Web photo puts Irish QB, teammates in crosshairs

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For the second time in a year, Notre Dame quarterback Jimmy Clausen may have to explain his alleged participation in a situation involving alcohol.
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#136
Aug 7, 2008
 
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This guy Clausen is an idiot. Proves you don't have to be smart to be an athlete at ND.
Yep, being in the vicinity of a cup of beer, what an idiot!
Put down the crack pipe Scott, summer school is in session in an hour.
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#137
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I agree with your "elitist snobs" crack but then you had to ruin it by claiming your SIL works for the Notre Dame Alumni Association. Too bad.
Believe me, her and her family of ND supporters have only strengthened my distaste for the ND sheep. But it helps back my point, which doesn't matter, because the domers green colored glasses obscures their judgement, rendering them unable to see a different viewpoint as we all know.
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#138
Aug 7, 2008
 
Pacman, why do you call Charlie Weis, Charlie Frontbutt? Coach Weis had nothing to do with Willingham being fired. I don't think it's fair to pick on Coach Weis because of what you preceive to be an injustice that happened to Willingham. Will Weis succeed, I don't know but he's willing to make changes (hiring Tenuta, giving control of the offense to Haywood) after a horrible year. Yes, he's perceived as arrogant but name a coach who isn't. The refusal to make changes was part of Willingham's downfall, he was too stubborn and loyal to inept assistants to make changes. In addition his refusal to recruit was mindblowing. One name you cannot call Coach Weis is lazy because he works his "frontbutt" off recruiting (which resulted in the #1 recruiting class this past year).

I think that Tenacious ND was spot on in his remark about why there was a decline in alumi contributions, and quite frankly I think you will see a decline in 2008 given the economy. I also think that the alums had a problem with the entire administration from Father Malloy on down. So it's not that ND has an African American head coach that contributions declined it was a combination of things and Willingham really played only a small part (sorry to burst your bubble).

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#139
Aug 7, 2008
 
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I guess my sister-in-law who went to Notre Dame and now works for the Notre Dame Alumni Association is wrong. You in all your glorius wisdom must be right because you use words like conjencture and hearsay. You apparently like to live with blinders on and can't see the forest for the trees. Typical.
It's nice that you all have focused your energy on the Willingham portion of my posts and nothing else--you must agree you are elitist, over-rated, irrelevant snobs and only disagree with my view on Ty. Or, you are protesting so hard because you know I am right. Never seen that tactic before-HA. Thanks for the complement. I've wasted enough of my time arguing with you sheep.
well your sister might want to check her figures because that isnt a make believe PDF, its official. Your just upset because I proved you wrong with evidence to back it up. One elitist fan doesnt represent the entire ND fan base.

All you can do is cry RACE and rip on Weis, who had nothing to do with Willingham's firing. I bet you didnt know TY asked for permission to talk to washington well before he got fired. As someone else also mention TY was greeted with an open checkbook to change up his staff and he didnt.
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well your sister might want to check her figures because that isnt a make believe PDF, its official. Your just upset because I proved you wrong with evidence to back it up. One elitist fan doesnt represent the entire ND fan base.
All you can do is cry RACE and rip on Weis, who had nothing to do with Willingham's firing. I bet you didnt know TY asked for permission to talk to washington well before he got fired. As someone else also mention TY was greeted with an open checkbook to change up his staff and he didnt.
Tom and Tenacious ND, I respect your viewpoints, whether you believe it or not. While your pdf is okay, anyone can't make a pdf with whatever they want on it, just as much as my sister in law can be incorrect on what she told me while working for the NDAA. We will have to agree to disagree on not only Willingham, but the ND football program in general. You are fans, I am certainly not. It is what it is.
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#142
Aug 7, 2008
 
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Yes, he's perceived as arrogant but name a coach who isn't.
I'll name some:

Joe Tiller
Lou Holtz
Joe Paterno
Tony Dungy
Lovie Smith

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Tom and Tenacious ND, I respect your viewpoints, whether you believe it or not. While your pdf is okay, anyone can't make a pdf with whatever they want on it, just as much as my sister in law can be incorrect on what she told me while working for the NDAA. We will have to agree to disagree on not only Willingham, but the ND football program in general. You are fans, I am certainly not. It is what it is.
So now your are telling me that the investment office at The University of Notre Dame has been releasing fake information to cover up a deep race issue with its donors???? come on man thats reaching!

hey, your not one of those 911 conspiracy guys are you???
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So now your are telling me that the investment office at The University of Notre Dame has been releasing fake information to cover up a deep race issue with its donors???? come on man thats reaching!
hey, your not one of those 911 conspiracy guys are you???
Of course not! That would be crazy! Notre Dame, and any other university for that matter, would never try to hide anything. Not dirty recruiting tactics, not improper booster funding, not crimes committed by their athletes, not rubber stamping athletes through classes. All universities are completely open and honest about these things and never try to cover any of them up. So of course there is no way ND would do something like that, right?

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Of course not! That would be crazy! Notre Dame, and any other university for that matter, would never try to hide anything. Not dirty recruiting tactics, not improper booster funding, not crimes committed by their athletes, not rubber stamping athletes through classes. All universities are completely open and honest about these things and never try to cover any of them up. So of course there is no way ND would do something like that, right?
they wouldnt present fictitious endowment data to cover up racism, thats just absurd and you know that. Stop playing the blame game. Ty was fired. was it premature? probably. was if fair? probably not. That is the world of College Football. No coach reguardless of race is immune.

PS. Gilbertson(willinghams predecessor at Washington) put up the same 2 year record as TY and was canned after only 2 seasons, he was White.

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Of course not! That would be crazy! Notre Dame, and any other university for that matter, would never try to hide anything. Not dirty recruiting tactics, not improper booster funding, not crimes committed by their athletes, not rubber stamping athletes through classes. All universities are completely open and honest about these things and never try to cover any of them up. So of course there is no way ND would do something like that, right?
the best thing about TYRONE is that his ass is gone. I bet he is a great person but he was a lazy head coach...complaining about the difficulties of recruiting at Notre Dame rather than going out and recruiting. Charlie sure seems to allure talent to Notre Dame. Sure he can't take every kid with talent, just the ones with talent and intelligence. The others go to Ohio State, Miami, Michigan, USC, Florida and FLorida State, or commit to those programs before entering prison.

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