percentage at Miami was .843 (43-8) before playing Notre Dame. After losing to Notre Dame, it was .827.
In 2012, Nick Saban’s winning percentage at Alabama is .837 (67-13) before playing Notre Dame. If Notre Dame wins, his winning percentage will be .827.
Brian Kelly and Lou Holtz were born 24 years apart.
Their first seasons at Notre Dame were exactly 24 years apart.
It's been exactly 24 years since Notre Dame won their last National Championship.
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#48391 Jan 4, 2013
I will make this statement Oklahoma wouldn't beat Alabama, UGA, LSU, Florida or South Carolina and theirs nobody that can tell me different on this. Texas A&M beat a awful overrated Oklahoma team.

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#48392 Jan 4, 2013
UGA 1 wrote:
I will make this statement Oklahoma wouldn't beat Alabama, UGA, LSU, Florida or South Carolina and theirs nobody that can tell me different on this. Texas A&M beat a awful overrated Oklahoma team.
> You're right, UGA! Coach Artie has been saying for years that Choklahoma is the most overrated CFB team in the country ... even beating out USC!

Watch out for A&M next season ... they should be right in the middle of the SEC Championship & BCS Championship hunt. Johnny Manziel is one heck of a football player ... talent gone wild!
>:)

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#48394 Jan 5, 2013
ART DECO MAN wrote:
<quoted text>> You're right, UGA! Coach Artie has been saying for years that Choklahoma is the most overrated CFB team in the country ... even beating out USC!
Watch out for A&M next season ... they should be right in the middle of the SEC Championship & BCS Championship hunt. Johnny Manziel is one heck of a football player ... talent gone wild!
>:)
Yes A&M should have a chance or at least be in the running next year but one things for sure A&M will replace the longhorns at the top of TEXAS before it's over imo.

“Media Darling USC! BRAAHAHAHA!”

Since: Jan 07

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#48395 Jan 5, 2013
UGA 1 wrote:
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Yes A&M should have a chance or at least be in the running next year but one things for sure A&M will replace the longhorns at the top of TEXAS before it's over imo.
> Personally, Coach Artie thinks A&M has already replaced Texass as Top-Dog in the state! If you were a recruit in the state of Texas ... wouldn't you want to play for a team that's in the Supreme College Football Conference in the nation, The SEC?
>:)

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#48396 Jan 5, 2013
UGA 1 wrote:
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I think the NC game will be a good one myself.
> Me too ... for Alabama!
>:)

“Media Darling USC! BRAAHAHAHA!”

Since: Jan 07

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#48397 Jan 5, 2013
just saw it wrote:
Oh yeah les miles just handed the game away right there. What a stupid idiot.
You got a 2 pt lead and a minute and a half of time and this retard is calling passes???
Wtf? I'd fire his dumb ass if I was his boss.
> Unfortunately, Les "Brains - Dreary" Miles' boss is as idiotic as him!
>:(
the sec wins this

Dothan, AL

#48401 Jan 6, 2013
Wild Bill - USC wrote:
Tigers 2004 Champs: I appreciate your recognition of USC. I will say LSU is a good team also. I will say the SEC is a good conference, as well as the Big Ten, and Big 12. But the Pac 10 is every bit as good as each one I have mentioned. Every Conference has its up and down years. The pac 10 will have an above average year this year I believe. You also say " Where are all of SC's prized players from ??? OH the South East ". Yes, several of them are, But the biggest majority of the 1st and 2nd String on O & D is PAC 10 COUNTRY.Also several are from the North East, Mid West ant etc. Tells me the best players in the country want to come to USC. I know it must be extreemly hard to accept. GOOO SC FIGHT ON
one the tide wins by 10 at the end.
yes johnny is

Dothan, AL

#48402 Jan 6, 2013
ART DECO MAN wrote:
<quoted text>> You're right, UGA! Coach Artie has been saying for years that Choklahoma is the most overrated CFB team in the country ... even beating out USC!
Watch out for A&M next season ... they should be right in the middle of the SEC Championship & BCS Championship hunt. Johnny Manziel is one heck of a football player ... talent gone wild!
>:)
one good ball player it reminds me back in the days of montana, theisman .and one good player i saw running the triple option and also played when the college had tear away jersey back in the years 78 and 79 and i think they won 2 national championship he was a good runner and passer.
tide needs no

Dothan, AL

#48405 Jan 7, 2013
Unlike championship rival Alabama, the team doctor for Notre Dame football, Dr. James Moriarity, told ABC News he does not rule out the "occasional use" of the controversial painkiller Toradol on game days to treat Fighting Irish players if "medically indicated."i hear this maybe hurt some people.will you use painkiller when you play the tide?

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Since: Dec 06

Columbus, OH

#48406 Jan 7, 2013
Tide will probably win tonight but I'm rooting for the Irish. I would love to see some change on the college football horizon, as most people in the country do.
tide needs none

Dothan, AL

#48407 Jan 7, 2013
they go out of the game. if they cant maybe stand a little pain.that toradol maybe could hurt someone why would a hurt player play if they hurt to bad to play without taking toradol.
DaveMC inThe Grey

San Diego, CA

#48408 Jan 7, 2013
The big 12 made the PAC-12 look silly this year in bowl games...and Alabama is the last team that can save face for the SEC...unless you consider what A&M did to OU and lets be honest...that was really two Big 12 teams facing off...I hope the SEC doesnt pin all of their glory on a former Big 12 team converted to SEC...
rider

Marquette, MI

#48409 Jan 7, 2013
www.forbes.com/sites/.../12/.../the-problem-w...
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Dec 6, 2012 – That Penn State scandal was the backdrop for the 2012 college football season, the very one that Notre Dame has dominated from start to
do you

Dothan, AL

#48410 Jan 7, 2013
rider wrote:
www.forbes.com/sites/.../12/.. ./the-problem-with-notre-dame- football...Cached
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have to get a toradol to play football if yall hurt you need to sit the game out till you get well.look at the news about toradol and the irish read this maybe yall will not have to use tordal to maybe play football get well before you play.
rider

Marquette, MI

#48412 Jan 7, 2013
Well, since you asked — and many of my friends have, some more than once — no, I will not be cheering for my alma mater, the University of Notre Dame, to win big-time college football’s championship on Jan. 7.What’s really surprising me are those who believe as I do — that two Notre Dame players have committed serious criminal acts, sexual assault in one case and rape in another — but assumed that I’d support the team anyway, just as it is.“Aren’t you just a little bit excited?” one asked the other day. There are plenty of good guys on the team, too, I’m repeatedly told. And oh, that Manti Te’o is inspiring.I don’t doubt it. But as a thought exercise, how many predators would have to be on the team before you’d no longer feel like cheering?Sexual violations of all kinds happen on every campus, I know, and neither man will ever be found guilty in court; one of the victims is dead and the other, according to the Notre Dame student who drove her to the emergency room afterward, in February 2011, decided to keep her mouth shut at least in part because she’d seen what happened to the first woman.Neither player has ever even been named, and won’t be here either, because neither was charged with a crime.The Department of Education’s civil rights office is well aware of the second case, though; in fact, federal investigators were on campus when it occurred, as part of a seven-month investigation into the way Notre Dame handles such reports.Two years ago, Lizzy Seeberg, a 19-year-old freshman at Saint Mary’s College, across the street from Notre Dame, committed suicide after accusing a Notre Dame football player of sexually assaulting her.The friend Lizzy told immediately afterward said she was crying so hard she was having trouble breathing.Yet after Lizzy went to the police, a friend of the player’s sent her a series of texts that frightened her as much as anything that had happened in the player’s dorm room.“Don’t do anything you would regret,” one of them said.“Messing with Notre Dame football is a bad idea.”At the time of her death, 10 days after reporting the attack to campus police, who have jurisdiction for even the most serious crimes on school property, investigators still had not interviewed the accused. It took them five more days after her death to get around to that, though they investigated Lizzy herself quite thoroughly, even debriefing a former roommate at another school with whom she’d clashed.Six months later — after the story had become national news — Notre Dame did convene a closed-door disciplinary hearing. There, the player testified that until he actually met with police, he hadn’t even known why they wanted to speak to him, though his buddy down the hall who’d warned Lizzy not to mess with Notre Dame football had spoken to the cops 13 days earlier. The player was found “not responsible,” and never sat out a game.A few months later, a resident assistant in a Notre Dame dorm drove a freshman to the hospital for a rape exam after receiving an S.O.S. call.“She said she’d been raped by a member of the football team at a party off campus,” the RA told me. I also spoke to the RA’s parents, who met the young woman that same night, when their daughter took her to their home after leaving the hospital. They said they saw — and reported to athletic officials — a hailstorm of texts from other players, warning the young woman not to report what had happened.“They were trying to silence this girl,” the RA’s father told me. And did; no criminal complaint was ever filed.

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