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Bob Hunter commentary: Hard to say these Buckeyes disappointed ...

There are 51 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from Mar 28, 2010, titled Bob Hunter commentary: Hard to say these Buckeyes disappointed .... In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

Ohio State coach Thad Matta, shown on television after Friday's loss, tempted fate by relying on a six-man rotation.

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Jurassic Park

Mount Pleasant, SC

#1 Mar 28, 2010
In my opinion, you have to go back to Dennis Hopson's senior season to match what Turner did this year. Hopson averaged nearly 30 a game and led a band of misfits into the second round before bowing out to Georgetown.

Hopefully Evan's NBA career turns out better than Dennis' but with a suspect outside shot and ball handling, I'm not sold he's a lead pipe lock to be a stellar pro.
Arden NC Buckeye

Bostic, NC

#2 Mar 28, 2010
it was a great year for the Buckeyes. Yes, this team could have and should have beaten Tennessee. But you can't take away all the fun they provided throughout the year. As much as I would love to see Turner return, you can't ask him to forgo the millions awaiting in the NBA.
mittymjs

Carlisle, PA

#3 Mar 28, 2010
I'll repeat what I said weeks ago - This was an overachieving team that had a fabulous season that I for one am thankful for. I could not be happier or more proud of this whole group including Matta.
In the end they were one player short of having enough weapons - A big rebounding power forward.
If everybody comes back next season that shotfall is fixed with Sullenger and Louis - big time. We have a LOT to look forward to!!
Now lets turn our attention to the football team who look to be pretty special as well.
Big Buckeye Fan

Chardon, OH

#4 Mar 28, 2010
The Buckeyes were ahead with 5 minutes to go and also ahead at half-time. One crucial time out, a rest or two for a couple of the guys and a slight adjustmnet on that idiotic 1-3-1 in the last 5 minutes could have propelled these guys into today's game. So, as good as Matta was in getting as much as he did from these guys all season, I will remember how bad his decisions were in the last 5 minutes of the game. That's when this one was lost.
John

Longs, SC

#5 Mar 28, 2010
True but things couldn't have set up better for a championship. A Lucasless Michigan State, a Butler who barely beat the Buckeyes without Turner and the winner of WVU-Duke for the championship. All VERY doable. The worst part is I'm sure the players know this and it will eat at them for some time.
It was a great season

Columbus, OH

#6 Mar 28, 2010
Big Buckeye Fan is nuts. Tennessee had a great game plan that took advantage of their size and power inside, they came off our screens better than any team we played this year, and the refs were allowing lots of contact on both ends all game. In the end, no matter how many timeouts Matta took or what defense the Buckeyes played, Tennessee was going to have those advantages. Hunter is right that all we needed was that extra three-pointer and free throw. Jeremie Simmons provided the offensive lift in the first half, but we got killed on defense and rebounding because of the size mismatch while he was in the game, and the was BEFORE Tennessee made their adjustments. Without another power player in the paint to play defense and pick up rebounds, the Buckeyes needed a couple extra shots to fall. They didn't. That's how basketball goes sometimes.

Kudos to the Buckeyes for a season I will always remember the way I remember the 1991-92 season. You had great chemistry, incredible toughness, and exceeded my expectations. To those of you who are leaving (Simmons, Hill, Madsen, Titus, Peters, and probably Turner), thank you for everything you did for this program and best of luck as you move on to the next stages of your life. To the guys coming back: I'm already excited about seeing you play next season.
glen

San Antonio, TX

#7 Mar 28, 2010
No complaints about this team or how it ended. Tennessee is very athletic and strong in the middle. Think about it. Ohio State went this far with NOTHING in the middle. Absolutely NOTHING. Lauderdale blocks a few shots and gets a few rebounds but that is the extent of it. He has no offense at all and is a disaster at the foul line. I'm not blaming him. He shouldn't even be a starter but every time the Buckeyes had the ball it was basically 4 being defended by 5. If it wasn't for Turner's greatness at penetration they wouldn't have gotten this far. Matta got as much as he was ever going to get from this team so I'm not disappointed at all.
ImUrPO

Wellington, OH

#8 Mar 28, 2010
It was a great season wrote:
Big Buckeye Fan is nuts. Tennessee had a great game plan that took advantage of their size and power inside, they came off our screens better than any team we played this year, and the refs were allowing lots of contact on both ends all game. In the end, no matter how many timeouts Matta took or what defense the Buckeyes played, Tennessee was going to have those advantages. Hunter is right that all we needed was that extra three-pointer and free throw. Jeremie Simmons provided the offensive lift in the first half, but we got killed on defense and rebounding because of the size mismatch while he was in the game, and the was BEFORE Tennessee made their adjustments. Without another power player in the paint to play defense and pick up rebounds, the Buckeyes needed a couple extra shots to fall. They didn't. That's how basketball goes sometimes.
Kudos to the Buckeyes for a season I will always remember the way I remember the 1991-92 season. You had great chemistry, incredible toughness, and exceeded my expectations. To those of you who are leaving (Simmons, Hill, Madsen, Titus, Peters, and probably Turner), thank you for everything you did for this program and best of luck as you move on to the next stages of your life. To the guys coming back: I'm already excited about seeing you play next season.
I agree w/most of what you said. However, I don't agree w/you when you said nothing OSU would have done could have changed the outcome. I Love Coach Matta, but he blew the game. There was NO reason, whatsoever, why Jeremy Simmons shouldn't have played in the 2nd half. Think about it, other than Evan Turner, he was the only one hitting shots. In other words, Coach Matta should have put him in the game. Second, OSU should have went to a 2 - 3 Zone. That would have collapsed the paint making it impossible for Tennessee's BIG guy's to score. We all watched the game, Tennesse couldn't shoot outside. Thats the reason we should have went to the Zone. The 1-3-1 worked at the beginning of the game. However, Tennessee solved it. Coach Matta should have recognized that but he didn't. Coach Matta should have sat Diebler down & brought in Simmons. Simmons could have ran the Point & Buford could have slid over to the shooting guard. That would have left Lighty at the other guard spot w/Turner & Lauderdale down low. Coach Matta has to learn how to accept responsibility when he screws up and thats exactly what he did.

With all that being said, I think Ohio States season was a Huge Success !! Co-Champions of the League & BIG 10 Tournament Champs is amazing. I never thought OSU would have done so well at the beginning of the year, but they did. I watched every game this year & it was exciting. I'm very proud of all these guy's. I've said it before & I'll say it again, it was an Honor watching Evan Turner in Scarlet & Gray. I'd Love to see him come back next year, but I wouldn't blame him one bit if he left for the NBA. He deserves everything that he gets.

Can't wait till next year.. GO BUCKEYES !!!
Sammie

Toledo, OH

#9 Mar 28, 2010
Adjustments. Pearl made them Matta did not. That's the problem I have with Matta. Great recruiter and a 'let them roll' coach who lets players free-lance. That's his style, that's some of the best talent want's to play for him and he's been successfull with it.
Problem is he does not make adjustments. Tennessee adjusted their offense 5 minutes in the game and started ounding the ball inside. Yet Matta never even considered playing BOTH Madsen and Lauderdale. TWO (relative) big men in the game to rebound, unheard of!
This is a very frestrating loss since they never made the necessary personel adjustments to keep Tennessee away from their 20 offensive boards.

Thad's a great recruiter, but he is missing John Groce now more than ever!
Big Buckeye Fan

Chardon, OH

#10 Mar 28, 2010
It was a great season wrote:
Big Buckeye Fan is nuts. Tennessee had a great game plan that took advantage of their size and power inside, they came off our screens better than any team we played this year, and the refs were allowing lots of contact on both ends all game. In the end, no matter how many timeouts Matta took or what defense the Buckeyes played, Tennessee was going to have those advantages. Hunter is right that all we needed was that extra three-pointer and free throw. Jeremie Simmons provided the offensive lift in the first half, but we got killed on defense and rebounding because of the size mismatch while he was in the game, and the was BEFORE Tennessee made their adjustments. Without another power player in the paint to play defense and pick up rebounds, the Buckeyes needed a couple extra shots to fall. They didn't. That's how basketball goes sometimes.
Kudos to the Buckeyes for a season I will always remember the way I remember the 1991-92 season. You had great chemistry, incredible toughness, and exceeded my expectations. To those of you who are leaving (Simmons, Hill, Madsen, Titus, Peters, and probably Turner), thank you for everything you did for this program and best of luck as you move on to the next stages of your life. To the guys coming back: I'm already excited about seeing you play next season.
You obviously don't know much about basketball. First, look at the score track on one of the websites and you can see where the mo shifted and when the game was lost. Second, three guys down low would have forced TN to shoot further out where there were not hitting. To counter pts. in the paint you crowd the box and force the ball outside. It's called a triangle and two which collapses the 1-3-1 closer to the basket and gives the backside more help. Or you can call it a 2-1-2. Or a match up zone. Of course being the basketball wizard your are, you already knew that. Why didn't Matta play to bigs inside? Why didn't Matta put PJ in as a chaser on the outside for 30-60 seconds and rest some legs? You can sugar coat it all you want but they had all 16 of the TN players and the refs beat. All Matta had to do was slow the game down, get them a bit of rest, and match TN score for score for 5 minutes. It was a great season yes, but it was 5 minutes from being fantastic.
Joe from Kettering

Dayton, OH

#11 Mar 28, 2010
I gained so very much pleasure from watching this team mature through the year. They did play as a team, not a loose collection of basketball talent. They have proved they could play with and defeat any team in the nation. Any diappointment I feel is for the members of team, not for myself. Thanks, men, for a great season!
Skye

Columbus, OH

#12 Mar 28, 2010
Joe has it right with just a few words!! These young men are the BEST!
MCM

Bronx, NY

#13 Mar 28, 2010
Thanks for a great season guys. It was the most fun team to watch in years. Class players, 4 great shooters (5 counting Simmons), a great shot blocker and a superstar. I think Laudrdale should go to the Tom Izzo school of rebounding. His athleticism and wing span always confused me why he never got more rebounds. With Sullinger and the other guys coming in this will be an awesome team if they can get the chemistry right.
This team had great chemistry, it was like watching an orchestra at times
seamus

Fort Myers, FL

#14 Mar 28, 2010
Now is not the time to be ravenous second guessers.Unless you win the National Championship there will always be some facet of the game you could have improved upon. This is a time to be appreciative of the team and it's coach. You took us for a great ride; we shared many thrills;we can't wait to do it again next year and the year after that and again and again.
buckeye alum 08

United States

#15 Mar 28, 2010
Did anyone see that tenn wanted it more? I sure did the two softest players on our squad Madsen and Diebler had the ball ripped out of their hands the entire game, lose balls forget about em we got none.. and why madsen was in at the end to get the ball tipped in didn even jump didn put his arms up what the hell was that? turner is great but his ball hoggin at the end proves he let all the hype go to his head, he stepped out on the baseline and argued the call with a 7 point lead with four min left, then with less that two min left dribbles in to traffic and loses it, the team that wanted it more won, and there is no doubt that shooting two threes in a row with the last poss was uncalled for, they didnt deserve to win , why the softest guy madsen was on the floor at the end of the biggest game of the season is beyond me, he let the bucks down big time in my opinion
Kyle N

Greenville, SC

#16 Mar 28, 2010
I agree that Matta did not adjust once Pearl and Tennessee figured out the 1-3-1. I think that the buckeyes would have fared better simply playing man-to-man with Dallas Lauderdale and Madsen at times playing together. I also think that the 2-3 or a 2-1-2 (Madsen and Lauderdale down low with Turner roaming the paint) would have also been effective. I surely hope Thad does not do this in the future, but I believe his game plan was we got here with these 5 (or 6) and we are going to play these 5 (or 6) and if we win we win, if we don't...oh well.

Jeremie Simmons should have also played in the second half. Someone mentioned Diebler on here, I think he should have stayed in the game for Lighty.vWhen Simmons was in, he was splitting the ball handling duties with Turner and also providing an offensive spark that was missing with Lighty.
buknut95

Westerville, OH

#17 Mar 28, 2010
Big Buckeye Fan wrote:
The Buckeyes were ahead with 5 minutes to go and also ahead at half-time. One crucial time out, a rest or two for a couple of the guys and a slight adjustmnet on that idiotic 1-3-1 in the last 5 minutes could have propelled these guys into today's game. So, as good as Matta was in getting as much as he did from these guys all season, I will remember how bad his decisions were in the last 5 minutes of the game. That's when this one was lost.
5 minutes......those 5 minutes will leave a bad taste in all of our mouths. Fatigue effects decision making process...fatigue causes shots to be fired up way too soon in half court offense (Buford). You can't take your timeouts into next season so use them. I know it's easy to throw that comment out after the fact but a timeout called would've served many purposes late in that ballgame. 1) Rest for the players 2)Momentum breaker 3) Slowed the game down 4)Allowed coaches to possibly make adjustments ....even though none had been made up to that point. You don't get as far as this group did and say it's okay that we lost because nobody expected much....when you get this far you expect to advance. I'm confident that everyone of those kids on that roster would agree. I am proud of this group of young men and the season they ended up giving buckeye nation....wish I could say the same for the game time decision makers.
buckeye alum 08

United States

#18 Mar 28, 2010
If I could a had a dollar for everytime we got dunked on and our face got screamed in by enthusiastic tennesse players ....happened all night, they just had more heart..
buknut95

Westerville, OH

#19 Mar 28, 2010
buckeye alum 08 wrote:
If I could a had a dollar for everytime we got dunked on and our face got screamed in by enthusiastic tennesse players ....happened all night, they just had more heart..
Well put...."rebounding comes down to nothing more than having more heart than the other guy." If the opponent is going to jump over you all night due to height advantage then put your rear end into him..keep him on your back and win the rebound with good fundamentals." Such a poor performance on the boards...was evident from the very first possession that it was going to be a long night on the glass.
buckeye alum 08

United States

#20 Mar 28, 2010
also why madsen would throw a boune pass after getting thea rebound at the end with all the traffic was a terrible decision

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