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There are 20 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from Oct 25, 2009, titled Some venom for your Sunday breakfast | The Columbus Dispatch. In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

Hope everyone's hungry. Today's special: crab. And plenty more eatin' online. Mr. Stein: We were all so delighted when Terrelle Pryor chose the Buckeyes.

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Rory C

United States

#1 Oct 25, 2009
I'm tired of hearing people complain about Tressel and Pryor. Tressel is a better coach than even Woody Hayes was, that's right. I said it. And Pryor is still coming along. He will never be a Troy Smith or Art Schlichter, but he will do AMAZING things. I guarantee it. Now...on to Tressel. This man has done more for Ohio State football than anyone alive. He took a program that was a laughingstock under John Cooper, and made it into a team that is ALWAYS in the spotlight, good or bad. We can't win every game, let alone every bowl game, so just deal with it. He is the greatest thing going today.
ScarletReigns

Warner Robins, GA

#3 Oct 25, 2009
I pity people who expect perfection. I don't like to lose, but there isn't a single football program that hasn't suffered losses.

I am bewildered by the highly negative "eeyore" fans who proclaim, "Things can't get worse!" New Mexico State is coming in next week; I challenge you naysayers to go ask their team if things could "get worse"!

I hope our team recognizes that these dissatisfied, irascible fans represent a very small portion of the fan base.

Go Bucks: Your hardwork, good sportsmanship, perseverance, loyalty, integrity, and determination make us proud!!!!
Eric Warstler

Spartanburg, SC

#4 Oct 25, 2009
Why would you have these letters on a Sunday morning after the Buckeyes probably had their best offensive showing of the year???.....It is because writers like you have limited imagination,and or journalistic talent. All you can do is focus on the negative. I actually feel sorry for you if this is the best you have.
Speechless

Columbus, OH

#5 Oct 25, 2009
It was Minnesota people!
osbuck

Orlando, FL

#6 Oct 25, 2009
I remember how upset I was that Troy Smith was playing in his undergrad years when I didn't think he should have. I believe Tressel knows what he is doing, you can't win them all, Pryor is so talented that if he only cuts down on his turnovers he is so good that his great plays will more than make up for his bad plays. There is no way you should bench him for more than a series. I'm sure Tressell is also trying to improve his and the rest of the staff's coaching as well as Terrelle is trying to improve. I love football season.
Demybuck

Massillon, OH

#7 Oct 25, 2009
Pryor needs to really work on his short passing game. The over the middle slants he consistently either throws short and low or overthrows. Two times this year, the USC game he had Ballard wide open in the back of the end zone and he over threw badly on a 10 yard dink pass. We settled for a field goal. Last week against Purdue he did the very same thing,or was it Wisconsin? Ballard wide open and he over threw it badly again. I think we can all remember him missing Posey and Sansenbacher on quick dink slants over the middle many times. These are basically passes most high school quarterbacks can complete. He needs to settle down and throw the ball with purpose instead of flinging or flipping it.
Jay Robison

Fort Myers, FL

#8 Oct 25, 2009
In eight years, Tress has taken OSU to 3 National Championship games,and won one, consistantly won the Big Ten and beat Michigan and brought us a quarterback who will one day be legend in OSU and NFL history. The fans above are why OSU is so hated by many media folk and other schools. Nasty, petty, self-involved and with zero knowledge of football or team loyalty.
Old Buckeye

Morrisville, NC

#9 Oct 25, 2009
JT is a good man, a great recruiter, and a good head coach, and has done a lot for OSU. That said, he is a terrible offensive coach and the record shows it. He needs to overcome his bull headed ways and hire a real, full time offensive coordinator who sits up in the press box, sees the field, and calls the appropriate plays. To win in November, we have to develop a strong running game with our tailbacks which will create opportunities for TP to fake the handoff and run or have sufficient time to throw the passes he can throw without the panic he usually exhibits. He lacks many basic instinctive QB skills and will always be a below average passer but with the realistic threat of an established tailback running game, his athletic skills could be maximized. His dancing around and staring down a single reciever may have worked on the sandlots, in high school and against Minnesota but it won't against the good teams.
Paul

Kingsport, TN

#10 Oct 25, 2009
I like Tressel and all his players and coaches. Nothing like being at or near the top every year. I love the Buckeyes!!!!!!!

GO BUCKS!!!!!!!!!!
buckeyeinla

La Habra, CA

#11 Oct 25, 2009
Jay Robison wrote:
In eight years, Tress has taken OSU to 3 National Championship games,and won one, consistantly won the Big Ten and beat Michigan and brought us a quarterback who will one day be legend in OSU and NFL history. The fans above are why OSU is so hated by many media folk and other schools. Nasty, petty, self-involved and with zero knowledge of football or team loyalty.
Easy douche-bag. Stay out of our web space. The reason you hate us is we have tradition, unlike Florida, and have won many games before this decade, again, unlike florida.
Its 420 Somewhere

Prairie, MS

#12 Oct 25, 2009
Jay Robison wrote:
In eight years, Tress has taken OSU to 3 National Championship games,and won one, consistantly won the Big Ten and beat Michigan and brought us a quarterback who will one day be legend in OSU and NFL history. The fans above are why OSU is so hated by many media folk and other schools. Nasty, petty, self-involved and with zero knowledge of football or team loyalty.
Pryor will not be a legend in the NFL, unless all teams turn into the Browns except his.
Jeff

United States

#13 Oct 25, 2009
Jay Robison wrote:
In eight years, Tress has taken OSU to 3 National Championship games,and won one, consistantly won the Big Ten and beat Michigan and brought us a quarterback who will one day be legend in OSU and NFL history. The fans above are why OSU is so hated by many media folk and other schools. Nasty, petty, self-involved and with zero knowledge of football or team loyalty.
Pryor will be an OSU lengend all right - in the same way that Justin Zwick is one.
Jeff

United States

#14 Oct 25, 2009
Rory C wrote:
I'm tired of hearing people complain about Tressel and Pryor. Tressel is a better coach than even Woody Hayes was, that's right. I said it. And Pryor is still coming along. He will never be a Troy Smith or Art Schlichter, but he will do AMAZING things. I guarantee it. Now...on to Tressel. This man has done more for Ohio State football than anyone alive. He took a program that was a laughingstock under John Cooper, and made it into a team that is ALWAYS in the spotlight, good or bad. We can't win every game, let alone every bowl game, so just deal with it. He is the greatest thing going today.
Tressel, if not for an an incredible run of luck in 2002 that culminated with that infamous pass interfence flag against Miami, would have no NCs and gotten absolutely creamed in 2 of them. Along the way, he has dominated an inferior B10 and even more inferior Michigan team.(see Appalachia St and Toledo).

The hallmarks of the Tressel era - inferior O-line play and inability to make adjustments to an opposing defense have grown endemic and the only cure is to deal with that reality and for him to admit that it is really HIM who needs to get better.
Vince

United States

#15 Oct 25, 2009
I was a Jim Tressel fan back when I had a sample size too small to understand his coaching acumen. Now that I have a much larger sample size, I am a proud Buckeye fan..not a Tress fan.

I am afraid that he doesnt have it in him to fire his buddies and do what is best for the program. If you look at the offensive rankings over the last couple of years, any other head coach would have fired his O-coordinator.

Ohio State can run roughshod over the big ten based on talent ALONE. The B10 hasnt been strong these past couple of years. For the past couple of years, we have coasted into the PSU game and the winner takes it. Tress has become lazy and uninnovative. He leans on talent and refuses to alter personnel or game plans...largely because his players are better and he can get away with it.

Then comes a hard game, when he has to adjust and he cant do it. He had a bewildered look in his eye while shuffling papers and pacing the sideline.

I dont expect perfection; I expect improvement. I havent seen any. I wont get excited about beating Minnesota. OSU does not measure itself by that stick. I will wait for November and see Tressel use the well worn statements:
"You know, we looked good in practice all week long"
"Terrelle is a perfectionist, he hates to make mistakes"
"[remove Purdue and insert team name here] played a really great game. They have a talented team"
"We have to get back to practice and correct some mistakes"

1-2 in November...
OSU vs. LSU in Cap One bowl.
0-1 in January.
Rory C

United States

#16 Oct 26, 2009
Jeff wrote:
<quoted text>
Tressel, if not for an an incredible run of luck in 2002 that culminated with that infamous pass interfence flag against Miami, would have no NCs and gotten absolutely creamed in 2 of them. Along the way, he has dominated an inferior B10 and even more inferior Michigan team.(see Appalachia St and Toledo).
The hallmarks of the Tressel era - inferior O-line play and inability to make adjustments to an opposing defense have grown endemic and the only cure is to deal with that reality and for him to admit that it is really HIM who needs to get better.
Sorry about your luck, but one flag has nothing to do with it. Miami was outplayed. Even their own players that i personally have spoken with know this. Deal with it.
Rory C

United States

#17 Oct 26, 2009
Jeff wrote:
<quoted text>
Tressel, if not for an an incredible run of luck in 2002 that culminated with that infamous pass interfence flag against Miami, would have no NCs and gotten absolutely creamed in 2 of them. Along the way, he has dominated an inferior B10 and even more inferior Michigan team.(see Appalachia St and Toledo).
The hallmarks of the Tressel era - inferior O-line play and inability to make adjustments to an opposing defense have grown endemic and the only cure is to deal with that reality and for him to admit that it is really HIM who needs to get better.
And furthermore...you want to talk lucky, yet you're from Cali. Hmm. USC is about the luckiest team there is. Also outplayed for 59 minutes, and got one lucky posession. Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good. USC lucky, Ohio State Good.
SEE THE LIGHT

Lexington, KY

#18 Oct 26, 2009
Pryor will not be even close to an OSU legend until he puts up Great stats against Great teams like PSU/Iowa/USC/insert SEC team here/ etc...

“DEC 7 1941”

Since: Dec 06

AWAYS A BUCKEYE!!!

#19 Oct 26, 2009
Speechless wrote:
It was Minnesota people!
It was Purdue my friend....for USC it was Sanford, UCLA, Oregon State, Washington....on any given saturday or thursday....anyone can lose...GO BUCKS!!

“DEC 7 1941”

Since: Dec 06

AWAYS A BUCKEYE!!!

#20 Oct 26, 2009
SEE THE LIGHT wrote:
Pryor will not be even close to an OSU legend until he puts up Great stats against Great teams like PSU/Iowa/USC/insert SEC team here/ etc...
Are you a Buckeye fan? It will take alot more than TP or anyone else to be "great"...the o-line has to block for him and the rb's, the wr's need to get open....TP is a gifted runner...he needs to be given the green-light to tuck it and run....coaches need to stop trying to make him a pure passer....whats wrong with running the ball? It will free up everyone else....GO BUCKS!!!
Arizona Huey

Phoenix, AZ

#21 Oct 26, 2009
I am so sick and tired of listening to all of you fair weather fans whining about Terrelle Pryor and how he hasn't cured cancer, hasn't won the Heisman, has thrown an incomplete pass, has thrown an interception, should have thrown it, should have run, should have run out of bounds, should have mowed the defender over, should have brushed his teeth left handed, should have sat at the other end of the bench. ENOUGH! You're pathetic and you're a disgrace to the rest of The Buckeye Nation fans who are loyal and behind these young men 100%. They are busting their behinds to play for this great university and don't need to hear all of this crap from the likes of you lame fickle, pathetic excuse of a fan. I would love to see you worthless crybabies pry yourself away from the couch, walk onto the field and complete just ONE pass under the same game conditions Pryor plays under. JUST ONE! Quick clue... you wouldn't come close to getting a pass near a receiver let alone complete one. Pryor is 19 years old trying to learn an entirely different way to play quarterback from what he's done all of his life up until he signed with the Buckeyes. The kid has made some sensational plays thus far and will only get better and better. Instead of crying about a bad game or two lately, how about shutting your pie hole with the negative non-productive garbage and get behind your team.

Terrelle and team... please to not listen to these fair weather fickle fans whine and cry. Just know that there are way more loyal and true Buckeye fans out there that are in your corner, win or lose!!!

GO BUCKEYES!!!!

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