Cleveland casino will occupy old Higbee department store | The Columbus Dispatch

Backers say Cleveland's casino will open next year in a former department store to be renovated at a cost of $350 million. Full Story
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Columbus, OH

#1 Feb 3, 2011
just what cleveland needs- more trouble
dcbatty

Columbus, OH

#2 Feb 3, 2011
shouldn't a change in location (even a temporary one) require a constitutional amendment approved by a state-wide election?????
Current PC

Columbus, OH

#3 Feb 3, 2011
Maybe Gilbert should put that money into helping the Cavs instead of a casino. The man has more money than sense.
Holly

Columbus, OH

#4 Feb 3, 2011
What a shame for the Higbee building and A Christmas Story.
Casino Pit Boss

Hilliard, OH

#5 Feb 3, 2011
And Mike Coleman did not think that City Center would have been a good place for a casino. They new before the tore it down that it could have been a site for a casino.
I hope Franklin Township keeps all the taxes to themselves.
That is what Coleman gets for being greedy and power hungry.
Bob

Grove City, OH

#6 Feb 3, 2011
be careful a robber will shoot your eye out kid.
ColumbusUndergro under

King Of Prussia, PA

#7 Feb 3, 2011
WOW. Cleveland City leaders really went all out to make the Casino there a First class facility. UNLIKE Columbus City leaders who treated it like a Fat Red Headed Step child and kicked it to the curb!! Or as far out of town as possible. It was a hugh mistake not letting it go into the City Center site. Columbus owns the site, they could have sold it for millions of dollars, instead of spending millions to clear it out and build, then maintain a park. Way to go Coleman!!
John Columbus

AOL

#8 Feb 3, 2011
This is why Cleveland and Cincinati has a more exciting downtown, they chose to expept a downtown casino. Columbus is run by a bunch of old men who want to make downtown a retirement village. They should have pushed for a casino in the city center. What do they have there now. 35 million wasted on a park for the homeless with a merry go round and a detiorating Hyatt Hotel that no one wants.

Since: Jan 10

Cincinnati, OH

#9 Feb 3, 2011
dcbatty wrote:
shouldn't a change in location (even a temporary one) require a constitutional amendment approved by a state-wide election?????
What change in location? It is still within the city limits of Cleveland which is what was the original vote specified. We the people voted for casinos to be established in Cleveland, Toledo, Cincinnati, and Columbus, not for specific addresses within those cities. Columbus is the only city that decided not to follow the will of the people and put their casino outside of city limits.
Mel

Columbus, OH

#10 Feb 3, 2011
Casino Pit Boss wrote:
And Mike Coleman did not think that City Center would have been a good place for a casino. They new before the tore it down that it could have been a site for a casino.
I hope Franklin Township keeps all the taxes to themselves.
That is what Coleman gets for being greedy and power hungry.
We can have a junky park instead of a junky casino. At least with the junky park it no one is traveling there to cause more trouble than already is currently there.

Show me a place - besides the intense opulence of Las Vegas - where a casino has done more good than harm. I couldn't be happier that the few profitable places in downtown won't be ruined by the eyesore of blight and poverty the casino will ultimately be patroned by. As far as I'm concerned, the further on the west side of town the better.
Dontel

Columbus, OH

#11 Feb 3, 2011
Who are you kidding when you say tax money? It's the same old game, we're supposed to be getting the tax money of the casinos, otherwise why let them in, right?

Well, the casinos are pushing for tax abatements, and would have wanted millions in tax abatements more than what they're already asking for if they had to be the ones to raze and rebuild the city center complex. Do you honestly think they would have done it for free? NO! They didn't want the building which is why an Arena District spot was picked by Penn in advance. You guys give Coleman way too much credit, he doesn't have that kind of power.
Dontel

Columbus, OH

#12 Feb 3, 2011
Ohio Veteran wrote:
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Columbus is the only city that decided not to follow the will of the people and put their casino outside of city limits.
It's funny that you say that, considering Columbus overwhelmingly voted against the casino.

Since: Dec 10

Columbus, OH

#13 Feb 3, 2011
As someone who lives quite near downtown, let me say I welcome a park. I go to parks all the time. They are pleasant.
Most casinos outside of Vegas are pretty cheesy and/or trashy. So, I think Coleman did the right thing. Gilbert is an ass for helping get this nonsense in our STATE CONSTITUTION, and his team sucks.
Theres a fly in my soup

United States

#14 Feb 3, 2011
Dontel wrote:
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It's funny that you say that, considering Columbus overwhelmingly voted against the casino.
Funny how you speak for all the people in Columbus. Even if Columubs citizens votes were 100% against it wouldn't make any difference in the outcome. The casino is going to be built outside the Columbus city limits as insisted on by the city officials.
oh yeah

Columbus, OH

#15 Feb 3, 2011
Oh WELL THE MONEY FLOWS TO THE WEALTHYEST AS ALWAYS!! SO WHATEVER!!
Dontel

Columbus, OH

#16 Feb 3, 2011
Theres a fly in my soup wrote:
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Funny how you speak for all the people in Columbus. Even if Columubs citizens votes were 100% against it wouldn't make any difference in the outcome. The casino is going to be built outside the Columbus city limits as insisted on by the city officials.
I don't speak for all of the people in Columbus, and I never claimed to. I am only speaking to the results of the election, in which Columbus overwhelmingly voted against the casino measure. I am glad that the city respected the wishes of the majority of its voting constituents by moving it away from the downtown area and out of the city.
yeesh

Columbus, OH

#17 Feb 3, 2011
Mel wrote:
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We can have a junky park instead of a junky casino. At least with the junky park it no one is traveling there to cause more trouble than already is currently there.
Show me a place - besides the intense opulence of Las Vegas - where a casino has done more good than harm. I couldn't be happier that the few profitable places in downtown won't be ruined by the eyesore of blight and poverty the casino will ultimately be patroned by. As far as I'm concerned, the further on the west side of town the better.
lawrenceburg indiana, per city leaders, the casino's have helped a lot wuth tax $$ and crime is not running crazy like you idiots think. look it up there is your place. I can name more
Frank Burns

Columbus, OH

#18 Feb 3, 2011
oh yeah wrote:
Oh WELL THE MONEY FLOWS TO THE WEALTHYEST AS ALWAYS!! SO WHATEVER!!
Maybe if you were working instead of commenting on Topix, you'd have a little wealth yourself.
Ehh

Columbus, OH

#19 Feb 3, 2011
Casino Pit Boss wrote:
And Mike Coleman did not think that City Center would have been a good place for a casino. They new before the tore it down that it could have been a site for a casino.
I hope Franklin Township keeps all the taxes to themselves.
That is what Coleman gets for being greedy and power hungry.
You assume Penn National wanted the same sort of property as Gilbert's group; show me one instance where Penn ever expressed even the slightest interest in City Center itself or the site. It is smaller than both the Arena District site and the Delphi site, as all along Penn wanted the option of building a hotel and other infrastructure on the grounds.

We may never know if Penn National would have considered City Center had it been offered, but I for one do not recall a single instance where they stated publicly it could have been an option. If you have info otherwise, please show when and where they said as much.
Judy

Washington, DC

#20 Feb 3, 2011
The Higbee company is a great location, it is connected to Tower City, Renassiance Hotel and Gund Area. Rail and bus service is readily available. There is also inside and outside parking, movie theater, shoppes, and restaurants. This will certainly revitalize the downtown area, which is undergoing a renewed interest. GOOD GOING CLEVELAND FOR DOING SOMETHING RIGHT!

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