Did Referees Screw OKC Thunder out of...

Did Referees Screw OKC Thunder out of Crucial NBA Finals Game 2 vs. Miami Heat?

There are 61 comments on the BleacherReport story from Jun 15, 2012, titled Did Referees Screw OKC Thunder out of Crucial NBA Finals Game 2 vs. Miami Heat?. In it, BleacherReport reports that:

The Oklahoma City Thunder were about to do it again. They were about to climb all the way back from a 13-point fourth-quarter deficit against the Miami Heat in Game 2 of the 2012 NBA Finals .

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Ginobili

San Francisco, CA

#43 Jun 30, 2012
Many sports writers and commentators are jumping on my bandwagon saying that LJ is the best ever/
He won the NBA title with a DW only 50% and Bosh at best 65% wheras MJ won all of his with the help of refs and stacked teams. The Heat was a one man wreaking crew of LJ. Magic, MJ,Bird and Duncan were all stacked teams. Say you first heard it from me here, the basketball expert who actually played real basketball and coach. If u gents have any more questions just ask.

“Justice always prevails”

Since: Jan 12

vacaville

#44 Jun 30, 2012
Ginobili wrote:
Many sports writers and commentators are jumping on my bandwagon saying that LJ is the best ever/
He won the NBA title with a DW only 50% and Bosh at best 65% wheras MJ won all of his with the help of refs and stacked teams. The Heat was a one man wreaking crew of LJ. Magic, MJ,Bird and Duncan were all stacked teams. Say you first heard it from me here, the basketball expert who actually played real basketball and coach. If u gents have any more questions just ask.
If what you say is true, he would have been able to win in Cleveland

“Timshel”

Since: Jan 12

Tulsa, OK

#45 Jun 30, 2012
Ginobili wrote:
Yes I did played in the NBA for five years and prior to that overseas for several years. I am coaching college ball now.
LMAO. Again!
Sam wrote:
<quoted text> No way, you were in the NBA? Sad you had to retire as the towel boy.
I don't like you Sam, but damn I like what you just said.
Ginobili wrote:
Many sports writers and commentators are jumping on my bandwagon saying that LJ is the best ever/
Says the schizophrenic.
Ginobili wrote:
He won the NBA title with a DW only 50% and Bosh at best 65% wheras MJ won all of his with the help of refs and stacked teams. The Heat was a one man wreaking crew of LJ. Magic, MJ,Bird and Duncan were all stacked teams. Say you first heard it from me here, the basketball expert who actually played real basketball and coach. If u gents have any more questions just ask.
I can't say you ever HAD IT to have LOST IT but it's clear you're GONE. You have no knowledge of bball and it's intricacies and the proof is in the fact you believe 1 man can single-handedly carry an entire franchise and win an NBA title which has NEVER been done and will NEVER be done because it is impossible.

I don't know if you had a "thing" for LBJ while cleaning out his locker or washing his undergarments but you need to take off the rose colored glasses son. LBJ deserves and earned this ring but he's got a long way to go before he can be in the same conversation as the greatest player to ever play the game. Stacked teams LMFAO! Never in the NBA's history have we seen 3 legitimate superstars on the same team but everyone elses team was stacked?!

Like I've said before, I feel sorry for the players you're "coaching" as you're not even qualified to coach my 9 year old.
Ginobili

San Francisco, CA

#46 Jul 1, 2012
He got a DW who was 50% and a Bosh 65% and still won. MJ got stacked teams--Horace Grant, Scottie Pippen, B.J. Armstropng, Ron Harper, Dennis Rodman, Steve Kerr, Charles Oakley, and Great Coach Phil Jackson et al. The year they played w/o MJ they , the Bulls were still above .600 . In Cleveland w/o Lebron the cumlative avg of win pct is lower than .350. So u tell me who is more important to the team.

“Justice always prevails”

Since: Jan 12

vacaville

#47 Jul 1, 2012
Ginobili wrote:
He got a DW who was 50% and a Bosh 65% and still won. MJ got stacked teams--Horace Grant, Scottie Pippen, B.J. Armstropng, Ron Harper, Dennis Rodman, Steve Kerr, Charles Oakley, and Great Coach Phil Jackson et al. The year they played w/o MJ they , the Bulls were still above .600 . In Cleveland w/o Lebron the cumlative avg of win pct is lower than .350. So u tell me who is more important to the team.
All I was trying to say is if LBJ was able to win with an injured team this year , why couldn't he win with the cavs when they had the best record in the nba?
Tony

San Francisco, CA

#48 Jul 1, 2012
I don't like LBJ for what he did to Cleveland and his arrogance but the man has skills and can flat out play. By the time he finishes up with his NBA career he will be noted as the greatest with most people except the Kobe diehards and the MJ diehards. What hwe did to Boston, Indiana and the Thunder was what we called masterful. We still need to see how he plays in future playoffs to surpass Kobe and MJ, and how his regular and career records stack up to the two. I believe both MJ and Kobe still have the numbers on LBJ but if LBJ stays healthy and play for ten more years he may surpassed their numbers.

“Timshel”

Since: Jan 12

Tulsa, OK

#49 Jul 1, 2012
Ginobili wrote:
He got a DW who was 50% and a Bosh 65% and still won. MJ got stacked teams--Horace Grant, Scottie Pippen, B.J. Armstropng, Ron Harper, Dennis Rodman, Steve Kerr, Charles Oakley, and Great Coach Phil Jackson et al. The year they played w/o MJ they , the Bulls were still above .600 . In Cleveland w/o Lebron the cumlative avg of win pct is lower than .350. So u tell me who is more important to the team.
Sorry, DWade being the superstar he is at "50%" is still better than 90% of the league and Bosh came back and was as close to healthy as he could have been.

Christ, thinking the Bulls were stacked is probably the most idiotic thing I've read on these forums. Once again, put your learnin hat on because it's schoolin time "college coach"(LMAO).

- Hot-Rod Ron Harper was on the tail end of his career and benefited massively from playing with MJ and Pippen because he wasn't required to do much. He wouldn't have been a starting 5'er on another playoff team.
- Ho Grant, a windex man. Top 100 player? Nope. He did do a great job but far from being mentioned in a "stacked team".
- Oakley. Really? You idiot he was with the Bulls for like a day! More than that but he got traded for Cartwright. He didn't become "the Enforcer" until he was with the Knicks!He won NOTHING at Chicago.
- Rodman at that point was thought to be a cancer to all other teams in the NBA and the Bulls were basically his last stop then. He was a defensive juggernaut but no other team wanted his baggage and he was only with the Bulls because of MJ.
- Pippen? Please! He's a great player but he's nowhere near Dwade. We all see what Pippen wasn't after the Bulls. He was definitely Robin to MJ's Batman.
- The rest being BJ and Kerr? LOL their careers were MADE BY MJ! What happened to BJ after he got traded by the Bulls? They're still looking for him! Kerr got lucky to land at SA in their prime and played a similar role.

You really have no clue. If anybody came close to being a 1-man-show and making and then carrying an entire franchise year after year without a plethora of big name talent(more like no-names that became somebody's due to MJ) it WAS MJ.
Tony wrote:
I don't like LBJ for what he did to Cleveland and his arrogance but the man has skills and can flat out play. By the time he finishes up with his NBA career he will be noted as the greatest with most people except the Kobe diehards and the MJ diehards. What hwe did to Boston, Indiana and the Thunder was what we called masterful. We still need to see how he plays in future playoffs to surpass Kobe and MJ, and how his regular and career records stack up to the two. I believe both MJ and Kobe still have the numbers on LBJ but if LBJ stays healthy and play for ten more years he may surpassed their numbers.
Whatever "Ginobili". You can't lie and get away with it because your smarts let you down, what makes you think you can pose as somebody else and get away with it? Joke...
pert

Toronto, Canada

#50 Jul 1, 2012
_Jusayin_ wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, DWade being the superstar he is at "50%" is still better than 90% of the league and Bosh came back and was as close to healthy as he could have been.
Christ, thinking the Bulls were stacked is probably the most idiotic thing I've read on these forums. Once again, put your learnin hat on because it's schoolin time "college coach"(LMAO).
- Hot-Rod Ron Harper was on the tail end of his career and benefited massively from playing with MJ and Pippen because he wasn't required to do much. He wouldn't have been a starting 5'er on another playoff team.
- Ho Grant, a windex man. Top 100 player? Nope. He did do a great job but far from being mentioned in a "stacked team".
- Oakley. Really? You idiot he was with the Bulls for like a day! More than that but he got traded for Cartwright. He didn't become "the Enforcer" until he was with the Knicks!He won NOTHING at Chicago.
- Rodman at that point was thought to be a cancer to all other teams in the NBA and the Bulls were basically his last stop then. He was a defensive juggernaut but no other team wanted his baggage and he was only with the Bulls because of MJ.
- Pippen? Please! He's a great player but he's nowhere near Dwade. We all see what Pippen wasn't after the Bulls. He was definitely Robin to MJ's Batman.
- The rest being BJ and Kerr? LOL their careers were MADE BY MJ! What happened to BJ after he got traded by the Bulls? They're still looking for him! Kerr got lucky to land at SA in their prime and played a similar role.
You really have no clue. If anybody came close to being a 1-man-show and making and then carrying an entire franchise year after year without a plethora of big name talent(more like no-names that became somebody's due to MJ) it WAS MJ.
<quoted text>
Whatever "Ginobili". You can't lie and get away with it because your smarts let you down, what makes you think you can pose as somebody else and get away with it? Joke...
Let's not forget Paxon and Kukoc. No matter how you slice it they helped a lot. Btw , the league was at is weakest during that time. Rewind and see how hard it was for Mj to carry his team in the 80s. By the mid 90's basket ball was soft and many of the big names disappeared.not to take anything away form Mj it was a lot easier than today's standards. You cannot make nay comparison with mj and today.
Sam

Toronto, Canada

#51 Jul 1, 2012
_Jusayin_ wrote:
<quoted text>
LMAO. Again!
<quoted text>
I don't like you Sam, but damn I like what you just said.
<quoted text>
Says the schizophrenic.
<quoted text>
I can't say you ever HAD IT to have LOST IT but it's clear you're GONE. You have no knowledge of bball and it's intricacies and the proof is in the fact you believe 1 man can single-handedly carry an entire franchise and win an NBA title which has NEVER been done and will NEVER be done because it is impossible.
I don't know if you had a "thing" for LBJ while cleaning out his locker or washing his undergarments but you need to take off the rose colored glasses son. LBJ deserves and earned this ring but he's got a long way to go before he can be in the same conversation as the greatest player to ever play the game. Stacked teams LMFAO! Never in the NBA's history have we seen 3 legitimate superstars on the same team but everyone elses team was stacked?!
Like I've said before, I feel sorry for the players you're "coaching" as you're not even qualified to coach my 9 year old.
He's been going on about his tenure in the nba for a while now. Totally bogus. He is totally clueless to anything ball related.

“Timshel”

Since: Jan 12

Tulsa, OK

#52 Jul 1, 2012
pert wrote:
<quoted text>Let's not forget Paxon and Kukoc. No matter how you slice it they helped a lot. Btw , the league was at is weakest during that time. Rewind and see how hard it was for Mj to carry his team in the 80s. By the mid 90's basket ball was soft and many of the big names disappeared.not to take anything away form Mj it was a lot easier than today's standards. You cannot make nay comparison with mj and today.
Is that you Sam? ;)

Anyway, you're right. The Bulls were an ACTUAL team playing collectively for each other and a title and that's why they were such a special group that if the original Fat Bastard Jerry Krause hadn't tried to be bigger than the team himself, the Bulls may have won titles 8,9 and 10.

You couldn't just key in on MJ because they had no-names coming in off the bench who'd knock down clutch shots repeatedly. They had great chemistry and more importantly, they all knew their role and put the team first. Not themselves.

But you're right. The Bird/Magic/Badboy's era was done and it was just MJ and the Bulls BUT, I do believe as competitive as MJ is/was his game and talent and drive THEN would transcend time and he'd still be unstoppable. The man knew what YOU were going to do to him before you did. He was a master manipulator on the court and because of that he's STILL unrivaled to this day.

“Timshel”

Since: Jan 12

Tulsa, OK

#53 Jul 1, 2012
Sam wrote:
<quoted text> He's been going on about his tenure in the nba for a while now. Totally bogus. He is totally clueless to anything ball related.
He might have actually pulled off the lie if he could even remotely converse about bball. Oh well...

See that "Ginobili"? You're not fooling anyone. Cut the sh*t and talk ball if you'd like and more importantly listen bcause I guarantee you'll learn something. You don't have to lie to fit in. Didn't your mama teach you that? If she didn't, SAY YOU HEARD IT FROM ME FIRST. 8)
Ginobili

San Francisco, CA

#54 Jul 1, 2012
If the Heat players from this year r healthy and they upgrade the team a bit they are favored again. LBJ is still improving and Wade hopefully 100% and Bosh also. The Lakers, too bad Kobe is still there, second round at the most and out. OKC needs a real pg and some improvement on Ibaka's D and O. Say you heard it from me here, the basketball guru.

“Timshel”

Since: Jan 12

Tulsa, OK

#55 Jul 1, 2012
Ginobili wrote:
If the Heat players from this year r healthy and they upgrade the team a bit they are favored again.
I got one! I can predict too! When it rains it will get wet outside!

Way to go out on a limb with that prediction "guru".
sam

Toronto, Canada

#56 Jul 2, 2012
_Jusayin_ wrote:
<quoted text>
Is that you Sam? ;)
Anyway, you're right. The Bulls were an ACTUAL team playing collectively for each other and a title and that's why they were such a special group that if the original Fat Bastard Jerry Krause hadn't tried to be bigger than the team himself, the Bulls may have won titles 8,9 and 10.
You couldn't just key in on MJ because they had no-names coming in off the bench who'd knock down clutch shots repeatedly. They had great chemistry and more importantly, they all knew their role and put the team first. Not themselves.
But you're right. The Bird/Magic/Badboy's era was done and it was just MJ and the Bulls BUT, I do believe as competitive as MJ is/was his game and talent and drive THEN would transcend time and he'd still be unstoppable. The man knew what YOU were going to do to him before you did. He was a master manipulator on the court and because of that he's STILL unrivaled to this day.
Yea Sorry dude it was me but my bro uses my computer and comes on Topix, I simply forgot to change the Moniker. Yes Totally agree, no one in the game had the mindset of Jordan. Powerful mind.
Ginobili

San Francisco, CA

#57 Jul 3, 2012
MJ is not even close to LBJ, say you first heard from me.
sam

Waterloo, Canada

#58 Jul 3, 2012
Ginobili wrote:
MJ is not even close to LBJ, say you first heard from me.
spoken from a former nbaer right?
Ginobili

San Francisco, CA

#59 Jul 3, 2012
I played against MJ when he was with the Bobcats he was not special at all, many shooting guards were better than him. Too bad in his last two years he was not given the "MJ special TX". LBJ is the best that ever played, watch more experts had been saying this lately on TV because I was the first one to have the guts to say it. I said nearly a year ago after keeping my mouth shut for solong.

“Justice always prevails”

Since: Jan 12

vacaville

#60 Jul 3, 2012
Ginobili wrote:
I played against MJ when he was with the Bobcats he was not special at all, many shooting guards were better than him. Too bad in his last two years he was not given the "MJ special TX". LBJ is the best that ever played, watch more experts had been saying this lately on TV because I was the first one to have the guts to say it. I said nearly a year ago after keeping my mouth shut for solong.
Ur full of shit mj played for the wizards not the bobcats.
Ginobili

San Francisco, CA

#61 Jul 4, 2012
No MJ played for the Lakers alongside Kobe and Shaq. All kidding aside MJ does not have what LBJ have. LBJ is 6'9" 275 lbs, can run the 40 yd dash in under 4.5s in fact in high school he played wide reciever, his vertical jump is 44" and the man can bench press over three and fifty pounds. MJ can even come close. LBJ has the highest PER for career playoff games played and his PER is just slightly lower than MJ for regular season games, but LBJ does not need any help from the refs like Jordan.
sam

Toronto, Canada

#62 Jul 4, 2012
The_Solution wrote:
<quoted text>
Ur full of shit mj played for the wizards not the bobcats.
he meant when MJ laced them up during practice.

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