“Timshel”

Since: Jan 12

Tulsa, OK

#60344 Feb 7, 2013
Ok...Pau is out. Dwight should really stay out as back injuries and surgeries are no joke at all so...D'Antoni loves this scenario now as he will finally be able to run HIS sysytem of small ball run and gun. I'm sure he wishes no ills or injuries to his players but this is inevitably what he's been needing to happen to implement his system 100%.

This could actually turn into something decent because we have enough to run it.

“Timshel”

Since: Jan 12

Tulsa, OK

#60345 Feb 7, 2013
Showtime wrote:
<quoted text> Pau is still good I am not disputing hes not a good player, but like you just pointed out and I already said a few times, the guy is messed up with all the rumors, he also now is complaining about not starting, although hes starting right now but hes clearly not happy with his role, I dont know if you noticed that but I live in LA I listen to the local radio, and I can see it hes not happy, I agree D'antoni isn't the right coach, all I am saying is, if there is a deal out there you gotta deal this guy now, I would have a serious problem if pau ends up being out center and Dwight leaves, his defense is awful thats my main thing.
As for nash, adjust sure, but adjust and be as a affective as the old steve nope! Steve looks just like I predicted, a fish out of water, he looks more like a shooting guard now, he looks like he struggling to be a pg, but I will say hes much better than fisher, hes basically playing the fisher role, but much better! so I guess we can leave it at that.
Fair enough. So how do you see Nash going forward? Big men or at least 1 of them is out so D'Antoni's system will now be in full effect as long as Dwight tries to get better. Does the Phoenix Nash rise again?
Showtime

San Gabriel, CA

#60346 Feb 7, 2013
rrenault wrote:
<quoted text>
We know I do!! he he he
Pau has a lot left in his tank, the key to the two bigs is the system, it wasn't Pau going to bench.
I disagree with a lot stuff you wrote, but like I said those were my 2 cents to that post I'm not going pass it.
The usual agree disagree leave it at that.
Well I admit I am a bit upset about how the season has gone for my niners and the lakers so I am a bit uptight about one of my teams not performing the way they are suppose to, I just think out of all of them pau seems to be the one who is a bit of a misfit, also he is not gonna be happy coming off the bench, so I feel bad for the guy, I do hope it works out and he can stay, I love pau as a person.
Showtime

San Gabriel, CA

#60347 Feb 7, 2013
rrenault wrote:
<quoted text>
HA HA HA Touché, well played my friend well played.
Yeah who ever finish is what matter most, but I believe Pau has bend backward for Dick'antoni and his stupid system, as he did before for brown and the Lakers front office, he should be treated better,same goes for the Lakers from office. They should let Pau know what's up it's in their best interest to have a worry free Pau.
Saddly is the media that creates all this Pau rumors and they make sure it rub them in his face to sell something.
I agree with you what we said doesn't matter 100%, Lakers front office claims that they already have a plan for 2015, if this is true then we know what more likely is going to happen.
I agree D'antoni sucks so many levels, not only is the reason why the Lakers are struggling and are not going to win anything more likely this season, as long as he keeps thinking his system is the way to go, but it could cost the Lakers resigning Howard.
There is a reason why D'antoni has never won jack even when his team was favorite to win.
I will give D'antoni credit for the lakers moving the ball better, I do believe that is part of his system everyone moves the ball around the way they are doing it right now. I think kobe had to adjust his game cause its not just pau but kobe does not fit in D'antoni system, cause kobe hangs on to the ball too much or at least he use to, so I will credit D'antoni system with making kobe a better player in my opinion, kobe is more dangerous like this. other than that D'antoni falls short as a guy who has control of a team, he is a nice guy and maybe too nice, hes afraid to take full control, hes more o fa teacher rather than a leader, and I can go on but what for we both know where he falls short.
Showtime

San Gabriel, CA

#60348 Feb 7, 2013
_Jusayin_ wrote:
Ok...Pau is out. Dwight should really stay out as back injuries and surgeries are no joke at all so...D'Antoni loves this scenario now as he will finally be able to run HIS sysytem of small ball run and gun. I'm sure he wishes no ills or injuries to his players but this is inevitably what he's been needing to happen to implement his system 100%.
This could actually turn into something decent because we have enough to run it.
Lets see how much he loves it when he starts losing again lol, makes you roll your eyes doesn't it? lol D'antoni was in a plot to take them both out lets just be honest haha jk....you know the scary thing is its not just pau and Dwight that dont fit into a fast pace system, its kobe and metta as well, kobe doesn't like moving around to get open, that is not his styel, he likes getting the ball and holding on to it and doing what he will do with it, metta same thing, I just hope mitch and jim realize this for next season.
Showtime

San Gabriel, CA

#60349 Feb 7, 2013
_Jusayin_ wrote:
<quoted text>
Fair enough. So how do you see Nash going forward? Big men or at least 1 of them is out so D'Antoni's system will now be in full effect as long as Dwight tries to get better. Does the Phoenix Nash rise again?
If the D'antoni system is in full affect hell yes the Nash shall rise again lol . HOwever! lets not forget whos the big chief here, thats kobe, kobe is the whole key to this thing, he really does not fit in the D'antoni system , Kobe can fit into any system if he wants to, but for kobe to fit in the D'antoni system hes gotta become a role player, like let steve handle the ball and move around and get open for shots kind of like rip hamilton does, but thats not really kobes style, he likes to post, he likes to just get the ball and do his thing. I feel for nash cause hes not use to having all of these stand still players around, this is hell for a guy like nash who loves dishing it out, hes been a true professional love the guys attitude . My prediction tho is that D'antoni will not mess with whats working, hes gonna keep running the offense through kobe, but he may ask them to go a little faster now, but even now we cant compete with the speed of other teams, so its a big mess. It will be interesting tho lets see what happens.

“Timshel”

Since: Jan 12

Tulsa, OK

#60350 Feb 7, 2013
Showtime wrote:
<quoted text> Lets see how much he loves it when he starts losing again lol, makes you roll your eyes doesn't it? lol D'antoni was in a plot to take them both out lets just be honest haha jk....you know the scary thing is its not just pau and Dwight that dont fit into a fast pace system, its kobe and metta as well, kobe doesn't like moving around to get open, that is not his styel, he likes getting the ball and holding on to it and doing what he will do with it, metta same thing, I just hope mitch and jim realize this for next season.
Haha! You never know with D'Antoni!

Tru Kobe now and MWP don't fit in a fast paced run around like RIP and Ray but we've seen MWP be allowed to hover around the 3pt line and basically be a kick out shooter and it's worked in MD's system.

Kobe can now be our "big man" posting up. If Dwight stays out(for his own good)Kobe will have nobody to differ to down low. He'll be the man on the blocks as many times as he wants and we know he can drive and make the D collapse then kick.

If we can get our last 1 or 2 no name bigs to play some decent D our offense should put up points in bunches while letting the ball do most of the work which keeps our oldies with some gas at the end of games.
Dwhite12 LA Slowtime

Ocoee, FL

#60351 Feb 7, 2013
http://allball.blogs.nba.com/2013/02/06/kobe-...

almst a celtic...disgusting seeing him in green, but than yu can have a great laugh as they passed on him
Sammy

Acton, Canada

#60352 Feb 7, 2013
rrenault wrote:
<quoted text>
Well he is not out for the season, a lot of teams would love to have him in mid march.
His trade value is not going decrease, a playoffs contender could have him back 100% by may.
Lakers included if they managed to get in a playoffs spot.
Explain how teams can have him in Mid March.
Sammy

Acton, Canada

#60353 Feb 7, 2013
Bewitched wrote:
Sammy, your boy had a good night last night against Charlotte. TT went 17-9-3. Cavs have climbed up out of the basement. lol
Yea B I caught that. Seems you guys doing alright of late.

“Rough road ahead”

Since: Aug 07

Location hidden

#60354 Feb 7, 2013
_Jusayin_ wrote:
Ok...Pau is out. Dwight should really stay out as back injuries and surgeries are no joke at all so...D'Antoni loves this scenario now as he will finally be able to run HIS sysytem of small ball run and gun. I'm sure he wishes no ills or injuries to his players but this is inevitably what he's been needing to happen to implement his system 100%.
This could actually turn into something decent because we have enough to run it.
I thought Howard problem was shoulder not back.

Well, good for D'antoni cause now he can make a case why the Lakers should trade Pau and don't resign Howard at the end of the season.

I'll love to see him selling this to the front office and how many titles he will win for them, like he did for Phoenix and N.Y...oh wait!

Boston is cripple too Lakers may have shot at this.

“Rough road ahead”

Since: Aug 07

Location hidden

#60355 Feb 7, 2013
Sammy wrote:
<quoted text> Explain how teams can have him in Mid March.
Well six weeks is month and half right? we are in Feb, six week put him around mid March or the end of March.

He still would have all April to get in shape, that's how I picture it.
Black Mamba

United States

#60356 Feb 7, 2013
Sammy wrote:
<quoted text> Explain how teams can have him in Mid March.
What's up Sam. Here are my winners for tonight. Lakers over Smelltics(very close and chippy game). Chicken Nuggets over Steers (Nuggets are great at home and MCGee is going for 40 lol).

“Rough road ahead”

Since: Aug 07

Location hidden

#60357 Feb 7, 2013
Dwhite12 LA Slowtime wrote:
http://allball.blogs.nba.com/2 013/02/06/kobe-once-tried-on-a -little-celtic-green/?ls=iref: nbahppt
almst a celtic...disgusting seeing him in green, but than yu can have a great laugh as they passed on him
Yeah I'm glad they didn't have some that could scout talent...lol

By the way I love this part "Forum blue and gold of the Lakers"

First Forum?, second Blue?...what hell!

At least MR. jeff Case not from here got the gold part right...lol
Black Mamba

United States

#60358 Feb 7, 2013
rrenault wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah we don't get to catch a break if not the coaching is the players health.
Clark has been nice surprise this season, I hope we have another one cause with Pau and Howard out we need some one else to step up.
I hope so because this injury bug seems as it's been with us all season. Clark is going to continue to play well and I wouldn't be shocked I'd he is the starter next year if Gasol is gone.
Black Mamba

United States

#60359 Feb 7, 2013
Showtime wrote:
<quoted text> If the D'antoni system is in full affect hell yes the Nash shall rise again lol . HOwever! lets not forget whos the big chief here, thats kobe, kobe is the whole key to this thing, he really does not fit in the D'antoni system , Kobe can fit into any system if he wants to, but for kobe to fit in the D'antoni system hes gotta become a role player, like let steve handle the ball and move around and get open for shots kind of like rip hamilton does, but thats not really kobes style, he likes to post, he likes to just get the ball and do his thing. I feel for nash cause hes not use to having all of these stand still players around, this is hell for a guy like nash who loves dishing it out, hes been a true professional love the guys attitude . My prediction tho is that D'antoni will not mess with whats working, hes gonna keep running the offense through kobe, but he may ask them to go a little faster now, but even now we cant compete with the speed of other teams, so its a big mess. It will be interesting tho lets see what happens.
Yeah don't forget what Kobe said about the system when they weren't winning. He said this is not working out at all, guys need to be in their right position and post up more. If he didn't say that who knows what this teams record would be. I give Mike D some credit on some things, but im glad he listen to Kobe when he said that lol. I will be glad when Howard gets back, but he shouldn't rush. Game in Boston should be good.
Showtime

San Gabriel, CA

#60360 Feb 7, 2013
_Jusayin_ wrote:
<quoted text>
Haha! You never know with D'Antoni!
Tru Kobe now and MWP don't fit in a fast paced run around like RIP and Ray but we've seen MWP be allowed to hover around the 3pt line and basically be a kick out shooter and it's worked in MD's system.
Kobe can now be our "big man" posting up. If Dwight stays out(for his own good)Kobe will have nobody to differ to down low. He'll be the man on the blocks as many times as he wants and we know he can drive and make the D collapse then kick.
If we can get our last 1 or 2 no name bigs to play some decent D our offense should put up points in bunches while letting the ball do most of the work which keeps our oldies with some gas at the end of games.
Yeah it will be interesting we really dont know what will happen now, you saw clark playing a little center the other night, maybe clark adopts the old amare role, and MWP goes to PF, kobe to sF, I mean the lakers did a brilliant job against the nets, but I will say the nets did miss a lot of shots, but the lakers played hard, and went for the rebounds and moved their feet on defends, I mean they do that they can climb back to 500 without howard and gasol.
Showtime

San Gabriel, CA

#60361 Feb 7, 2013
Black Mamba wrote:
<quoted text> Yeah don't forget what Kobe said about the system when they weren't winning. He said this is not working out at all, guys need to be in their right position and post up more. If he didn't say that who knows what this teams record would be. I give Mike D some credit on some things, but im glad he listen to Kobe when he said that lol. I will be glad when Howard gets back, but he shouldn't rush. Game in Boston should be good.
Its basically a slowed down D'antoni system, you still have great ball movement, but its not nearly as fast as D'antoni would love it to be, I just wish D'antoni would have realized this much earlier, I just think hes scared of telling kobe what to do, its like coaching Jordan, I dont think any other coach other than phil could coach JOrdan or kobe and tell them what to do.

“Timshel”

Since: Jan 12

Tulsa, OK

#60362 Feb 7, 2013
rrenault wrote:
<quoted text>
I thought Howard problem was shoulder not back.
Well, good for D'antoni cause now he can make a case why the Lakers should trade Pau and don't resign Howard at the end of the season.
I'll love to see him selling this to the front office and how many titles he will win for them, like he did for Phoenix and N.Y...oh wait!
Boston is cripple too Lakers may have shot at this.
In an interview with Stephen A. Smith a couple days ago Dwight was saying while sitting there in the interview that he had pain in his legs and they were going numb due to his disc being inflamed and touching on his nerves. He said his back was around 70% healthy in his estimation. I know first hand how that is as I suffer through 5 ruptured discs 3 in my lower and 2 in my mid. It's no joke. He could be flirting with being paralyzed or undergoing major invasive surgery if he's not careful.

Right now with Jim Buss in charge who knows if MD will have to sell him on anything. I think Jim sees it all different than we do.

“Timshel”

Since: Jan 12

Tulsa, OK

#60363 Feb 7, 2013
Showtime wrote:
<quoted text> Yeah it will be interesting we really dont know what will happen now, you saw clark playing a little center the other night, maybe clark adopts the old amare role, and MWP goes to PF, kobe to sF, I mean the lakers did a brilliant job against the nets, but I will say the nets did miss a lot of shots, but the lakers played hard, and went for the rebounds and moved their feet on defends, I mean they do that they can climb back to 500 without howard and gasol.
I think the way you just put it gives us the best chance going forward Show. If you put Kobe now on that Phoenix team then and keep Nash at his age now etc. you've arguably got a contending team. Granted we don't have a lightning fast Barbosa and the Matrix but it's not too far off. We just need our bench to step up like they did in Phoenix back then.

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