Youngsters give Terps different sort of payoff

While the National Invitation Tournament is a losing proposition financially for teams such as Maryland that are sent on the road, the Terrapins got something in return during Tuesday's victory over Minnesota ...

[rickterp]

Don, you have been drinking the Maryland "kool aid" with your "still the NIT" comments. Maryland is an NIT school [3 out of 4 years qualifies] and you have swallowed the excuses eminating from Garyland as if the NCAA was a rite of passage. No, Don. You have to work to acheive goals and Gary stopped working in April 2002. By the way, the site of the 2002 final four was Atlanta not the Carrier Dome.

[Sweet Lazy-ness]

rickterp wrote:

Don, you have been drinking the Maryland "kool aid" with your "still the NIT" comments. Maryland is an NIT school [3 out of 4 years qualifies] and you have swallowed the excuses eminating from Garyland as if the NCAA was a rite of passage. No, Don. You have to work to acheive goals and Gary stopped working in April 2002. By the way, the site of the 2002 final four was Atlanta not the Carrier Dome.

NIT is the trend, the new ceiling. Hmm, the last time we were absent for such a long time from the NCAA's was well Gary's first years....

Only Yow can fix this. Some coaches know when to step off, others just have to be told.

I do not respect Jerry Jones, but the decision to say goodbye to Tom Landry was the right move. His flex defense went from 1st to last in the NFL from 1977 to 1988. He was in a creative rut after years of greatness and well had built up a huge ego.

Some coaches like Bill Parcells, Joe Gibbs, and Jimmy Johnson know when to say when.

The next few years with no change has a high probability of continued NIT results.

Focusing our program on the past is blind. We are an elite university, at least I still believe it. The only flex in this program is continued swing play that stunts player growth.

Gary earned $200k in his first year and is now getting 1.6mil guarenteed. He has been compensated for the work and glory.

Let it go. The university wants every Bball coach to win a championship. This started in the 1960's when we built Cole and hosted the national championship in 1966. Lefty got real close...real close. Not only with the triple OT loss in the 1973 ACC championship but no doubt 1976 would have been one of the greatest teams of all time with Moses Malone.

Its OK, we will be great again. We just have to have the courage to thank and let go.

[Rich]

May I have Cliffnotes for the last post please? For all of you Gary bashers, what do you have to say about Donovan/Fla, after winning back to back titles, not in the tourney this year? What do you have to say about Syracuse, not making it, eventhough the Big East has 8 TEAMS in the tourney this year? Is it because Boheim and Donovan all of the sudden aren't great coaches anymore? Also enlighten us on what you specifically think of next year's recruiting class, and the current 6 freshman and 3 sophomores on the roster? Are they any good/potential?

[Sweet Lazy-ness]

Another point:

MD is a top 25 public university. That is elite.

Mens basketball needs to serve the university mission. Paid scholarships should show a result. In 2002 it meant that the starting 5 all got NBA contracts in that case the purpose served-they are set for life degree or no degree as long as there is enough smarts to manage the money.

Otherwise there needs to be a reasonable ratio of that scholarship money being served to those intent on graduating.

Right now the program does not get an elite grade on graduating players or seeing an NBA contract.

Matter of fact both goals are failing.

That hurts recruiting with both smart kids and NBA hopefuls.

No flexibility these days at MD

With a low results atmosphere what you get is what is left over.

And some of us ranting about the leftover memories that mean nothing to the class 0f 2012.

Time for a change.

Is this really MD?

[Sweet Lazy-ness]

Rich wrote:

May I have Cliffnotes for the last post please? For all of you Gary bashers, what do you have to say about Donovan/Fla, after winning back to back titles, not in the tourney this year? What do you have to say about Syracuse, not making it, eventhough the Big East has 8 TEAMS in the tourney this year? Is it because Boheim and Donovan all of the sudden aren't great coaches anymore? Also enlighten us on what you specifically think of next year's recruiting class, and the current 6 freshman and 3 sophomores on the roster? Are they any good/potential?

I will make it brief for you. The worst rating on players graduating and nobody making the NBA.

Players not developing for five years.

Yes that is what we are selling.

I mean we are selling rival programs. You are welcome GTown.

[Sweet Lazy-ness]

Sweet Lazy-ness wrote:

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I will make it brief for you. The worst rating on players graduating and nobody making the NBA.
Players not developing for five years.
Yes that is what we are selling.
I mean we are selling rival programs. You are welcome GTown.

Sorry I left something out.

MD mens basketball is selling many local programs:

Gtown, George Mason, Mt St. Marys, Coppin St., UMBC....

Yea, it might not be the ACC, but the players are playing elite ball (developing) in their conference and making the dance. Wonder what the graduating ratio is at those schools?

Meanwhile the elite NBA boys are heading out of state. Love to see another Steve Francis, how about some of you?

Leaves us empty and humble. Care to yell (Gary)about that? Who is listening?

[the real problem]

Fire Debbie Yow. She is clueless. You can't fire a legend/icon like Gary. His biggest problem is recruiting. He doesnt like to do it. The real f-up is that his assistants cant even do it because they dont have the budget to. Read Maese's article from the Bmore Sun. The Terps are working with a recruiting budget that seems to be only 1/3 of what it should be. The result is that they are playing with only 1/3 of the talent.