Bruins vs. pros? Question begins tugging at UCLA freshman guard...

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Freshman Jrue Holiday's modest stats might suggest a return to UCLA for a sophomore season, but NBA scouts might say something else when they critique the talented guard. Full Story
Henry adams

Bellflower, CA

#1 Mar 22, 2009
are you kidding me holiday is light years away from tjhe pros at campbell hall in a
water down private school league he dominated at the collge level you saw
just how weak his game is no jumpshot no halfcourt game stay in school kid and
develope your game and your life. the ncaa needs to change tahr rule.

“Go BRUINS ”

Since: Jan 09

Manhattan Beach CA

#2 Mar 22, 2009
Henry adams wrote:
are you kidding me holiday is light years away from tjhe pros at campbell hall in a
water down private school league he dominated at the collge level you saw
just how weak his game is no jumpshot no halfcourt game stay in school kid and
develope your game and your life. the ncaa needs to change tahr rule.
I love college basketball, but with the early leaving coupled with the east coast thugball I'm losing interest, Not to mention that they NEVER call palming the ball and rarely traveling.
Not the same game.
GoTr

United States

#3 Mar 22, 2009
I surpriesed how poorly coach team is UCLA. What happen to the big men in their recruiting cless. Morgan, and Gordon.

I expect lot more. That is from USC slumni.

“Go BRUINS ”

Since: Jan 09

Manhattan Beach CA

#4 Mar 22, 2009
GoTr wrote:
I surpriesed how poorly coach team is UCLA. What happen to the big men in their recruiting cless. Morgan, and Gordon.
I expect lot more. That is from USC slumni.
whats slumni?

“America & LEGAL Americans 1st”

Since: Aug 08

Chatsworth

#5 Mar 22, 2009
manhattan_beach_dude wrote:
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I love college basketball, but with the early leaving coupled with the east coast thugball I'm losing interest, Not to mention that they NEVER call palming the ball and rarely traveling.
Not the same game.
I agree totally MBD. These days its like watching a rec league pick up game and the NBA is worse.

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Since: Jan 09

Manhattan Beach CA

#6 Mar 22, 2009
West Valley Dave Smith wrote:
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I agree totally MBD. These days its like watching a rec league pick up game and the NBA is worse.
yah it's a shame.
Only watch the NBA finals if the lakers are in, otherwise Don't watch any pro ball.
TK Bruin

Los Angeles, CA

#7 Mar 22, 2009
Holiday? Pros?! You must be kidding! Man's gotta be able to take care of the ball, not dribble out of control, etc.
BruinNV

Reno, NV

#8 Mar 22, 2009
A big thanks to the graduating Seniors that have represented the university very well and have had extremely successful basketball careers! Hopefully they can all achieve their goals/dreams whatever that may be.
Regarding Jrue Holiday, if he can make the jump now to the L and that is truly what he wants to do at this stage in his development, cheer him on! I didn't think Ariza was ready either and look what he's been able to accomplish. For selfish reasons, of course, I wouldn't mind seeing him become leader of next season's team. It's very hard to see Anderson being the floor general of the immediate future. Maybe he ought to go to Steve Nash's camp which did wonders for D.J Augustin.
I'm looking forward to what Lee/Gordon/Morgan/Anderson will be able to do with one season under the belt. I also like what I hear coming from Morgan after such a lackluster year. We already know what Keefe/Roll/Drago bring to the table and that unfortunately won't be in any type of leadership role. That is something this year's team seemed to lack. Perhaps Gordon or Holiday next year? Somebody is going to have to step up or we will have another "rebuilding" year.
Valley BBall Fan

Pleasanton, CA

#9 Mar 23, 2009
Henry adams wrote:
are you kidding me holiday is light years away from tjhe pros at campbell hall in a
water down private school league he dominated at the collge level you saw
just how weak his game is no jumpshot no halfcourt game stay in school kid and
develope your game and your life. the ncaa needs to change tahr rule.
Campbell Hallís watered down program? You obviously donít know much about Campbell Hall based on your post. There basketball team had one of the toughest schedules in the nation. They play powerhouse teams like Westchester, Mater Dae, Harvard Westlake, Fairfax, Compton, Dominguez, Santa Margarita, St Anthonyís and many others. Campbell Hall has won 3 state titles, 3 CIF titles and numerous league titles. This doesnít sound like a watered down program to me. In addition, 100% of there players graduate and go on to college. I do think Holiday should stay another year and play his true position which is point guard.
Aleks

Fullerton, CA

#10 Mar 23, 2009
Jrue Holiday: Looked comfortable at the beginning of the year against some of the exhibition teams, then he started to miss shots, turn the ball over, and was more of a defensive player than an offensive one. He did look good being the point guard in the game against VCU when Collison sat on the bench because of foul trouble.
Jerime Anderson: Shows promise with ball handling and taking the ball to the basket. He tended to dish the ball of to shooters, who weren't really making their shots so if they had made those shots, he would have had MANY assists.
Drew Gordon: Looks like he could be a good inside man if he starts making shots and plays good defense around the basket.
J'mison Morgan: Looked decent against the exhibition teams but needs to work on shots and defense. Gordon and Morgan, if they both work on shots and defense, we could expect a Jon Brockman-like figure under the basket.
Malcolm Lee: Shows great promise. He showed aggressiveness and made some shots when they were needed in some games.

Obviously the freshman couldn't fill the shoes of Kevin Love, Russell Westbrook, and Luc Richard Mbah a Moute, but they did put out effort for their team. I look forward to seeing how they do next year after another year of practice and conditioning.

“FIGHT ON!!!”

Since: Aug 08

Welcome back, Sark!!!

#11 Mar 23, 2009
Henry adams wrote:
the ncaa needs to change tahr rule.
You mean the NBA needs to change their rule. The NCAA doesn't regulate when a student can drop out, but the NBA stipulates that you aren't eligible for the draft until 1 year after your high school class graduates and 19 years-old by the end of the calendar year of the draft.

But, yes, I agree with you, the NBA needs to change the rule and add at least one more year to that. The "one-and-dones" are going to wreck graduation rates and teams will not be able to develop any sort of consistency.

The only problem, though, is that it may encourage some of the more athletically-gifted-yet-academ ically-lazy players to chase the money and play in Europe. Just the fact that rumors were swirling about LeBron and Kobe considering Europe should be indicative that this is becoming a viable option for some of these guys.

I don't know, what do you guys think?

“Go BRUINS ”

Since: Jan 09

Manhattan Beach CA

#12 Mar 23, 2009
CPEM wrote:
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You mean the NBA needs to change their rule. The NCAA doesn't regulate when a student can drop out, but the NBA stipulates that you aren't eligible for the draft until 1 year after your high school class graduates and 19 years-old by the end of the calendar year of the draft.
But, yes, I agree with you, the NBA needs to change the rule and add at least one more year to that. The "one-and-dones" are going to wreck graduation rates and teams will not be able to develop any sort of consistency.
The only problem, though, is that it may encourage some of the more athletically-gifted-yet-academ ically-lazy players to chase the money and play in Europe. Just the fact that rumors were swirling about LeBron and Kobe considering Europe should be indicative that this is becoming a viable option for some of these guys.

I don't know, what do you guys think?
let them go to Europe, they are killing college basketball!
nice run BTW
Valley BBall Fan

Pleasanton, CA

#13 Mar 23, 2009
Aleks wrote:
Jrue Holiday: Looked comfortable at the beginning of the year against some of the exhibition teams, then he started to miss shots, turn the ball over, and was more of a defensive player than an offensive one. He did look good being the point guard in the game against VCU when Collison sat on the bench because of foul trouble.
Jerime Anderson: Shows promise with ball handling and taking the ball to the basket. He tended to dish the ball of to shooters, who weren't really making their shots so if they had made those shots, he would have had MANY assists.
Drew Gordon: Looks like he could be a good inside man if he starts making shots and plays good defense around the basket.
J'mison Morgan: Looked decent against the exhibition teams but needs to work on shots and defense. Gordon and Morgan, if they both work on shots and defense, we could expect a Jon Brockman-like figure under the basket.
Malcolm Lee: Shows great promise. He showed aggressiveness and made some shots when they were needed in some games.
Obviously the freshman couldn't fill the shoes of Kevin Love, Russell Westbrook, and Luc Richard Mbah a Moute, but they did put out effort for their team. I look forward to seeing how they do next year after another year of practice and conditioning.
You make a very good point. Jrue looked great playing his natural position in the VCU game. I've followed the kid in high school and college. He is a great point gaurd and will do some serious damage at that position. I also know Jrue and his family personally, he's a great kid and down to earth. So I'm a little bias here.
English Teacher

Pleasanton, CA

#14 Mar 23, 2009
GoTr wrote:
I surpriesed how poorly coach team is UCLA. What happen to the big men in their recruiting cless. Morgan, and Gordon.
I expect lot more. That is from USC slumni.
What is "cless" and "slumi"?
dave

United States

#15 Mar 23, 2009
If Holiday had done something this year like maybe average 14pts(which for one and done is not much to ask for)then maybe UCLA could have done better.I hate the one and done in college hoops it hurts college and pros.Holiday is about 3 years away from even being a ok pro,he needs at least 2 more years at UCLA.
Kyled

Carlsbad, CA

#16 Mar 24, 2009
Staying in school to actually become a good player before turning pro is like going deer hunting without your accordion. Is there really any other option?

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