NBA player Jason Collins comes out

There are 20 comments on the The Washington Post story from Apr 29, 2013, titled NBA player Jason Collins comes out. In it, The Washington Post reports that:

With those words, written in the upcoming issue of Sports Illustrated , Jason Collins, who played for the Boston Celtics and Washington Wizards this season, has taken the step that may embolden others to follow.

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“You Get My Truth Here!”

Since: May 09

Nonya!

#69 May 1, 2013
Muddy wrote:
<quoted text>What about divorced people? What about unmarried "baby mommas"? There are more of a drain on society than gays.
What????
Muddy

Wise, VA

#71 May 1, 2013
Get That Fool wrote:
<quoted text>
What????
Unmarried "Baby mommas" are a waste of space...their kids should be taken away and they should be forcibly sterilized!

“Timshel”

Since: Jan 12

Tulsa, OK

#72 May 1, 2013
Mrsize13feet wrote:
My reaction to his "coming out" is one word, AND???
So what?, big deal. It's a bunch of horseshyt anyway, and it's common, I call it Ricky Martin syndrome. You know, you make your millions for years, and THEN, when financially set, with nothing to lose, suddenly make your announcement. I can guarantee if he had done that during year one as a player, he would have had a hard time playing in year two. And why in the hell does the President of the United States and his wife need to call you? Did he call the soldier who lost 3 limbs in the war to encourage him that life is STILL worth living? Did Michelle tweet that she has HIS back? Although now he only has one arm , a broken heart and no sense of hope? Come on.
Number one, it means nothing in the scheme of things, and it shouldn't. A person's sexuality is insignificant, you love who you choose to love, what's more important is HOW you love, and your level of compassion, irregardless of who it is.
Number two, this thing about being Black and Gay? Huh?, it's obvious he's Black, so why in the hell do you need to reiterate it? That's just stupid, has nothing to do with being gay. Again, it's hollywood stupidity. So a female is supposed to say, "I'm a woman, and I'm gay?" What the hell? Wouldn't that make you scratch your head? Jesus..
Number three, why is this headline news? Was it headline news when super-dyke Brittney Griner announced she's gay? Why of course not, why? because most people believe that female athletes, especially basketball players are lesbians, right? Right. Hmm, I don't recall her announcement getting that much press, do you? I bet you didn't.
This again adds to why I think his announcement is so insignificant. If someone is gay, do your thing baby, live your life, love who you want to love, it doesn't have to be a major announcement, just harmony and the right to live your life just like anyone else has the right.
I'm not impressed by this hollywood style news, I never have been, I can give a rat's ass about who you're sleeping with and I mean that honestly because I respect that first and foremost in a person..
I will say this, I'd be more impressed if making a statement about how great a humanitarian you are, and what you do , and have done, to help others, because that shows me your character. Announcing your gay doesn't mean shyt. But for most idiots out there, who live for this juicy gossip so they can open their mouths and talk about it, it's right up their alley. I'm so glad I'm way different than most people. Give me some REAL news please.
What do you think folks?
I agree with some of your points when it pertains to the Pres and first Lady having J. Collin's back who's a millionaire and healthy and fit as an ox when there are soldiers who aren't wealthy who gave their lives for our country who don't get the recognition they all deserve even though we shouldn't be fighting in greed wars in the first place but that's a different story.

I also agree that Collins came out when it was safest for HIM, after he's made the bulk of his money. It obviously didn't weigh heavy enough on him to come out early on in his career but the impact is really just the same and it shouldn't diminish what he's gone through and now done.

The bigger picture is this helps bring forth equality and it inspires those who are still in the closet to have the courage to come out and hopefully be treated with the sensitivity they deserve. This should also help to bring forth change in a society that still hates G&L's or anything different than what they believe.

Overall, whether or not Collins should have done this sooner is neither here nor there; he's done it and hopefully it will have the positive impact we're all hoping for.

“Timshel”

Since: Jan 12

Tulsa, OK

#73 May 1, 2013
Brittle Fingers wrote:
<quoted text>
I actually do believe they are born that way. But I also believe that it is a mental disorder - along the lines of ADD, OCD, etc. Nothing that impedes a person's ability to function in everyday life, but an anomoly in terms of standard human behavior.
You asked why it was "wrong". I'm not saying it's "wrong" per se, but just that it's a clear deviation.
What I don't understand is why everyone gets all up in arms when it is suggested that homosexuality is a mental disorder. It is not meant as offensive in any way. It just is what it is.
Let's cut the proverbial crap here, if it wasn't for religion saying it's "wrong" and it's a sin to be gay, this would have never been an issue ever as men were lying with men from year 1.

This was merely a group of people a thousand or two years ago that detested same sex relations so much that they did their utmost to rid the world of what they considered vile when ironically them doing what they did to rid the world of G&L's is vile and inhumane and still is.
Ginobili

San Francisco, CA

#74 May 1, 2013
In ur heart you know that being gay is wrong. Why even push the issue?

“Timshel”

Since: Jan 12

Tulsa, OK

#75 May 1, 2013
Ginobili wrote:
In ur heart you know that being gay is wrong. Why even push the issue?
In my heart I know you're a troll bored with your life just trying to get a response by saying inflammatory things you really don't mean.
Lance

Mountain View, CA

#77 May 1, 2013
Just another prancing fairy queen who has to tell everybody (with a limp-wristed wave) "I am soooo..ooo GHEY!!!"

I din't care what sports he played or whatever profession he had. Just another pathetic queer-bob.

"We're here, were queer, get used to it!" they scream. Oh, really? I don't give a rat's ass if you "shag" sheep or play "drop the soap". I am tired of hearing about it.

For laughs and giggles sometime, look up the diseases and medical problems of gay dudes. It is a long and disgusting list.
Lance

Mountain View, CA

#78 May 1, 2013
The only reason that homosexuality was de-listed as a mental disorder is that there was no pill that instantly cured it. It was embarrassing to the "Big Pharma" drug companies to admit they could not cure homosexuality with a pill.

The really sad fact is that homosexuality was never an issue with anybody until Queen Victoria declared it an abomination.(I have not fact checked this, it may just be an urban legend).

Everybody needs a label. I was on a picnic with co-workers last summer. After several beers, one guy reverted to his swishy behavior and labeled everybody as straight or gay. I just asked how many here had a Judy Garland or Liza Minelli album. All the gay guys immediately raised their hands! I kinda resented being labeled a straight guy as I do not really like labels. A few times I have amused myself by giving gay guys a hand job. I just never told anybody about it. That kinda makes me a little bisexual. So much for labels.
Juan0842

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#79 May 1, 2013
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Legal sexual deviancy (taboo) is a part of most people, in our society; this is a major reason resulting in the flawed acceptance of homosexuality in the public view by those who don't practice homosexuality, but (Bill Clinton's Cigars) do practice other acts sexual taboos. My views sets personalities aside from the act of homosexuality as well as religion, I value both. I pass no judgments on any sexual deviancies as long as they are legal and in the space of their own privacy. I however have problems with open discussions and acts of homosexuality in public forums and in public view of our kids, as I do with bestiality, incest and many other unnatural sexual acts that our youth will act upon by mere innocence to its exposure, ask any teachers if they have not already been exposed to unnatural sexual cases in the elementary and junior high schools. To dismissed this facts from the discussion is ignorance and self-serving.
Since the sixties and the open closet offence, statistics have proven that sexual assaults on the young has increased tremendously in percentage as well as other sexual crimes, yes, most sexual offenders and predators are or have homosexuals tendencies, however you will not find any documented statistics in this regard ( 15 years of investigating sexual crimes makes me an expert ) because homosexuals are an effected group and any reference to its contribution to a crime may result in legal liabilities to a law-enforcement department and the prosecution of the crime, Yes don't ask, don't tell, don't document is part of police departments none specific policies which all understand well and fear.
Juan0842

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#80 May 1, 2013
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Documented fact, several impartial private investigators have gain access to our prison facilities and their intended resources and written books and papers acknowledging that most serial killers are admitted homosexuals, as are sexual offenders and predators, the FBI in writing their protocol for criminal profiling came up with the same conclusion. Another ill effect to our society which we haven't and are afraid to view with insight and foresight.
Fruit for thought, most porn sites are rich in videos of lesbian acts, therefore you will have to acknowledge that it would not be far fetch to believe that a great number of those girls would have had to be exposed to illegal lesbian acts prior to legal age. Now if one were to research for prosecution of female on female sexual crimes you would be surprise that its almost none existent in our court rooms, mainly due to the lack of physical evidence in most of these cases and societies attitude which wishes to ignore circumstantial evidence much more than in any other criminal offences. In other words emotional damages to our underage female in our society is being over looked, why? I believe that the homosexual propaganda were they question what's the harm of two people of the same sexual gender loving each other has been very effective, but choose to ignore the effects to our kids, and attack those who have been effected by the homosexual life style with intolerance and accuse religions of hypocrisy. the facts are that all those offending priests are homosexuals and are more representative of the homosexual community than they are of their religion.
By Collins "coming out" I know it to be a self-serving act, there is no other reason. We have laws that protect him already, so why? We can conclude that he has increased his circle of potential partners and job security as an effected class for sure, and that he does not give a damn about people like me who know that he knowingly acted in a reckless manner. In my case I see it as a recruitment of our children,
Juan0842

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#81 May 1, 2013
emboldening sexual predators, now they can tell their next child victim, look at Collins and the other players call him a hero.
Note: there is no proving that people are born to be homosexuals because of screwed up gens, all those studies have been debunked. However tangible studies of separated twins when infants around the world, have discovered many twins were one is a homosexual and the other is not sharing the same gens. This can only result as environmental exposure as the premises to homosexuality. Why it is that many other countries have less homosexuals per capital than the U.S., Our black communities are not as tolerant of homosexuality as whites are and as a result they significantly have much less sexual crimes against their children, in the Middle East its almost none existent, intolerance yes, but if you analyze it there almost no child sexual abuse, parents are not full time body guards as they are here in the U.S. and the kids are not subject home imprisonment as they are here for fear. No I don't feel that Collins is a hero.
Ginobili

San Francisco, CA

#82 May 1, 2013
I am that most of the posters on this board is with me, yes being gay is not normal and it is wrong. Jesus Christ says that it is an abomination.
mrsize13feet

Brooklyn, NY

#83 May 2, 2013
_Jusayin_ wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's cut the proverbial crap here, if it wasn't for religion saying it's "wrong" and it's a sin to be gay, this would have never been an issue ever as men were lying with men from year 1.
This was merely a group of people a thousand or two years ago that detested same sex relations so much that they did their utmost to rid the world of what they considered vile when ironically them doing what they did to rid the world of G&L's is vile and inhumane and still is.
Yes all of what you said is true. I guess my point is that why should we be impressed by the hollywood people when the average Joe does the same thing, or if he did no one would care, and no one should care so it brings me back to my original point. It's insignificant. I hear stories like this and I say, who gives a shyt? I sure don't. None of it is newsworthy, and again, it's very one sided. Hypocrisy in it's purest form lol..And this statement, I'm Black and I'm Gay? What? you're Black? when were you going to announce THAT? Or did you wait to deliver a double whammy to the world? It's bullshyt.

“Stop the Brain Rot”

Since: Jan 12

Take a Looonng Vacation

#84 May 2, 2013
bill wrote:
GOD still loves pal, he hates sin in which you live, CHRIST died to redem you of that lifestyle you were not born that way.
There's no such thing as "sin." Like "God," "Heaven," and "Hell," it's all in your and other peoples' imaginations.

“Stop the Brain Rot”

Since: Jan 12

Take a Looonng Vacation

#85 May 2, 2013
Ginobili wrote:
I am that most of the posters on this board is with me, yes being gay is not normal and it is wrong. Jesus Christ says that it is an abomination.
Please provide Jesus' own specific words indicating that homosexuality is an "abomination."

“Stop the Brain Rot”

Since: Jan 12

Take a Looonng Vacation

#86 May 2, 2013
Juan0842 wrote:
emboldening sexual predators, now they can tell their next child victim, look at Collins and the other players call him a hero.
...EDITED....
Homosexuals are not "sexual predators" to any greater degree than are heterosexuals. Please knock off the bigoted lies and distortions.
Juan0842

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#87 May 2, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
<quoted text>
Homosexuals are not "sexual predators" to any greater degree than are heterosexuals. Please knock off the bigoted lies and distortions.
There is no distortion on anything that I previously wrote, there are more male on young male sexual abuse cases, this are homosexual acts ("Sexual Predators"). We have many sexual battery cases of retribution by homosexual males on females a known fact not shared with the public.
Blank

Wise, VA

#88 May 2, 2013
Juan0842 wrote:
Page 1 of 2
Legal sexual deviancy (taboo) is a part of most people, in our society; this is a major reason resulting in the flawed acceptance of homosexuality in the public view by those who don't practice homosexuality, but (Bill Clinton's Cigars) do practice other acts sexual taboos. My views sets personalities aside from the act of homosexuality as well as religion, I value both. I pass no judgments on any sexual deviancies as long as they are legal and in the space of their own privacy. I however have problems with open discussions and acts of homosexuality in public forums and in public view of our kids, as I do with bestiality, incest and many other unnatural sexual acts that our youth will act upon by mere innocence to its exposure, ask any teachers if they have not already been exposed to unnatural sexual cases in the elementary and junior high schools. To dismissed this facts from the discussion is ignorance and self-serving.
Since the sixties and the open closet offence, statistics have proven that sexual assaults on the young has increased tremendously in percentage as well as other sexual crimes, yes, most sexual offenders and predators are or have homosexuals tendencies, however you will not find any documented statistics in this regard ( 15 years of investigating sexual crimes makes me an expert ) because homosexuals are an effected group and any reference to its contribution to a crime may result in legal liabilities to a law-enforcement department and the prosecution of the crime, Yes don't ask, don't tell, don't document is part of police departments none specific policies which all understand well and fear.
As long as people are of legal age, consenting, and not hurting anyone else, who the hell cares??? I mean, with war, hunger, poverty, starvation,etc. going on in world, is "who is having sex with who" really the most pressing issue? Sheeshhhh....
Blank

Wise, VA

#92 May 2, 2013
TRUTHS BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>These are your criteria or are you lying?
1. legal age
2. consent
3. not hurting anyone else.
That is your belief right?
1. legal age? Which one? 12, 15, 16, or 18? Who decides what age? Society and their social norm requirements right.
2. consent? Do you mean ability to consent or legal requirement to consent? Well, a 13 and 14 year old regularly consents to sex with other children of the same age. Legal consent, which is then again society and their social norm. In 40 states gays can not consent to marry, because they do not meet the gender requirements. So, you are asking for society to change the consent laws to allow same sex consent.
3. not hurting anyone?...so who decides what is hurt? Does the 15 year old decide or does society? What about other gays, like the ones who want therapy and gays lie and claim that the therapy is harmful? What about when a gay gives AIDS to another gay? What about the almost triple rate of violence among gays in the gay community, isn't that harm? What about the hurt that the violent gay activists enact upon gays who do not agree with their agenda and speak out?
3. not hurting anyone?....what about the gays who are having 5-6 year old children taught that it is okay to be gay and that homosexuality is a 50-50 alternative to being straight and with the 90% suicide contemplating among gays is not that harmful?
3. not hurting anyone?......what is the purpose of a basketball player telling his team mates, public and media that he is gay? It is part of pimping the gayness to children and fans. There is no basketball purpose. It is not like there is this Gay Basketball league with a pool of great athletes, like the Negro League which had superior talent.
3. not hurting anyone?.....then why has the APA lied since 1980 and claimed that gays can not change and that conversion therapy is harmful only to see a major spike in gay suicides. Why do gays have more hate and venom towards ex-gays, calling them traitors and self deniers, than even the hate they have towards Catholics??
3. not hurting anyone?.....can we write a book.
The PEOPLE invovlved decides if thy are not hurt! Damn...are you a moron or soenthing??
Muddy

Wise, VA

#94 May 3, 2013
TRUTHS BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>So, you made that comment and I am the moron? What is "soenthing, invovled and thy", genius? Moron?
If the people involved decide if they are hurt, then it would be left up to a 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 year old to decide if she/he were hurt. You really are not very bright.
If the people involved decide if they are hurt, the gays would be free without harassment and negative input to get conversion therapy.
If the people involved decide if they are hurt, the gays would decide for themselves if they wanted to come out instead of being outed.
You're out of your league here, son.
AGE OF CONSENT dumbass...we are talking about ADULTS!! Can't dumb it down much more for you American-Taliban-wannabe's (AKA "Evangelicals")

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