Stuck in bubble

Stuck in bubble

There are 52 comments on the Baltimore Sun story from Feb 25, 2008, titled Stuck in bubble. In it, Baltimore Sun reports that:

You could be the most ardent Maryland supporter or the fiercest Gary Williams defender or have the longest, most bitter memories of the darkness of the post- Len Bias days.

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QuitCryin

Manchester, MD

#41 Feb 25, 2008
Chris wrote:
Doom & Gloomers, tell me why you disagree
2006-7 - Ended the year ranked in the Top 20
2005-6 - NIT, won 19 games, McCray fails out senior season.. could have easily gone to the dance.
2004-5 - NIT, won 19 games, beat Duke twice, Gilchrest goes insane.. could have easily gone to the dance.
2003-4 - Ended the year ranked in the Top 25
2002-3 - Ended the year ranked in the Top 10
2001-2 - National Title
That means 4 out of the last 6 years we have ended in the Top 25, and this year is not over yet.
MD has finished the season ranked in the top 20 in at least one of the two major polls for 11 of the past 14 seasons. They were top 10 in 5 of those seasons.
Williams has made it 12 times in the last 14 years.
I'm not sure how 12 times in 14 years doesn't classify as "perennial tournament team."
I also don't understand why the implosions of Gilchrist and McCray don't provide Williams with some cover for the two NIT years.
MD just barely missed the tourney both years.
Surely we can all agree that MD would have been in if these two guys hadn't had those issues."
We have signed back to back to back quality classes, and are off to a good start with Kim for 2009.
2006 - Vasquez, Hayes, Milbourne ,Osby
2007 - Tucker, Bowie, Dupree, Walker, Burney, Gregory
2008 - Mosley, Gilchrist, Maze, Bowman?
If we do not make the NCAAT this year, oh well that sucks.... but there is plenty of talent here to go forward with.
That's 7 Top 100 players, 4 other Top 150, and several talented JUCOs...
Tell me how that's not a talented core, comprised of a lot locals...
Coach D, and Coach Booth are clearly having recruiting success... tell me why that is not going to continue...
We are starting 3 soph's, and have 6 freshman on the bench...
If the core of this team sticks around, we will be at least Sweet 16 good next year, and National Contender good in '09-'10.
If you disagree with that, tell me why...
2009-10
1 Vasquez
2 Hayes
3 Milbourne
4 Gilchrest
5 Dupree
Tucker, Bowie, Walker, Burney, Mosley, Gregory, Maze
That's not just 12 deep in numbers, that's 12 deep in talent...
If you disagree with that, let me hear why.
If you agree with that, and you can project out how good we can be... why all the constant negativity?
I thought we would be 20-8 right now, so no I am not happy.
I thought Dupree as a Top 75 recruit, would be more ready to make a regular contribution by the second half of ACC play, so no I am not happy.
I am not happy that John Gilchrest, and Chris McCray helped end our string of NCAAT appearances...
I am not happy that all the Gary bashers that were out in full-force prior to the first Final Four, are all back out making the rounds....
I am as irritated today, as I was when people told me after the StVdays Massacre, we would never win with Gary...
We are going to win with this core, and Gary at the helm.
Thank you...GO TERPS !!
steve

United States

#42 Feb 25, 2008
Gary Williams// Brian Billick they seem like brothers to me.
Becarefully Sun!! Gary might stop talking to you. Time for the Terps to look for another coach.
Terps06in VA

Fort George G Meade, MD

#43 Feb 26, 2008
To true fans, our teams are family - to be loved no matter what the result - not the latest bandwagon to jump on when things are going well or a whipping post of "You did this wrong, You did that wrong.." when things dont go as expected. Sadly, looking in the rearview mirror and criticizing is easy and seems to be what most people do best today. Funny how you dont get the same kind of harshness from those who actually coached or played the game. We may not be the most talented team out there but our kids never lack effort or heart. We're in the fight. We have a shot at getting in the tournament this year. Will we? Dont know. Hope so. REalistically, it will be tough going to get there. But we can. And no matter what, the true loyal fans will be behind this team to the end.
Section 116

Detroit, MI

#44 Feb 26, 2008
You're all correct, yet all wrong, too. There isn't a single issue that you can point to regarding this team (or any of Gary's teams). It's a combination of things and a GREAT coach knows how to blend things to eliminate those issues. I hate to say it, but look at Coach K. He doesn't have the strongest or most athletic ball players -- but they win. He knows how to maximize talent and get his players to run his system -- period. Great coaching wins out most every time. I'm not taking a shot at Gary -- he is who he is, which is a Hall of Fame coach. But maybe he needs to look in a mirror and ask himself what has worked in the past and what's not working now. We are all frustrated and hoping for the best, but reality will slap us in the face as we will lose 2 out of the next 3 and the first round of the ACC. So get your tickets for the NIT and let's hope next year is better.
it is just a game

United States

#45 Feb 26, 2008
the important thing is that the kids have fun, and after they graduate...oops, I forgot MD players don't graduate. Wow, maybe they should have learned how to play.
Maryland Fan

AOL

#46 Feb 26, 2008
Maryland was a #4 seed in the NCAA last season and was ranked #18 in the AP final poll.

Yes, I'm OK with that.
Lets Go Terps

San Jose, CA

#47 Feb 26, 2008
This whole topic is ridiculous. Maryland Basketball is consistently the most successful major sports team in the area (Thanks to Gary). Maybe some of you should appreciate what you have and channel the negativity on the area teams that have been consistent losers: Ravens, Orioles, Redskins, Wizards, or Caps...
John

AOL

#48 Feb 26, 2008
Gary Williams = Denny Crum
the end is here
trust me
QuitCryin

Manchester, MD

#49 Feb 26, 2008
it is just a game wrote:
the important thing is that the kids have fun, and after they graduate...oops, I forgot MD players don't graduate. Wow, maybe they should have learned how to play.
OSBY is graduating this year
QuitCryin

Manchester, MD

#50 Feb 26, 2008
Terps06in VA wrote:
To true fans, our teams are family - to be loved no matter what the result - not the latest bandwagon to jump on when things are going well or a whipping post of "You did this wrong, You did that wrong.." when things dont go as expected. Sadly, looking in the rearview mirror and criticizing is easy and seems to be what most people do best today. Funny how you dont get the same kind of harshness from those who actually coached or played the game. We may not be the most talented team out there but our kids never lack effort or heart. We're in the fight. We have a shot at getting in the tournament this year. Will we? Dont know. Hope so. REalistically, it will be tough going to get there. But we can. And no matter what, the true loyal fans will be behind this team to the end.
I stick with the TERPS till the end. It's hard to make the tournament each year...look at the talent some teams have struggling to make it this year (Syracuse) I doubt their calling for Boheims head
jimmy from beltsville

College Park, MD

#51 Feb 26, 2008
QuitCryin wrote:
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OSBY is graduating this year
He should graduate. Not to take away from the young man for getting his degree. I am happy for him and his family. However, he did come in from a JUCO after attending New Mexico. He most likely had 70 credit hrs upon arrival. That's a good head start. Take a look at the four year guys in the program. Can you say the same about Gist?
Steve

Smithfield, NC

#52 Mar 1, 2008
This article is very interesting but I am little confused by it. Last year Maryland had over 20 wins and go in. A few years before they didn't but this was due to the lost of one player during the season name Chris McCray and DJ Strawberry had to learn the PG position. UMD is doing find a NIT birth is not the end of the world sometimes. The problem is Duke, and UNC always get good players and GW has to market his program to stay competitive. With Vasquez and Hayes don't look for the Terps to miss the NCAA while they got decent back court play. Vasquez did not come to UMD for NIT births and neither did Hayes. Clearly the addition of them 2 and do get critized a lot but without them UMD does make the tournament last year, or this year for that fact. The program is okay and with very nice recruits coming in next year this could be an extremly dangerous team hopefully rank coming into the season. I still look for UMD to make some noise in this years tournaments especially the NCAA.

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