Michael Arace commentary: Defeat is hard to bear, but hardly un...

There are 15 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from Feb 18, 2010, titled Michael Arace commentary: Defeat is hard to bear, but hardly un.... In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

There are nights when Value City Arena comes alive, when the regular fans rise to stand with the students, and their collective roar is akin to a fleet of Pratt & Whitney engines.

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“Bleeding Scarlet and Gray!”

Since: Sep 09

Worthington

#21 Feb 18, 2010
Go Bucks wrote:
Big Ten school, division 1 right??? and we have 6 players that can play a game? SAD !!!! Lighty and Buford should have sat for a while and give Hill and Simmons a few minutes, just to see if either one of them could get hot...also, why can't we get an offensive board???
I'm not big on the whole bench argument, but I do agree with the lack of offensive (and defensive for that matter) rebounding. Every time we took an outside shot we started backing up instead of following the shot. I was taught when I started playing basketball at 5 to follow my shot.

Since: Jan 10

Greenville Ohio

#22 Feb 18, 2010
ImUrPO wrote:
I'm so sick of watching Evan Turner do everything for Ohio State. It would be nice if he had ANY help whatsoever. Lauderdale, Lighty & Buford Sucked last night. I expect it out of Lauderdale, but Lighty's suppose to be a veteran on this team. How many turnovers is this kid gonna have. He can't go through 1 game without a traveling call. When Lauderdale blocked that ball & Lighty picked it up & somehow lost the ball, which went out of bounds, that was a BIG moment that Lighty blew !! In big games, Lighty gets all worked up & he does nothing but hurt the team. How can you go through the whole game with 4 pts & 3 turnovers ?? Thats horrible.
I told everyone OSU was going to be in trouble when they played a team that had a good center/inside game. JaJuan had his way with Lauderdale. Lauderdale looked good against Indiana, but guess what, OSU isn't going to see teams as bad as Indiana come March. Lauderdale had 3 pts, 3 rebounds & 2 turnovers !! Thats just down right bad !! Oh, for all you people who call him a "role player", whats his role ?? he played 31 minutes & those are his stats.
As for Diebler, you have to make that shot. He couldn't have been anymore wide open than he was. With that being said, Diebler looks like he's improving. I like the fact that he's looking at driving the ball to the rim instead of settling for the 3's all the time. I will complain that he's 6'6 & he grabbed 3 rebounds. Come on Jon, Man Up !!
Thank God we have Evan Turner. We would have lost by 20 last night if he didn't play. These other guy's better start looking at themselves in the mirror & figure a way to start helping him out. He actually looked tired & beat up last night. I can't blame him, he's playing every minute of every game. Except when he's in foul trouble.
Hopefully the guys can have a good couple practices & come out against Michigan State with a different attitude / game !!!
GO BUCKEYES
I have to ask: How many games have you played at this level in any sport, or any sport at any level?
Some nights you have it and some nights you don't. To knock David Lighty like you did is unacceptable. David has played his heart out for this team and for us this year. All of our 40 minute players were drained at the end or we would have blown Purdue out in the last ten minutes. We are extremely thin and it is compounded by Matta's puzzling insistence on playing these four guys forty minutes. If we are going to have a good Big Ten tournament and do well in the NCAA's Thad has to find some way to rest each of these players for a few minutes in the second half. Simmons and P.J. aren't all-stars but they can hold their own. We have to use these guys
Morons

Columbus, OH

#23 Feb 18, 2010
David Lighty did nothing but hold a first team all Big Ten player to 4 points. Without him, we lose by 20.
BS Detective

Dublin, OH

#24 Feb 18, 2010
"The Buckeyes know how well they can play. They know how poorly they can play. They know how much they can get away with. With this knowledge, there is power, and we'll see whether Matta can harness it heading into East Lansing on Sunday, and beyond."

So does everybody else in the country. Purdue exposed Ohio State. Take Evan Turner out of the mix and the rest of the team falls apart.

And Diebler's wrong: it wasn't "just one of those games." This was a touchstone. This was a major showdown late in the season with everything on the line. You have "one of those games" after you beat Purdue and Michigan State to all but lock up the conference title. You have a let down against a team like Penn State.

It's not the end of the world but as a basketball fan I lost a lot of respect for this team and its coach.

“Bleeding Scarlet and Gray!”

Since: Sep 09

Worthington

#25 Feb 18, 2010
BS Detective wrote:
"The Buckeyes know how well they can play. They know how poorly they can play. They know how much they can get away with. With this knowledge, there is power, and we'll see whether Matta can harness it heading into East Lansing on Sunday, and beyond."
So does everybody else in the country. Purdue exposed Ohio State. Take Evan Turner out of the mix and the rest of the team falls apart.
And Diebler's wrong: it wasn't "just one of those games." This was a touchstone. This was a major showdown late in the season with everything on the line. You have "one of those games" after you beat Purdue and Michigan State to all but lock up the conference title. You have a let down against a team like Penn State.
It's not the end of the world but as a basketball fan I lost a lot of respect for this team and its coach.
Good thing they don't need your respect to prove they can make a run into the tournament.
BS Detective

Dublin, OH

#26 Feb 18, 2010
FLABUCK wrote:
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Good thing they don't need your respect to prove they can make a run into the tournament.
They don't need it for that. I don't think anybody believes they're going to make much of a run because they haven't played too many good teams this year and they certainly haven't beaten anybody worthwhile. The earlier win over PU was negated last night and Michigan State was nursing injuries.

The Buckeyes need to worry about my respect when it comes to selling tickets. I went to the game last night. I can only make 3-4 games a year but I like to support the team in person even though the seating at VCA is a joke. After the first half I wanted a refund. The second half was better, but I wasn't surprised to see PU hang on.

And let me tell you something, dipwad, it's apologists like you who foster this trend of coming up short. I don't care about a loss. That happens but when a team doesn't show up to play that's wrong. I'm not going to let these guys off the hook. That kind of effort is unacceptable. Play hard for 40 minutes or don't suit up. That's what I expect and that's what we should get. You can have your 20 wins, putting on a clinic over Presbyterian and Lipscomb doesn't impress me. I'd rather see the Buckeyes go 16-16 every year and play hard than go 23-9 and lay eggs like that stinker last night.
Tom

Delaware, OH

#27 Feb 18, 2010
I bet we win this game at St John's Arena.
katy

Columbus, OH

#28 Feb 18, 2010
Morons wrote:
David Lighty did nothing but hold a first team all Big Ten player to 4 points. Without him, we lose by 20.
you do know that OSU played alsmost all zone last night right? So i would say it was more of a team thing then Lighty shutting him down
BS Detective

Dublin, OH

#29 Feb 18, 2010
katy wrote:
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you do know that OSU played alsmost all zone last night right? So i would say it was more of a team thing then Lighty shutting him down
Also, it doesn't really matter when you let one of the other player light you up like a roman candle.

“Bleeding Scarlet and Gray!”

Since: Sep 09

Worthington

#31 Feb 18, 2010
BS Detective wrote:
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They don't need it for that. I don't think anybody believes they're going to make much of a run because they haven't played too many good teams this year and they certainly haven't beaten anybody worthwhile. The earlier win over PU was negated last night and Michigan State was nursing injuries.
The Buckeyes need to worry about my respect when it comes to selling tickets. I went to the game last night. I can only make 3-4 games a year but I like to support the team in person even though the seating at VCA is a joke. After the first half I wanted a refund. The second half was better, but I wasn't surprised to see PU hang on.
And let me tell you something, dipwad, it's apologists like you who foster this trend of coming up short. I don't care about a loss. That happens but when a team doesn't show up to play that's wrong. I'm not going to let these guys off the hook. That kind of effort is unacceptable. Play hard for 40 minutes or don't suit up. That's what I expect and that's what we should get. You can have your 20 wins, putting on a clinic over Presbyterian and Lipscomb doesn't impress me. I'd rather see the Buckeyes go 16-16 every year and play hard than go 23-9 and lay eggs like that stinker last night.
They have played their butts off this entire stretch through the Big Ten. Last night, they had an off night. The played one game where in the first half they didn't play up to your standards. They still only lost by 3 to the 4th ranked team in the country, who mind you is 4-0 against top ten opponents. Yes, they played some cupcakes to start the season, but they have still won a lot of games against strong opponents. So if you are Purdue, are you unhappy with the win last night because it was negated by their loss in the first game? No, you are just another what have you done for me lately kind of person who doesn't see that a great team can have a down night. They showed a lot of marbles coming back and getting back into the game. I'm not really one for moral victories as most are not, but I do see when a team has the talent to make a run in the tourney, and this team does. So let me ask you this...if we finish well in March are you going to come back and say you were wrong? Probably not, you will be like the idiots on here before the Rose Bowl that said OSU didn't have it and they would get waxed, then they disappeared once the team proved them wrong. It's ok though, it eliminates the wannabe coaches that think they know what they are talking about. I personally recognize a good coach, and leave it up to the guy that is with the team on a day to day basis to make the decisions. I think he knows what he is doing, moreso than the guy who catches a few games a year.
katy

Columbus, OH

#32 Feb 18, 2010
flabuck - i think why people are so upset is that we have all the talent in the world and other then one magical year we have not had anything to cheer for. One Sweet 16 with this much talent gives us the right to question Matta and the choices his makes. Last years team should have at least won a game in the NCAA, in 2006, playing in Ohio, we should have gotten to the Sweet 16. Both those games we were outcoached. Even in 2007 it took a miracle shot to advance. OSU has not won a game in the NCAA in two full years with some very good and talented teams. So yes, it is fair to question the coach.
ImUrPO

Ashland, OH

#33 Feb 18, 2010
Old Buckeye wrote:
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I have to ask: How many games have you played at this level in any sport, or any sport at any level?
Some nights you have it and some nights you don't. To knock David Lighty like you did is unacceptable. David has played his heart out for this team and for us this year. All of our 40 minute players were drained at the end or we would have blown Purdue out in the last ten minutes. We are extremely thin and it is compounded by Matta's puzzling insistence on playing these four guys forty minutes. If we are going to have a good Big Ten tournament and do well in the NCAA's Thad has to find some way to rest each of these players for a few minutes in the second half. Simmons and P.J. aren't all-stars but they can hold their own. We have to use these guys
"Old" Buckeye,

First & foremost, what does this have to do with me playing sports ? For the record I did play football, basketball & baseball in high school. Lettered 3 years in all of them. However, that has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. All I'm saying is David Lighty is a veteran on this team. Like it or not, thats just the way it is. Consistancy is all I'm asking for. The performance he had last night was UnAcceptable !! I'm tired of him turning the ball over with his famous stand still approach to the rim. Its called basketball 101, dribble the ball before you take a step !!! I'll never dispute that he gives everything he has when he's on the court. I love him because of his defense, but it would be nice if he can have some offense in the BIG games ! My biggest concern is Dallas Lauderdale ! This kid is hurting his team. He's not aggressive at all. I very seldom see him pull down rebounds & he was dominated by JaJuan last night & thats the reason Matta went to a zone.

I did notice Evan looked worn out towards the end of that game. All I'm trying to say is, someone needs to help this kid. If you look at him, he's always holding his back because he continuously carries this team.
K-Dog

Napa, CA

#34 Feb 18, 2010
Don't sugar coat this loss. The buckeyes needed to win this game to capture the Big Ten crown. There was no excuse to let Purdue out hustle the hometown Bucks. There is no moral victory in this loss Michael Arace. There is no good "learning experience" from this loss. It was a deflation that is caused by not preparing. Coach - The buckeye fans blame you for this loss. Go get em bucks!
OSUfan

Columbus, OH

#35 Feb 19, 2010
laughingatcowlumbus wrote:
Wow Purdue really has the luckeyes number, in all sports!
Not quite. The Bucks beat Purdue on their own court just a few weeks ago. And I wouldn't bet on Purdue winning at Ohio Stadium this fall. No way.
Tim

Marion, IN

#36 Feb 19, 2010
Haha to the guy who said Purdue had OSU's number in all sports.... how many national championships have they won?

A 1-2 record in football/basketball against a team OSU traditionally dominates in football isn't bad, especially since Purdue has a better basketball team than OSU.

And Lighty is a great defender, but should never handle the ball or shoot. Ever.

And playing Dieber, Turner, Lighty, and Buford 40 minutes a night will run those guys dry in March.... I'm figuring a second round exit.

PT for Simmons and Hill, please, even if just to rest Turner and Buford.

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