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Tennessee Jerry

Lewisburg, TN

#104 Jun 30, 2011
gjzuidy wrote:
As is typical, many osu minions still don't get it.. the program in chus, under the liar, was built unethically. They had a stranglehold on the great high school recruits whom had ZERO character, cuz it was well known that the gravy train in the land of lies was bountiful. It was known that you could do what you wanted as a chokeye cuz everybody, including your coach, would turn a blind eye. Tatoos?? Who cares, kids do stupid things everywhere.. but when your LEADER lies and covers up, well, that is arrogance, ignorance, and corruption all wrapped up in one neat little package. And TennJerry, well, you really don't have a clue.. Who cares that the liar visitied hospitals..ALL D1 coaches do that, genius. And other coaches "respect" him??? What do you think they would say?? What good does it do them to disparage him? JT is gone, who the heck cares what Stoops thinks of him now? You are a blind follower, and you think your "examples of sainthood" have meaning...you are a fool, and your program is a disgrace and a joke...
Those things you know that are not so. I am no more a blind follower than you are objective. I said early on the Tressel had to resign or he should be terminated. Don't make accusations out of iqnorance, it means you sound smarter by not saying anything at all.
Our program was built quite ethically and it started long before Tressel. 98% of our players have had no problems with character issues or classrooom issues. You just love to take a very few and over generalize to make your agenda look valid. Baloney. I have quite a clue, clueless! No Div I coach has to go public and stand up for the career of any other coach and call him a friend unless he is sincere. What good is it that he does? Boy are you shallow. What do I expect Div I coaches to say? Nothing unless they felt Tressel was worth supporting in these tough times. Stoop could just as well remained quiet so shallow people who don't know him think media reports are all there is to a man's life. I realize you don't care what a respected coach as is Bob Stoop has to say.....it doesn't support your biased agenda. All coaches go to Iraq to visit the troops too? Yeh, genius. According to Childrens' hospital, no OSU coach and his players have ever spent as much time with the children as Tressel..."you lack of genius". Every part of a man's life is important and has meaning. Maybe not to you because it doesn't support you biased agenda. Sometimes good people do bad things and of course they pay for it. In one year, Tressel made a bad choice and he is gone. It has nothing to do with the years before or those ahead. It has nothing to do with the current or ongoing program. You sound like an Allstate commercial...first you present a premise that you want us to take as fact "It was known you could do as you wanted" and then you give us the TRUTH, "because your coach would turn a blind eye." You are so full of crap. You know nothing of the truth. Our program must not be a joke, as I said, two SEC coaches said OSU was one of the top 3 coaching jobs in Div I.
Well, I guess that about describes who is the fool and what program isn't a joke. Ask the opposing coaches in the fall if they think OSU is a joke. You ramble on with just your biased agenda. I present quotes and comments from experts and respected people. You are not only "a fool", your words, but irrelevant as well, my words.
BUCKS1FAN

Columbus, OH

#105 Jul 1, 2011
If these kids stick together , play their position well and as a unit on both sides of the ball . It may turn out better than most think .
GO BUCKS !
gjzuidy

East Lansing, MI

#106 Jul 1, 2011
Hello TennJerry.. my "irrelevance" sure has your panties in a knot.. And unless there is some statement from Stoops I am unaware of, the only thing Stoops (who is a FRIEND of sweaterliars and therefore not the most objective source) said is that it is impossible to monitor 100 players but if a player breaks a major rule he is dismissed (Bomar) immediately. So Stoops is essentially criticizing sweaterboy for how he handled the situation.. You want to make this all about jt's other qualities..well, go ahead. Nobody is making a stmt about his entire life and activities. But regarding his football leadership he has been corrupt since YSU... nice try...
Bucks-R-InTroubl e

Canton, OH

#107 Jul 1, 2011
Tatoogate and Tressel made a mess out of OSU recruiting. I just read today the after 4 star prospect Price jumped ship that Coach Fickell offer another LB from Zanesville that scholarship. The kid from Zanesville has NO stars! Plus all the 4 star recurits in this state that Tressel would of nomally gotten are leaving. Tom Strobel-Michigan Se Von Pittman-MSU Greg McMillian-Nebraska Pharoh Brown-Michigan, These guys are all 4 star talent and they left because Tressel not there. OSU maybe good this year, but if this recruiting skid keeps on going OSU is in BIG trouble
Ron

Thousand Oaks, CA

#108 Jul 1, 2011
Tennessee Jerry, great post. Sometimes it's necessary to cast pearls before swine. Still, don't expect to see a string of pearls on clueless porkers any time soon. It almost demeans OSU to defend the tradition and high quality to those who have neither.
Tennessee Jerry wrote:
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Those things you know that are not so. I am no more a blind follower than you are objective. I said early on the Tressel had to resign or he should be terminated. Don't make accusations out of iqnorance, it means you sound smarter by not saying anything at all.
Our program was built quite ethically and it started long before Tressel. 98% of our players have had no problems with character issues or classrooom issues. You just love to take a very few and over generalize to make your agenda look valid. Baloney. I have quite a clue, clueless! No Div I coach has to go public and stand up for the career of any other coach and call him a friend unless he is sincere. What good is it that he does? Boy are you shallow. What do I expect Div I coaches to say? Nothing unless they felt Tressel was worth supporting in these tough times. Stoop could just as well remained quiet so shallow people who don't know him think media reports are all there is to a man's life. I realize you don't care what a respected coach as is Bob Stoop has to say.....it doesn't support your biased agenda. All coaches go to Iraq to visit the troops too? Yeh, genius. According to Childrens' hospital, no OSU coach and his players have ever spent as much time with the children as Tressel..."you lack of genius". Every part of a man's life is important and has meaning. Maybe not to you because it doesn't support you biased agenda. Sometimes good people do bad things and of course they pay for it. In one year, Tressel made a bad choice and he is gone. It has nothing to do with the years before or those ahead. It has nothing to do with the current or ongoing program. You sound like an Allstate commercial...first you present a premise that you want us to take as fact "It was known you could do as you wanted" and then you give us the TRUTH, "because your coach would turn a blind eye." You are so full of crap. You know nothing of the truth. Our program must not be a joke, as I said, two SEC coaches said OSU was one of the top 3 coaching jobs in Div I.
Well, I guess that about describes who is the fool and what program isn't a joke. Ask the opposing coaches in the fall if they think OSU is a joke. You ramble on with just your biased agenda. I present quotes and comments from experts and respected people. You are not only "a fool", your words, but irrelevant as well, my words.
Ron

Thousand Oaks, CA

#109 Jul 1, 2011
gjzuidy wrote:
Hello TennJerry.. my "irrelevance" sure has your panties in a knot.. And unless there is some statement from Stoops I am unaware of, the only thing Stoops (who is a FRIEND of sweaterliars and therefore not the most objective source) said is that it is impossible to monitor 100 players but if a player breaks a major rule he is dismissed (Bomar) immediately. So Stoops is essentially criticizing sweaterboy for how he handled the situation.. You want to make this all about jt's other qualities..well, go ahead. Nobody is making a stmt about his entire life and activities. But regarding his football leadership he has been corrupt since YSU... nice try...
Is this intended as a coherent reply to a discussion point? If you could try to say something without submerging it in a pile of acrid rhetoric, it would help. So far, what you've said about Stoops and Tressel seems fairly unconvincing. I can't be sure, since you tend to get lost in name-calling and rambling sentences. Hopefully, you'll find something to write about that's worthwhile and does make some sort of rational point.
Jim Robinson

Ocala, FL

#110 Jul 1, 2011
Personally I feel that in the end O.S.U will be better off without Tyrell Pryor. Too many distractions,too much feeling of self importance,too much of not blending with the team. And, too many mediocre games. Yeah, he looked like a football player but was he one? Did he have the commitment, desire, determination, dedication and discipline to make the Buckeye machine roll? I don't think so and a lot of people I know feel the same. Good luck to the new coach, the new starters and the new season.
Tennessee Jerry

Lewisburg, TN

#111 Jul 2, 2011
gjzuidy wrote:
Hello TennJerry.. my "irrelevance" sure has your panties in a knot.. And unless there is some statement from Stoops I am unaware of, the only thing Stoops (who is a FRIEND of sweaterliars and therefore not the most objective source) said is that it is impossible to monitor 100 players but if a player breaks a major rule he is dismissed (Bomar) immediately. So Stoops is essentially criticizing sweaterboy for how he handled the situation.. You want to make this all about jt's other qualities..well, go ahead. Nobody is making a stmt about his entire life and activities. But regarding his football leadership he has been corrupt since YSU... nice try...
You don't have fact ONE that Tressel was ever corrupt since YSU or before. Yep, Stoop said that he was sad the Tressel made A MISTAKE.
That wasn't even a nice try "gjzuidy". Wishing or saying it doesn't make it so. Throwing undeserved mud makes you irrelevant, shallow and shows your biased agenda.
gjzuidy

East Lansing, MI

#112 Jul 2, 2011
Ron wrote:
<quoted text>
Is this intended as a coherent reply to a discussion point? If you could try to say something without submerging it in a pile of acrid rhetoric, it would help. So far, what you've said about Stoops and Tressel seems fairly unconvincing. I can't be sure, since you tend to get lost in name-calling and rambling sentences. Hopefully, you'll find something to write about that's worthwhile and does make some sort of rational point.
Your reading comprehension skills are your problem, not mine. I'm not gonna replay the entire thread between TennJerr amd me, but basically TennJer uses Stoops alleged "praising" of sweaterliar to lend credence to his own argument that jt was loved and admired by a plethora (sorry I'm using big words, I know you stuggle with them) of D1 coaches. My point is that Stoops was a buddy of jt's, and actually criticized the liar for his handling of the scandal. And the liar has been dirty since YSU.... have a great day.
gjzuidy

East Lansing, MI

#113 Jul 2, 2011
Tennessee Jerry wrote:
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You don't have fact ONE that Tressel was ever corrupt since YSU or before. Yep, Stoop said that he was sad the Tressel made A MISTAKE.
That wasn't even a nice try "gjzuidy". Wishing or saying it doesn't make it so. Throwing undeserved mud makes you irrelevant, shallow and shows your biased agenda.
Stoops said no such thing.. paraphrase all ya' want TennJer, but your choice of words in paraphrasing Stoops totally changes what Stoops said. You ain't gonna win this one TennJer...sweaterliar was corrupt, his program was built on 10 years of corruption, and you can deny all ya' want, but there is nothing different about this current scandal that hadn't been alleged at YSU... Would be a pretty big coincidence that his "alleged" corruption at YSU was not true and yet now he is found to be a liar and cheater a decade later.. believe what ya' want, but it's simply denial.... Well, it's been fun guys...off to the golf course, hoping it doesn't rain.. adios amigos...
Hammer

Mount Vernon, OH

#114 Jul 2, 2011
GATOR GARY wrote:
How good is the OSU football team? That question will be answered when your beloved Buckeyes come to Miami ti play the CANES. My money will be on Miami! Let me quote your beloved fired coach Woody Hayes. "You can count on losing a game for every Freshman you start". You will be wishing you had Pryor back when you travel to Miami!
already have. The mob will want him back too.
Toledo Buckeye

Toledo, OH

#115 Jul 2, 2011
Little update from other corners of the perfect world outside of C-bus:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers...

This is how to really cheat the "system"!
Tennessee Jerry

Lewisburg, TN

#116 Jul 2, 2011
gjzuidy wrote:
<quoted text>Stoops said no such thing.. paraphrase all ya' want TennJer, but your choice of words in paraphrasing Stoops totally changes what Stoops said. You ain't gonna win this one TennJer...sweaterliar was corrupt, his program was built on 10 years of corruption, and you can deny all ya' want, but there is nothing different about this current scandal that hadn't been alleged at YSU... Would be a pretty big coincidence that his "alleged" corruption at YSU was not true and yet now he is found to be a liar and cheater a decade later.. believe what ya' want, but it's simply denial.... Well, it's been fun guys...off to the golf course, hoping it doesn't rain.. adios amigos...
Those things you know that are not so. I was listening to 99.1 out of Knoxville, Tn. When the Tressel story was hot, the commentators had just finished with the Bruce Pearl story and moved on to Tressel. The station actually played a tape of Stoop's comments where I as stated, he talked about his friend Tressel and their trip to Iraq and how sad that "Jim" made the mistake, etc., etc. and then the commentator mentioned comments of two SEC coaches who talked about the OSU coaching job as being one of the top 3 in Div I football. You are so full of crap. If you play golf like you post, I wouldn't trust you with the score card and an eraser.
I just love the "ALLEGED" part of your post. Alleged by whom? You don't count, you are irrelevant. There was absolutely not one allegation attributed to Tressel at YSU that was shown to be fact. Most centered on the man Tressel knew and that man commited felonies. Guilt by association could easily affect us all while we have done nothing. Do you really think the NCAA after their full investigation wouldn't have found substance if it was there? The sanctions against Tressel from his YSU coaching days were what? There weren't any? Why you said it was so corrupt, it must be so. You are unbelievable. Your wishing it or saying it doesn't make it so. So...dream on.
You then skip a decade where Tressel did indeed make the wrong decision and do the wrong thing and in that one issue, he was found not to be honest. On that one issue, you want to count everything back to his stealing candy when he was six. Oh, I mean alleged. Yeh, it was alleged that Nixon stole candy when he was six also.
Again, you sound like an Allstate commercial. You give us YOUR premise as though it is fact....and then you give us your TRUTH. "You ain't gone to win this one" gjzuidy". Things in your head don't count. "Believe what ya' want", but it's just denial", just your smoke.
I didn't have to win this one, you lost by default.
gjzuidy

East Lansing, MI

#117 Jul 2, 2011
Tennessee Jerry wrote:
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Those things you know that are not so. I was listening to 99.1 out of Knoxville, Tn. When the Tressel story was hot, the commentators had just finished with the Bruce Pearl story and moved on to Tressel. The station actually played a tape of Stoop's comments where I as stated, he talked about his friend Tressel and their trip to Iraq and how sad that "Jim" made the mistake, etc., etc. and then the commentator mentioned comments of two SEC coaches who talked about the OSU coaching job as being one of the top 3 in Div I football. You are so full of crap. If you play golf like you post, I wouldn't trust you with the score card and an eraser.
I just love the "ALLEGED" part of your post. Alleged by whom? You don't count, you are irrelevant. There was absolutely not one allegation attributed to Tressel at YSU that was shown to be fact. Most centered on the man Tressel knew and that man commited felonies. Guilt by association could easily affect us all while we have done nothing. Do you really think the NCAA after their full investigation wouldn't have found substance if it was there? The sanctions against Tressel from his YSU coaching days were what? There weren't any? Why you said it was so corrupt, it must be so. You are unbelievable. Your wishing it or saying it doesn't make it so. So...dream on.
You then skip a decade where Tressel did indeed make the wrong decision and do the wrong thing and in that one issue, he was found not to be honest. On that one issue, you want to count everything back to his stealing candy when he was six. Oh, I mean alleged. Yeh, it was alleged that Nixon stole candy when he was six also.
Again, you sound like an Allstate commercial. You give us YOUR premise as though it is fact....and then you give us your TRUTH. "You ain't gone to win this one" gjzuidy". Things in your head don't count. "Believe what ya' want", but it's just denial", just your smoke.
I didn't have to win this one, you lost by default.
You seem to suffer a bit from delusion. Stoops never went to Iraq with the liar.. nice try...And you can rationalize all you want about his tenure at YSU, but YSU was hammered with probation for events that happened while he was there, and osu won a NC with players that got osu on probation before (clarett and smith)... see any pattern?? You are sad, but I admire your loyalty....
Tennessee Jerry

Lewisburg, TN

#118 Jul 2, 2011
gjzuidy wrote:
<quoted text>You seem to suffer a bit from delusion. Stoops never went to Iraq with the liar.. nice try...And you can rationalize all you want about his tenure at YSU, but YSU was hammered with probation for events that happened while he was there, and osu won a NC with players that got osu on probation before (clarett and smith)... see any pattern?? You are sad, but I admire your loyalty....
Well, this will be my last reply to you. You can't debate with one who avoids facts and bases retoric on a biased opinion. I usually don't call poster names but you certainly are in a class by yourself and classless at that.
I wouldn't have mentioned Stoops' trip to Iran if I hadn't heard it from his own lips on tape played on Fm 99.1. When I hear it, that's probably not delusion. Why even say something that you do not know anything about? Do you have to hear it to believe it? That probably wouldn't work either, your biased agenda takes us the space between your ears where your brain is supposed to be able to analyze facts, not smoke. You will sound a lot smarter if you are very quiet.
So, you say I "seem to suffer a bit from delusion. Stoops never went to Iraq". If you use your mouse, I bet a child could help you find "Earlier this week, Oklahoma coach Bob Stoops....of his travels to Iraq".
And you can rationalize all you want and it doesn't make it so. You aren't rational.
Yes, you are correct, YSU was indeed sanctioned by the NCAA while he was there and after, so what. I didn't rationalize about a thing. I drew the proper conclusion since no facts showed fault by Tressel. Tressel was not found to be at fault for anything and those responsible were punished.
He wasn't sanctioned? Really" I wonder why? Quick, forward your "facts" to the NCAA, there may still be time. Oh, that won't work, you don't have any. You are so biased you have blinders on.
What do Clarett and Smith have to do with anything? Clarett recently admited he lied about past issues and Smith was punished promptly and correctly for his violation.
Any probation relating to them is not relevant, both were eligible to play when they did. There was no issue about them or a pattern by OSU.
It might suprise you to know that only 3 Div I football programs have not had a MAJOR NCAA violation. It doesn't make their programs dirty. It's just the cost of having a football program. You can pick on any of them. There are just too many players and staff to know who is doing what and when so you react afterwards. That's life. Tressel didn't react properly and is gone as he should be.
Why don't you just let the experts decide what a pattern is? You sir are an irrelevant amateur with a biased agenda, blowing smoke. Poof, all gone!
gjzuidy

East Lansing, MI

#119 Jul 3, 2011
Well, after a terrific day at the gorgeous beaches of Lake Michigan with my 12 year old son, a little cookout, Tigers on the radio, I'm ready to crash. I see TennJer has written another novel, still spewing silliness. Casey Anthony wishes you were a juror.. Anyway, Bob Stoops never went to Iraq with the liar, period....(or is it Iran, since you keep flipping back and forth, which is pretty funny).. You just simply make things up in a lame attempt to sound informed. I really don't care that you choose to ignore the fact the the liar has had clouds hovering over him since YSU. The OVERWHELMING opinion of journalists around the country is that the liar has been dancing with whores since YSU. I suppose that a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist doesn't have any credibility with you either?? Then, am I to assume that the liar has filed, or is about to file, a lawsuit for libel against George Dohrman?? Haven't heard anything about that lawsuit yet, but I'm sure you probsbly have..you probably heard it on the same radio show where Stoops talks about his trip to Iraq...
Bo - Woody Never Cheated

Grand Blanc, MI

#120 Jul 4, 2011
Bucks-R-InTrouble wrote:
Tatoogate and Tressel made a mess out of OSU recruiting. I just read today the after 4 star prospect Price jumped ship that Coach Fickell offer another LB from Zanesville that scholarship. The kid from Zanesville has NO stars! Plus all the 4 star recurits in this state that Tressel would of nomally gotten are leaving. Tom Strobel-Michigan Se Von Pittman-MSU Greg McMillian-Nebraska Pharoh Brown-Michigan, These guys are all 4 star talent and they left because Tressel not there. OSU maybe good this year, but if this recruiting skid keeps on going OSU is in BIG trouble
Let's not forget how St Tressel use to get the 4 stars. Money- cars- tats and hookers

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