Daly: Cut Serbia aid if thug walks free

Daly: Cut Serbia aid if thug walks free

There are 242 comments on the New York Daily News story from Jun 29, 2008, titled Daly: Cut Serbia aid if thug walks free. In it, New York Daily News reports that:

The house of Peter and Branka Kovacevic, parents of basketball thug, Miladin Kovacevic, in Kula, Serbia.

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Ozzy

Sydney, Australia

#21 Jul 2, 2008
Edward wrote:
@Stefan
Why do Serb always claim that Serbia ia a multi-ethnic country???
Only Vojvodina is multiethnic but Hungarians,Croats and people of other nationalities are still being beaten up by Serbs.Mostly by Serbs that were settled there to create a majority in Vojvodina Autonomus Province.
ur a fool. look at the demographics of serbia, and then take a look at croatia, albania, kosovo etc. croatia is almost en ethnically pure state, only serbia has a mix.

as for vojvodina, that prick who reckons its hungary, go back to hungary if you dont like living in serbia
Ozzy

Sydney, Australia

#22 Jul 2, 2008
Vojvodinian wrote:
I'm from Vojvodina which is a former Yugoslav republic occupied by Serbia. This thug's current house is in Kula - a small town in Vojvodina. This guy and his family are just one of many thousands Serbs brought to Vojvodina from Bosnia, Croatia, Montenegro and Kosovo in order to suppress Vojvodinians just as China does it in Tibet.
Family of this thug is connected with Serbian secret police which is on top of organized crime, including everything from looting ethically cleaned villages all over former Yugoslavia to drug dealing, hiding war criminals or blunt theft of whole funds and savings of citizens of Vojvodina.
What I'm trying to point out that things like this one wouldn't happen if US didn't allow Serbia to continue with rape of Vojvodina which goes on for almost a century. We had a referendum in 2006, we've rejected to be part of Serbia and despite results of referendum US allowed Serbia to ignore our will.
Everyone consider Kosovo as last problem on Balkans but it surely is not. The thug in focus is just one representative of population that tortures Vojvodina and its citizens. I'd like to say "Open your eyes DC, open your eyes USA, before it becomes too late".
In the name of Vojvodinians I'd like to express my total support for any action US will take against him, his family and Serbia. Serbia is an outlaw country and as such shouldn't be helped in any way, especially not allowed to hold occupied the last remaining federal unit of former Yugoslavia - Vojvodina. We have the right to live free and be independent just as any of remaining 7 federal units of former Yugoslavia.
Freedom for all, freedom for the world, freedom for Vojvodina! Isolate outlaw countries and put criminals in jails!
I know this is just a lonely cry for justice in the moment when all of you see injustice taking place and therefore I hope that this message of mine will make some people start thinking about situation in Vojvodina. I truly hope that there are people in US who haven't forgotten about declaration of independence and glorious history of US written by Jefferson, Franklin and other great Americans.
If US faces problem with outlaw country like Serbia is, for who knows how long, than how about helping out to Vojvodinians who are sharing your pain and anger regarding this severe beating case because it is something they're experiencing it for generations in many ways as we suffer under Serbian ruthless occupation?
Vojvodina reaches out to US and we hope US won't ignore it. Serbia is a repeated offender, well know criminal with huge "police record", nothing but wars, killings and misery. If they want to be barbarians than isolate them in their borders prior to 1914 and let Vojvodina be free!
shut the fk up. you are a MINORITY! what referendum are you talking about? a referendum held by seperatist hungarians?? that hardly counts. dont think just because the albos managed to take kosovo u can do the same with vojvodina
Ozzy

Sydney, Australia

#23 Jul 2, 2008
is Serbia forcing you to live there?? if you dont like it, leave! simple. im sure serbia doesnt want losers and traitors like you living there anyway.
Edward

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#24 Jul 2, 2008
The names of the fascist organistions in Serbia are Blood and Honor Serbia,Nacionalni Stroj,Obraz,Rasionalisti and of course the Serbian Radical Party.
JNA didn't defend the constitution because the Yugoslav constitution from 1974. said that every republic inside Yugoslavia had the right to become independant trough elections.So in 1989 when the communism fell apart Milosevic used the Serbian army to create a Greater Serbia and make new borders.The old borders were set by partisans who won the war and not by nationalist Serbs.The leaders of the Yugoslav Republics then voted if the Yugoslav Army should come to action and they voted NO because of a Bosnian Serb who thought about all three peoples of Bosnia and not just the Serbs.So the Yugoslav army's attack on Slovenia and Croatia was illegal.Not to mention howmany civilians were executed by the Serbian Army and it's paramilitaries.
You can sall your crap to someone who doesn't know Yugoslavian history,but not to me 'cause i studied history.
Edward

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#25 Jul 2, 2008
And we Hungarians are still waiting on our revenge for the 50.000 Hungarians killed in Voivodina after the WW2.Don't think that Hungarians forgot about that.
Ozzy

Sydney, Australia

#26 Jul 2, 2008
Edward wrote:
And we Hungarians are still waiting on our revenge for the 50.000 Hungarians killed in Voivodina after the WW2.Don't think that Hungarians forgot about that.
well maybe if the hungarians didn't side with the nazis, their fate might have been different. no sympathy for them, they got their just deserts
Girl from Serbia

Belgrade, Serbia

#27 Jul 3, 2008
Edward wrote: i studied history..
What do you know about history?! You know only things you read in some books or somewhere else.. How do you is it true?! Of course, you agree with it and, in that case, it must be true.. Please, save as from you stupidity...
filip bajagic

Beograd, Serbia

#28 Jul 3, 2008
off course the victim is jewish, yeap same old bullshit. look i really feel sorry for the kid, but obviously the serb did not mean to kill him, he punched the guy, shit happens. attempted murder is a bit to much cause no murder was attempted! and u albanians carry the same gene as us serbs, montenegrians, so stop with the bullshit. we got better looking girls though, i gotta say that!!! as for minja, hmm... the american justice system is no better that iran, i have been through it a few times, nothing serious as this but i gotta tell u i dont trust it!!!!! i dont blame the kid, sc..w that country that boists the statue of liberty and a bunch of fat ugly dressed women. serbia is the place to be with 8 wonmen to one man, where even the ugliest one looks like the chics of celebrities in hollywood. america is falling apart and so is its justice system therefore i dont blame the guy for running, he couldnt have had a fair trial especially when messing with a jewish kid from Brooklin, let be realistic here people!!!
filip bajagic
Join the community
Beograd, Serbia 1 min ago
and if u wanna deport any immigrant, kick the jews out and ur country will be a lot better of. the spanish, the egyptians , and the germans were no fools. i am not saying kill them, but set them up all in israel and let them drain themselves financialy cause they are obviously holding the us by its balls. enough is enough. i am serbian and two of my grandfathers brothers died in world war two defending the world from the nazis. does anybody ever mention them. why do we gotta hear about ann frank and the jews all the time, i am sick of it!
Edward

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#29 Jul 3, 2008
@ Girl from Serbia

There is a video footage of that vote in 1991.The footage is a part of this long documentary.

http://youtube.com/watch...

You Serbs really need a reallity check.
filip bajagic

Beograd, Serbia

#30 Jul 3, 2008
oh now we are nazis, my god this world should be flushed down the toilet. are there really people that are this stupid, or they are playing around trying to bubble up emotions over this unfortunate inciddent!! wow!!! dumb duch man!!
Zoran

Belgrade, Serbia

#32 Jul 3, 2008
Vojvodinian wrote:
I'm from Vojvodina which is a former Yugoslav republic occupied by Serbia. This thug's current house is in Kula - a small town in Vojvodina. This guy and his family are just one of many thousands Serbs brought to Vojvodina from Bosnia, Croatia, Montenegro and Kosovo in order to suppress Vojvodinians just as China does it in Tibet.
Family of this thug is connected with Serbian secret police which is on top of organized crime, including everything from looting ethically cleaned villages all over former Yugoslavia to drug dealing, hiding war criminals or blunt theft of whole funds and savings of citizens of Vojvodina.
What I'm trying to point out that things like this one wouldn't happen if US didn't allow Serbia to continue with rape of Vojvodina which goes on for almost a century. We had a referendum in 2006, we've rejected to be part of Serbia and despite results of referendum US allowed Serbia to ignore our will.
Everyone consider Kosovo as last problem on Balkans but it surely is not. The thug in focus is just one representative of population that tortures Vojvodina and its citizens. I'd like to say "Open your eyes DC, open your eyes USA, before it becomes too late".
In the name of Vojvodinians I'd like to express my total support for any action US will take against him, his family and Serbia. Serbia is an outlaw country and as such shouldn't be helped in any way, especially not allowed to hold occupied the last remaining federal unit of former Yugoslavia - Vojvodina. We have the right to live free and be independent just as any of remaining 7 federal units of former Yugoslavia.
Freedom for all, freedom for the world, freedom for Vojvodina! Isolate outlaw countries and put criminals in jails!
I know this is just a lonely cry for justice in the moment when all of you see injustice taking place and therefore I hope that this message of mine will make some people start thinking about situation in Vojvodina. I truly hope that there are people in US who haven't forgotten about declaration of independence and glorious history of US written by Jefferson, Franklin and other great Americans.
If US faces problem with outlaw country like Serbia is, for who knows how long, than how about helping out to Vojvodinians who are sharing your pain and anger regarding this severe beating case because it is something they're experiencing it for generations in many ways as we suffer under Serbian ruthless occupation?
Vojvodina reaches out to US and we hope US won't ignore it. Serbia is a repeated offender, well know criminal with huge "police record", nothing but wars, killings and misery. If they want to be barbarians than isolate them in their borders prior to 1914 and let Vojvodina be free!
O cemu ti to?
Jesi normalan???
filip bajagic

Beograd, Serbia

#33 Jul 3, 2008
vidi ovu budalu madjarsku, nabijem te na kurac crnogorski od 24cm debeli, mrs u madjarsku mamu ti tvoju!
Max

Bayonne, NJ

#34 Jul 3, 2008
Jelena from Serbia wrote:
Hey Rod, thanks for showing us there is some common sense left in the US.
Being from Serbia, I am so terribly offended by all these things I read, and even though I never comment on any news, now I just had to.
There's however one thing I don't understand. Don't get me wrong, I do not approve of what happened, I am very sorry for the boy that got hurt and his family, but this was a bar fight, and I just can not understand all this crazy rage against all Serbs and all the media attention. I am more than sure that much worse things happen on a daily basis, and just don't understand why this one is so highly publicized.
So I just wanted to ask you to leave a little bit of room for the idea that many Serbs are very nice people, please don't be so narrow minded. There are bad people and good people everywhere, regardless of nationality.
I know that there are good Serbian people, I've worked with Serbs.

However apparently the Serbian government puts little to no stock in holding their citizens accountable for criminal actions in the rest of the world: in an article on the NYTimes.com website Serbian officials who are familiar with the case said Serbia’s Constitution prevents the government from extraditing Serbian citizens who would face criminal charges.

There is no wonder why many in the rest of the world view Serbia as a haven for criminals (Kovacevic) and those who would facilitate criminal activity (Kovcevic's mother).

If the Serbian government is ever to come out of the dark ages and gain credibility in the eyes of the civilized world it needs to prove those people wrong by returning Kovacevic to the U.S. immediately.
Diana-FL

Tampa, FL

#36 Jul 3, 2008
I am sorry, you being from Montenegro, where do you get all these information and are so sure it is in fact truth???? Don't try to negate what everyone has seen/witnesesed/tried - we all know what Serbia's "plan of attack" is when it comes to Vojvodina. After all, we'll live long enough to witness it.... again.
And for this moron who beat up this kid and all other morons sitting behind him and aiding him in escape - one message: just like you see a middle-aged woman driving on the busy highway, doing 35MPH in left lane on the speed limit of 60MPH - and all women, thanks to her get labeled as "WOMEN DRIVERS" - same story goes for Miladin the Monster. As if we (by WE I mean people from Ex-Yugoslavia) haven't been symbolized with chimpanzees, killers, monstrums, etc. enough - now we need another monstrum to put us all deeper in the shithole from which we'll recover 10 years from now. It is sad (as someone mentioned it) that there are so many issues, probably more important issues, that should occupy news and magazines aside from this - what makes this blown out of proportion is the fact that highest state officials (Serbia's, of course) have aided this criminal in escaping the country - but then again, we are so good at it, aren't we? Why is everyone acting so suprised?
Finally, I want to ask one question and before I do, trust me that I believe that this guy and all that helped should be punished with maximum sentence without parole and thrown into "GAYCHAMBER" so that he can be beaten different ways 1,000 ways to Sunday. I also feel really sorry for the guy that, apparently, was very promising and uplifting person. This is certainly not the way to resolve this kind of problem. But, to all of you Serbians/ex-YU guys outthere: isn't this the way you've always resolved all of your problems? Isn't this the way your parents, grandparents, etc. resolved their problems? Beating, supressions, that is all you've ever known. You have just now established hotline (in Belgrade) for domestic violence victims!!! Just last summer in Belgrade people were laughing at that and kept saying: As long as there is loud music, I can beat her any way I want to!" You have never resolved problems civilized way - you do know what that stands for, don't you? That is when people sit down and try and talk about differences and issues and then COMPROMISE to resolve! Such words are long lost from your dictionaries.
Diana-FL

Tampa, FL

#37 Jul 3, 2008
I'll be realistic: I stand independent, said what I had to say to those that come from same country as I did and as did this moron, now I'll say what I have to the "other" party. How do you guys feel like about going to Iraq, independent, sovereign country that has ITS OWN INTERNAL problems and killing their civilians???? There is no court to rule over that, is it? Because? Because you think that there is no higher ruling than U.S. Supreme Court? What? How do you feel about detainees in Guantanamo??? People sitting there for years without ruling, court hearing, judge, lawyer??? People sitting there because their name is hard to pronounce and could be spelled as Osama's??? I think that publicity that this incident got (again, I am for the toughest sentence this guy can get) is a mere attempt to take the attention from the elephant in the room - the fact that American image in the world today is as monstruoms as it can be. So, anything that can be/looks worse than that is welcome change to be rotated for 24hrs on CNN until we get to count every hair on this guy's hair. You barge into anyone's yard without questions, think you can impose democracy (what an oxymoron, by the way) anywhere you want and the way you want it and see it, get some "casual fatalities" while at it and go with the flow? And then you guys are offended when something like this happens? Reality check seriously needed here...
nat

New York, NY

#38 Jul 3, 2008
Edward wrote:
And we Hungarians are still waiting on our revenge for the 50.000 Hungarians killed in Voivodina after the WW2.Don't think that Hungarians forgot about that.
Opa bato. Madjar ahh? Pa onda nisam pogresila, sigurno imas malu kitu. ee cobane, give me a break with your tirades! Get a life, loser!
delije sever

Belgrade, Serbia

#39 Jul 3, 2008
miladin kovacevis is pride of serbia kosovo is serbia ratko mladic ale
Martin - Dublin

Sweden

#40 Jul 3, 2008
David wrote:
To those who comment that this was just a bar-room brawl, what Mr. Kovacevic did is still a crime by the laws of the US. When you live in a foreign country, you must adhere to the laws of that nation ... or face the consequences. The same goes for Americans living in other nations. Live by and respect the laws where you live, or face the consequences. Simple as that. Mr. Kovacevic did not respect the laws -- and he must be brought back to the US for trial -- where he will be presumed innocent ... until proven guilty.
Aiding and abetting suspects flee countries is also a violation of law in the US. So, that means there are two others who ought to accompany Mr. Kovacevic back to the US for trial; his mother and the Serbian consulate who provided him with the "emergency" travel documents that allowed him to board the flight to Germany.
Finally, as others have said, it is wrong to group all Serbs as "bad" -- just because these three are. However, it is fully justified to put political and economic pressure on a nation that disrespects another nations laws. That is done all of the time. If Serbia wants aide and respect of the US and Americans, then Serbia and Serbians MUST show respect to us. Serbians must earn respect from Americans to get it -- and they should/will only get it if they respect our laws -- and return ALL three of these suspects ... ASAP.
Like the respect GI's show in Japan? People are sick to death of the rapes and murders by GI's. Maybe they are ex- basketball players?
US does not respect international law, and it's peacekeeping forces are not subject to these laws as other UN forces are, so while I agree that guests should respect their host country - get a grip. This guy is a piece of crap and deserves a fitting punishment. But to punish Serbia? Why? Because you are racist is that it?
Anyway UK's Margaret Thatcher kept Pinochet for how long? And he was a monster wanted for warcrimes, they refused to extradite him.
Martin - Dublin

Sweden

#41 Jul 3, 2008
Edward wrote:
So in 1989 when the communism fell apart Milosevic used the Serbian army to create a Greater Serbia and make new borders.The old borders were set by partisans who won the war and not by nationalist Serbs.The leaders of the Yugoslav Republics then voted if the Yugoslav Army should come to action and they voted NO because of a Bosnian Serb who thought about all three peoples of Bosnia and not just the Serbs.So the Yugoslav army's attack on Slovenia and Croatia was illegal.Not to mention howmany civilians were executed by the Serbian Army and it's paramilitaries.
You can sall your crap to someone who doesn't know Yugoslavian history,but not to me 'cause i studied history.
But you only know what you were taught by mainstream media. I have only one thing for you - WMD. Where are they? Where is sophisticated delivery system? Where is Bin Laden?
The slovenian's started the war, the JNA (poorly trained young guys - not special forces) arrived on the border and some were killed by Slovenian army. One guy was choked to death. Have you examined the population statictics for Kosovo - who ethnically cleansed who? Ethnic cleansing was first used as a term to describe what the KLA were doing to Serbs in Kosovo (for decades)- this is what swung milosevics election. Why did UN general Lewis Mckenzie say "We bombed the wrong side"? Why was US black ops (AKA Kill the Jesuit priests) William Walker in Kosovo? Many people say the Racak incident was faked. BTW it was the Serbs who were cleansed from croatia - but you go on inverting the truth.
Martin - Dublin

Sweden

#42 Jul 3, 2008
Max wrote:
<quoted text>
I know that there are good Serbian people, I've worked with Serbs.
However apparently the Serbian government puts little to no stock in holding their citizens accountable for criminal actions in the rest of the world: in an article on the NYTimes.com website Serbian officials who are familiar with the case said Serbia’s Constitution prevents the government from extraditing Serbian citizens who would face criminal charges.
There is no wonder why many in the rest of the world view Serbia as a haven for criminals (Kovacevic) and those who would facilitate criminal activity (Kovcevic's mother).
If the Serbian government is ever to come out of the dark ages and gain credibility in the eyes of the civilized world it needs to prove those people wrong by returning Kovacevic to the U.S. immediately.
They have to do it in a legal fashion otherwise the case collapses in US!!!!! It's not pedantics it's the legalistics that must be dealth with! In ireland we had an extradition treaty with UK and unless the procedure was followed TO THE LETTER no extradition or worse the guys is sent back to Ireland.

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