Coaches look for third wheel at tailback

Full story: Columbus Dispatch

Members of the Ohio State coaching staff are fond of saying that at tailback, they need a "pair and a spare." They've got the pair, in Dan Herron and Brandon Saine.

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cowboy

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Jul 19, 2009
 
i like the martin to tailback move, he kinda reminds me of scott graham, move saine to a wideout/flanker type w/small, there is speed. use herron,martin and hopefully berry in the backfield
Adam Schulz

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Jul 19, 2009
 
What about Jordan Hall?
Jagster

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What, no mention of Jordan Hall?
Bryan Betts

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Jul 19, 2009
 
It's time for Marijuana to be legal. Let Berry play. He is better than Herron & Saine. It's ok for people to get drunk, but not smoke a joint? Alcohol is far more damaging to an athlete's body than marijuana. It is 2009, this is the new form of socialization. LET BERRY PLAY~!
Bryan Betts

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I'm tired of the prevailing "Baby Boomer" mentality in this country. It is time for us to move forward and put them on the shelf to collect dust until they die off. This is 2009. People smoke marijuana, just like people have a drink. The truth is, an athlete can smoke pot the night before practice and show up the next day and be fine. If an athlete were to drink themselves silly the night before a practice they couldn't handle they couldn't handle practice. Not that I am condoning the use of any substance, but this witch hunt against Jamaal Berry needs to end. Berry and Tressell need to have a man to man discussion about his motivation and commitment to the team and hopefully move forward. Nothing constructive can come out of keeping a player in the doghouse. Give him a chance to show what he can do!
michael

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Jul 19, 2009
 
"Bumming me out" Thats great!!
Kyle Nowak

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Jul 20, 2009
 
What about Marcus Williams the walk on from Ironton..or did he graduate?

I really don't think that a power back is going to be needed in our offense. One of the knocks against our offense last year is that it was designed for power back, Chris Wells, and that it did not fit Pryor's game.

So now this season, I think in Herron and Saine we have two backs that will fit very nicely with Pryor. I am really excited to see Herron in the backfield will Terelle, I think he has the ability to get to the edge and also is tough enough to run through the tackles as well.

Saine will provide a speed at the position we haven't seen in quite sometime. I think Herron is a combo back with great potential, remember the last touchdown v. texas?

Still, having a bruiser like Martin in the cabinet is important because we don't need TP puttin his head down to move the pile on 3rd and short, Saine has the durability of an american automobile, and we don't need our feature back getting too banged up like Wells in previous seasons. Overall, I am not worried about the backfield but maybe the wideouts rather?
Hookd_on_phonics _4_bucks

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Jul 20, 2009
 
Wow....how dumb do you have to be to fail to qualify at Tosu???
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Bryan Betts wrote:
I'm tired of the prevailing "Baby Boomer" mentality in this country. It is time for us to move forward and put them on the shelf to collect dust until they die off. This is 2009. People smoke marijuana, just like people have a drink. The truth is, an athlete can smoke pot the night before practice and show up the next day and be fine. If an athlete were to drink themselves silly the night before a practice they couldn't handle they couldn't handle practice. Not that I am condoning the use of any substance, but this witch hunt against Jamaal Berry needs to end. Berry and Tressell need to have a man to man discussion about his motivation and commitment to the team and hopefully move forward. Nothing constructive can come out of keeping a player in the doghouse. Give him a chance to show what he can do!
You go sit on a shelf. Hell 95% of us baby boomers were smoking pot before you were born. It isn't us, its still controlled by the mindset and attitudes of the generation before us.
Andy

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Jul 20, 2009
 
I believe Jordan Hall will be moved to WR, but you would think with him being a rb and teammate of Pryor in high school he would be a possible option, even though he is kind of small.

I like Marcus Williams, but think the article was about scholarship players, that being said, Williams woudldn't be a bad 3rd/4th option, he has played
well in the past 2 spring games.

Go Bucks!
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Jul 21, 2009
 
About Mr. Berry's drug use, and comments related. Neither he, nor his defenders, can move forward without confronting the very real implications of his actions. Illegal drug use by any athelete casts aspersions on his performance and stain the reputation of his team. Every hundred plus yard performance brings forward the drug use story. His foolishness becomes the story, not his accomplishments. Also, his willingness to ignore the law tarnishes his image, and is likely an indicator of future conduct. The circumstances of his arrest indicate a prior course of conduct, breaking the law for how far back we can't know. His association with potheads doesn't make him shine either. Finally, the plain boneheaded stupidity of his actions must be evaluated. Here he finished up a stellar high school career, had landed a scholarship at a major university, and was, perhaps still may be, headed for future opportunity. All this he jeapardizes. The issue now is his character revealed. The question remaining is whether he can, by his future actions, demonstrate such a repentant attitude that we can safely conclude he has charted a new, more responsible course. Those self appointed apologists for his cause do nothing to help the young man turn the corner; instead they rationalize his actions, eroding the application of basic standards of decency that his team mates live by. Tressel is doing it right; he'll give him his chance, because its the right thing to do; but Jamaal has tarnished his own image, by his own conduct. It cannot be repaired by excellence on the field.
Buckeye expat

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michael wrote:
About Mr. Berry's drug use, and comments related. Neither he, nor his defenders, can move forward without confronting the very real implications of his actions. Illegal drug use by any athelete casts aspersions on his performance and stain the reputation of his team. Every hundred plus yard performance brings forward the drug use story. His foolishness becomes the story, not his accomplishments. Also, his willingness to ignore the law tarnishes his image, and is likely an indicator of future conduct. The circumstances of his arrest indicate a prior course of conduct, breaking the law for how far back we can't know. His association with potheads doesn't make him shine either. Finally, the plain boneheaded stupidity of his actions must be evaluated. Here he finished up a stellar high school career, had landed a scholarship at a major university, and was, perhaps still may be, headed for future opportunity. All this he jeapardizes. The issue now is his character revealed. The question remaining is whether he can, by his future actions, demonstrate such a repentant attitude that we can safely conclude he has charted a new, more responsible course. Those self appointed apologists for his cause do nothing to help the young man turn the corner; instead they rationalize his actions, eroding the application of basic standards of decency that his team mates live by. Tressel is doing it right; he'll give him his chance, because its the right thing to do; but Jamaal has tarnished his own image, by his own conduct. It cannot be repaired by excellence on the field.
You're kidding right?!...The kid got busted with a tiny bit of dope. Maybe enough to make a small joint. And you go on this diatribe. If the kid got busted with heroin, meth, or steroids I could maybe see your point. He got high, big deal. It won't make him go faster and won't have an impact on his play. He's a kid like any other 18 year old and if I remember correctly they tend to have fun the summer after graduation. Lighten up Francis!
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Buckeye expat wrote:
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You're kidding right?!...The kid got busted with a tiny bit of dope. Maybe enough to make a small joint. And you go on this diatribe. If the kid got busted with heroin, meth, or steroids I could maybe see your point. He got high, big deal. It won't make him go faster and won't have an impact on his play. He's a kid like any other 18 year old and if I remember correctly they tend to have fun the summer after graduation. Lighten up Francis!
I'm not kidding, at all. You blow this off, you lay the groundwork for future indiscretions. He's not a kid like other 18 year olds! He's a high profile recruit at Ohio State, with a higher degree of scrutiny than your average 18 year old. Tell your own kids to "have fun" after graduation, if you want to; but for the rest, football players are role models. They are bestowed respect. Their transgressions off the field become models of acceptible conduct for others. Back to the issue of character: if he has the ability (humility) to demonstrate a change in his attitude, I'm all for him. If he gets busted in Columbus, where he can buy all the pot he wants, then buy him a ticket to Jamaica. He'll have made his choices and his days at OSU will be over. "Gettin High" is a big deal. On most college campuses, that, and a little possesion, can get a student expelled. We must have a high standard for student atheletes. Compromised character, flaws in judgment, bring the whole program into disrepute. Remember Coop's last couple of year? Remember the thugs he was recruiting? How they displayed their lack of character all over the field that day? lack of character is a big deal! lack of good judgment is a big deal! Rationalizing on Jamaal's behalf is just as big a deal!
Now back to Hope. I hope he does well. Lord knows we need a good running back this year. I hope he learns from this. I hope he listens to Coach Tressel. I hope he makes his family proud, and we see a statue of him on campus 20 years from now. It can happen. But he has to make it happen.

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