Ellis, Curry lead Warriors to win over Bucks

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Monta Ellis and Stephen Curry combined for 15 points in the final 4:38 and the Golden State Warriors rallied to beat the Milwaukee Bucks 100-94 Thursday night.

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Shelly Rae

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hmmmm, while we teach our children to protest and support their beliefs, we should also teach them fiscal responsibility and some decisions which are made that are difficult, may hurt a few but keep the program in tack for the majority.

Obviously, it is not constructive in this economic environment other then personal publicity.
GS Leader

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I was a delegate to the Girl Scout Council's annual meeting last weekend. There was a motion to require the Board of Directors to halt and reconsider the sale of the camps. This motion was thoroughly debated and a vote was taken. The motion failed because while many of us have strong emotional ties to one or more camps, we understand that the Council does not need 12 camps in times of decreasing use and falling revenue. There were two camps near the metro area on the east side of the Council - Camp Lakamaga and Camp Rolling Ridges. The Council chose to keep Lakamaga, which is suitable for day camp and resident camp and sell Rolling Ridges which is suitable only for day camp. I'm sad to see Rolling Ridges go, but I understand the reasoning. From what I can tell, this protest is led by a few adults who either think that nothing should ever change or that selling camps is fine as long as it's not MY camp (I note that the person who is apparently leading this protest is aligned with the "Friends of Rolling Ridges". I'm pretty sure she would not be protesting if the council had chosen to keep Rolling Ridges and sell Camp Singing Hills, which is the only Girl Scout Camp serving Girl Scouts in southwestern Minnesota,
Torn Leader

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While I have taught my troop fiscal responsiblity by only doing what we can afford through cookie sales, it is not only the sale of camps that has me concerned. Are you aware of the fact the badge program is on its way out or that while recently our Gold Award was recognized as an equal to the Eagle Award, we have "dumbed it down" to make it easier to achieve or that the council charges extra to register for a program (i.e. at the Science Museum)than you could register directly through the facility. It is sad that camps are being sold, but I dont think that that is the biggest problem. I believe, and I'm not alone, that our problem is that GSUSA is changing EVERYTHING that says Girl Scouts. Ok we drive a little farther to go to camp, but no badge work? Make it "EASIER" to achieve the highest awards? My question is this...What would Juliette Do?
Former Scout

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Feb 4, 2011
 
Why, when organizations like this are already struggling, do these people want to contaminate its major funding source?

Ms. Zaiman, your arguments are ridiculous. I will be buying more cookies this year than ever before!
Larry Hammer

Inver Grove Heights, MN

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It's sad when they have to sell camps, but if it keeps the Girl Scouts around for a long time, it's what must be done. My kids have had scouting (both boys and girls) in their life since they were very young. It has made them great adults and I back them 100% in their decision.
OneWhoWonders

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My girls attended Rolling Ridges as a day camp. It was close to the SE Metro and a great camp, even when it was so old and tiny they only had one little building as a meeting spot for the girls, and the old farm building for the caddy's (youth leaders) to overnight. They also attended the new camp with all it's new facility.

Having the camp close to us (@ 45 minutes to an hour drive) was great for the kids to attend camp that featured girl scout values and learning. The opportunity for a Day Camp for the East Metro was a gem, but more then that, it was NEEDED. They looked forward to that camp, they looked forward to being caddys and disguising their true names.

If my girls were young, would I allow them to day camp at Camp Lagamaga, no. It is a lot farther for the south metro to go, not feasible for a DAY CAMP.

Wish I knew what troop was doing the hold off on selling cookies, because I would send them a check for their troop. They are taking a stand, and using the only means it sounds like the Girl Scout Council is looking at: money. Years ago, the Council for our area was just for us, the east side of the Metro. It changed and so did the support we had. Very disappointing.
eee

Duluth, MN

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Way to go mom and dad, lets teach them early if they don't get what they want....STRIKE, walk out on the man....pathertic, another generation of stikers.
Why couldn't you show them how to negotiate and resolve...
eee

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They had to sell the camps because times are tough and money is tight....Now, you teach your kids to strike....in tough times, be sure to teach them the benefits of your results....The scouts will have less money due to lost sales and more fun will stop being available....
DMich

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EEE, you might want to get your facts straight before you post. The girls and others have been trying for months to get informaion from the Council. The council has not been forth coming with there finances when it comes to this issue. They are also selling camps way below market value. These girls are making a statement to this council that they don't trust them with their money. I will gladly support these girls, but I won't support a very mismanaged council. It is your choice if you want to.
thornbush

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Feb 5, 2011
 
What occurred before the cookie boycott?
First of all it might be helpful to know that our current GS Council is approx. the lower half of MN and parts of western WI. This area used to be 5 separate councils until GSUSA told us we had to merge in 2007.
I have met Girl Scouts from all 5 legacy GS Councils. I know many of the volunteers in FoRVC (Friends of River Valleys Camps). These are truly wonderful volunteers. Their interests are for ALL the girls, not just the area they live in but including the Girl Scouts from southwestern MN who are under-represented in respect to camp facilities. Many people have asked why the volunteers are upset. Girl Scouts is a volunteer organization however the GS Board and council did not inform the volunteers prior to making this huge decision to sell camps. The volunteers then asked many questions and the council gave answers BUT did not really answer the questions. I know FoRVC volunteers that spent many hours on presentations including but not limited to ways the volunteers could work with the council to fundraise, promote camp, and support Girl Scouts. Volunteers from 32 Service Units (a service unit is basically all the troops in a school dist. or area) wrote a letter asking to meet with the Girl Scout Board. The GS Board refused to meet with the volunteers. Many of these volunteers then proposed a motion to change the bylaws so the Delegates (volunteers with voting rights) could have a voice in major decisions and another motion to put a hold on the property decision to give the volunteers a chance to use their resources, time and talents to come up with alternatives. The Board/Council convinced the majority of the voting members that they should vote no on both of these motions. Now the volunteers have no voice and no voting rights in major decisions. I truly hope the Board/Council will open their minds and work with the volunteers.
OCnTN

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Feb 7, 2011
 
Sorry folks, I won't buy GS cookies until they are cost effective once again. Over the years, the box size has shrunk and the price has gone up. They used to be comparable to other cookies, but not any more.

I think someone has gotten greedy, and it's not the girls. How much does the troop make off each box anyways?
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Feb 7, 2011
 
It seems to me that all those camps are donated to Girl Scouts for use. Other alternatives are available. They could rent to the public.
wow

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Feb 7, 2011
 
The cookies are another story.
Dr Dan

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Please do us all a favor, stop selling the cookies. They are dry and crappy. By the way, why is it always the Mothers selling the cookies? What does that teach your children?????
mema

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Feb 8, 2011
 
GS Leader wrote:
I was a delegate to the Girl Scout Council's annual meeting last weekend. There was a motion to require the Board of Directors to halt and reconsider the sale of the camps. This motion was thoroughly debated and a vote was taken. The motion failed because while many of us have strong emotional ties to one or more camps, we understand that the Council does not need 12 camps in times of decreasing use and falling revenue. There were two camps near the metro area on the east side of the Council - Camp Lakamaga and Camp Rolling Ridges. The Council chose to keep Lakamaga, which is suitable for day camp and resident camp and sell Rolling Ridges which is suitable only for day camp. I'm sad to see Rolling Ridges go, but I understand the reasoning. From what I can tell, this protest is led by a few adults who either think that nothing should ever change or that selling camps is fine as long as it's not MY camp (I note that the person who is apparently leading this protest is aligned with the "Friends of Rolling Ridges". I'm pretty sure she would not be protesting if the council had chosen to keep Rolling Ridges and sell Camp Singing Hills, which is the only Girl Scout Camp serving Girl Scouts in southwestern Minnesota,
Maybe you then, can explain to the rest of us why the National Girl Scout head office has to have some of the most expensive real estate in the country in Manhattan? Why the Girl Scouts do not advertise more to get members? And then start selling off camps and/or other assets because of the economy. This argument would resonate more if the national office was located in say, Sioux Falls.
mema

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Feb 8, 2011
 
Shelly Rae wrote:
hmmmm, while we teach our children to protest and support their beliefs, we should also teach them fiscal responsibility and some decisions which are made that are difficult, may hurt a few but keep the program in tack for the majority.
Obviously, it is not constructive in this economic environment other then personal publicity.
Why is the National Headquarters for the Girl Scouts located in Manhattan? Is there not somewhere way less expensive they could relocate in the name of fiscal responsibility?? While we are at it, lets publish the salaries of the people who have offices in Manhattan.
Torn Leader

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Feb 9, 2011
 
OCnTN wrote:
Sorry folks, I won't buy GS cookies until they are cost effective once again. Over the years, the box size has shrunk and the price has gone up. They used to be comparable to other cookies, but not any more.
I think someone has gotten greedy, and it's not the girls. How much does the troop make off each box anyways?
Girls at the troop level receive only 50 cents per box!

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