I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to ...

I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more...

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#1 Aug 26, 2012
Was Tony right when he went off ?
linda schmick

Richmond, VA

#2 Aug 26, 2012
He may be mad as H---, well one of his oldest & faithful follower also is madder than h---. His car was not running like it should and was beginning to run better for him. When the tv came back from a commerical, Tony was up to second and taking the lead. I couldn't imagine him in that position at that time. Then all h---broke loose. I thought Tony should have been more patience at this time, whether the 17 was not showing his best character or not, Tony is trying to win a 2nd straight championship. But throwing the helmick at 17 is stictly a "temper tantrum". Now what does Nascar do to him now? He can't afford to lose points...fines (that wouldn't hurt him). This little child's action will cost him. I was praying you were over being a child. HOWEVER, YOU STILL HAVE YOUR NUMBER ONE FAN.

Since: Feb 12

Brooklyn, NY

#3 Aug 26, 2012
NY Nascar wrote:
Was Tony right when he went off ?
The only answer for this is . Do U have young children watching NASCAR?? If so does it bother U for them to see any driver attack someone physically or dishing out verbal abuse? If it was only watched by adults I would say no problem watch at your own risk .But NASCAR is a family sport children young & old are watching.J/S
Carolyn

Erie, PA

#4 Aug 26, 2012
manic depressive 2 wrote:
<quoted text>The only answer for this is . Do U have young children watching NASCAR?? If so does it bother U for them to see any driver attack someone physically or dishing out verbal abuse? If it was only watched by adults I would say no problem watch at your own risk .But NASCAR is a family sport children young & old are watching.J/S
That didn't stop Jeff Gordon from fighting with Jeff Burton. Was his little girl not watching? What did she think of her father fighting? Her father who should be her role model didn't think his little girl was watching?

Since: Feb 12

Brooklyn, NY

#5 Aug 26, 2012
Carolyn wrote:
<quoted text>That didn't stop Jeff Gordon from fighting with Jeff Burton. Was his little girl not watching? What did she think of her father fighting? Her father who should be her role model didn't think his little girl was watching?
Excuse me !!! I stated it is up to the parent if it is OK for their children to watch. And only up to the parent if they want to monitor what they watch. FYI I let my own 2 kids watch NASCAR
. Well one the other hates sports.Its up to the parent.< Is this that hard to understand??? Maybe you have never notice but some fans act like they were raised by NUNS.
Carolyn

Erie, PA

#6 Aug 27, 2012
manic depressive 2 wrote:
<quoted text>Excuse me !!! I stated it is up to the parent if it is OK for their children to watch. And only up to the parent if they want to monitor what they watch. FYI I let my own 2 kids watch NASCAR
. Well one the other hates sports.Its up to the parent.< Is this that hard to understand??? Maybe you have never notice but some fans act like they were raised by NUNS.
The parents should be the role models for their children. Why look up to someone they see on TV once a week for a few months? Shouldn't you be the role model for your two kids? Of course, with your nasty, hateful attitude, they're better off watching those racers for a few months.

Since: Feb 12

United States

#7 Aug 27, 2012
Carolyn wrote:
<quoted text>The parents should be the role models for their children. Why look up to someone they see on TV once a week for a few months? Shouldn't you be the role model for your two kids? Of course, with your nasty, hateful attitude, they're better off watching those racers for a few months.
How do you know what type of parent I am ????? You R judging me from the poster I portray on the internet. This proves how dangerous the net is . And how serial killers lure young pray into their net . WHY.......... Because a people R SUCKERS ROTFLMAO
Carolyn

Erie, PA

#8 Aug 27, 2012
manic depressive 2 wrote:
<quoted text>How do you know what type of parent I am ????? You R judging me from the poster I portray on the internet. This proves how dangerous the net is . And how serial killers lure young pray into their net . WHY.......... Because a people R SUCKERS ROTFLMAO
So, you're not as tough and mean as you come across?

Since: Feb 12

Brooklyn, NY

#9 Aug 27, 2012
Further information: Lonely hearts killer
As an article in the New York Daily News explained in 2009, "Long before there was a craigslist or dot-com dating, there were places where men and women who were too shy or busy to meet face to face could find romance. Calling themselves "matrimonial bureaus," these organizations were known mostly as the "lonely hearts clubs," and they flourished through the middle of the 20th century."[24] It was in venues like these -- print media such as newspaper classified ads and personal or lonely hearts club ads -- that 20th century murderers such as Harry Powers, the so-called "Matrimonial Bureau Murderer,"[24] and Harvey Carignan, "the Want Ad Killer"[25] met their victims.
Electronic advertising has gradually replaced printed ads and the internet is now a venue where murderers who employ a similar modus operandi can meet their victims; in Schecter's Encyclopedia, the entry for "Ads" mentions internet dating and the use of internet ads by the so-called "Internet Cannibal" Armin Meiwes.[11] Since 2007, several accused and convicted killers have contacted victims through advertising services such as Craigslist, a popular classified advertising website. These killers are sometimes referred to in the media as "Craigslist killers";[26][27][28] the first use of the term Craigslist killings may date to October 31, 2007, when the phrase appeared in a headline in the Saint Paul Pioneer Press in Minnesota, in reference to the murder of Katherine Olson by Michael John Anderson, who was then dubbed "the Craigslist killer".[29]
Since 2007, several suspected and convicted perpetrators have met their victims or solicited murder through Craigslist. Of these, two were convicted for crimes in the three-month period encompassing February to April 2009 and a further four were accused of crimes during the 13-month span of March 2008 through April 2009.[26][27][28][30] Although, by definition, Craigslist will have been the initial contact point and a killing will have taken place in order for the suspected, accused, or convicted perpetrator to be dubbed a Craigslist killer, the actual motivations of these criminals are varied. The victims' deaths may result from a robbery or a sexual encounter that turned violent. Some of these perpetrators may not have intended to commit murder, but killed their victims during the course of a struggle or to prevent capture. Each case is different

Since: Feb 12

Brooklyn, NY

#10 Aug 27, 2012
Carolyn wrote:
<quoted text>So, you're not as tough and mean as you come across?
You will NEVER know Carolyn my dear :0):0)

Since: Feb 12

Brooklyn, NY

#11 Aug 27, 2012
Further information: internet suicide
"Internet homicide" has been described as crime that occurs when a killer succeeds in "luring a person from a chat room to an actual meeting," which "can turn deadly."[2][3][18]
In 1996, a Maryland internet entrepreneur named Sharon Lopatka arranged for her own torture and strangulation over the Internet.[19][20] The man who killed her was convicted of voluntary manslaughter. A murderer who found victims via suicide chat rooms and/or web sites was the Japanese serial killer Hiroshi Maeue.[21] One internet killer, Lisa M. Montgomery, met her victim in a rat terrier fancier's chatroom called "Ratter Chatter."[22]
In June 2003, a teenage boy in Altrincham, England, identified in the press only as "John," used protracted chat room conversations with another teen, "Mark," to entice Mark to murder him. This was not a case of consensual homicide, because Mark did not know he was being set up to kill John, but rather thought he was going to be killing for a female secret service agent. John's intended internet chat room suicide-by-homicide failed when Mark only succeeded in seriously wounding him and then called the authorities. On May 29, 2004, John pleaded guilty to inciting someone to murder him and was sentenced to three years supervision; Mark pleaded guilty to attempted murder and was sentenced to two years supervision. The boys were forbidden to contact each other.[23]

Since: Feb 12

United States

#12 Aug 27, 2012
Notable Internet homicides

This is an incomplete list, which may never be able to satisfy particular standards for completeness. You can help by expanding it with reliably sourced entries.
The following individuals have been arrested and/or convicted of crimes in which police claimed that Internet services such as chat rooms and Craigslist advertisements were used to contact victims or hire a murderer. Despite sharing a similar method of contacting victims, they apparently have varied motivations. In the list below, the victims' deaths may have been premeditated, especially if the perpetrator is a serial killer, but they may also have resulted from a robbery, insurance fraud, or a sexual encounter that turned violent.
The consensual murder of Bernd Jürgen Brandes by the so-called "Internet cannibal" Armin Meiwes; the two met at a web site called The Cannibal Cafe, where people described their fantasies of cannibalism, and where Meiwes openly advertised for a willing victim.[3][35]
Michael John Anderson was convicted of murdering Katherine Olson in Minnesota in October 2007. According to an article in the Saint Paul Pioneer Press, "The 19-year-old Savage man used craigslist to lure Katherine Ann Olson to his home for a fictitious baby-sitting job, then shot her in the back." [26][29]
In 1998, Chris Dean, a truck driver from Indiana, was sentenced to life imprisonment for the murder of 17-year-old Chris Marquis from Vermont. Marquis operated a scam in which he would pose as the 27-year-old proprietor of a fictional shop called the CB Shack, and offer to trade merchandise with people online. When people sent Marquis their goods, he would either not send anything back or would send something old or broken. Dean fell victim to this, built a pipe bomb and mailed it to Marquis, killing him and injuring his mother.[36]
David Russell, a UK McDonald's worker, impersonated Bring Me The Horizon singer Oliver Sykes to seduce a California woman he met on Facebook before slitting her throat and repeatedly stabbing her. Russell, 20, has been jailed for life after admitting to the kidnap and attempted murder of Maricar Benedicto, 19, who he met online in 2010.[37]
Robert Frederick Glass, a computer analyst from North Carolina killed Sharon Lopatka by torture and strangulation in a case of apparent consensual homicide on October 16, 1996. Lopatka used the Internet, where she also advertised pornography related to unusual sexual fetishes, to locate Glass, who was later convicted of voluntary manslaughter for the crime.[19][38]
Christian Grotheer, known as "Germany's First Internet Killer," confessed to two murders in 2009. According to an article in the Daily Telegraph, he admitted to "murdering women he met in online chat rooms."[39][40]
David Heiss, a 21 year old German office worker, became infatuated with a British girl, Joanna Witton, 20, who along with her boyfriend Matthew Pyke, 20, was an administrator of the Advance Wars series fansite, Wars Central. After his advances were rebuffed, including two visits, Heiss traveled to the UK once more and stabbed Matthew Pyke to death. He was jailed for life in May 2009. A police spokesman noted that, "While this is an extremely unusual case, one thing is clear and that is that Heiss used the internet to harass and stalk Joanna and Matthew. He eventually found out where they lived and other information about them that enabled him to carry out his plans. We should all consider the amounts of personal information we share on web systems like MSN and on internet forums."[41][42]

Since: Feb 12

United States

#13 Aug 27, 2012
Philip Markoff, known as "The Craigslist killer" in numerous news reports, was arrested and indicted in April, 2009 for the murder of Julissa Brisman and for other attacks against women that occurred in Massachusetts and Rhode Island; he had met the women through their online advertisements in Craigslist, where they had advertised erotic services.[28] It is unknown whether Markoff was guilty of the charges. He committed suicide in jail on August 15, 2010, several months prior to the scheduled trial.)[47]
Armin Meiwes, known as the "Rotenburg Cannibal" and "The Internet Cannibal", was convicted in 2004 of the consensual suicide-murder pact crime of killing and eating a man whom he had met through the internet.[11][48]
Lisa M. Montgomery, also known as "the Womb Robber", assumed a false persona as an online chat room dog buyer in order to meet with a woman whom she already knew to be pregnant, then killed the woman in order to steal her fetus on December 17, 2004; she was convicted of murder on October 22, 2007; the baby survived.[49]
Thomas Montgomery, a 47-year-old married man was convicted in 2007 of murdering a workmate in a case called the "Internet Chatroom Murder". He posed as "Tommy", a 21-year-old marine, and began an online relationship with a 17-year-old called Jessi. A workmate of his, 22-year-old Brian Barrett, subsequently began an online relationship with the same girl after Montgomery's deception was revealed, and Montgomery shot him in their work car park. "Jessi" was actually a middle-aged woman who had been using pictures of her daughter. A police officer said of Montgomery: "he became a completely different person online". Another commented that: "It's very odd that someone would take another's life over jealousy of a person you've never laid your eyes on".[50][51] A documentary about this case entitledTalhotblond (Jessi's screen name) was released in 2009.[52]
John Edward Robinson, known in the media as "The Internet Slave Master" and "the first Internet serial killer",[13] met his victims through the Internet and tortured them to death.[53][54]
Korena Roberts was arrested in June 2009 for allegedly killing 21-year-old Heather Snively—who was eight-months pregnant—and her fetus, by cutting open her abdomen. They were reported to have met on through an advertisement by Roberts on Craigslist for the sale of baby clothes.[55]
In 2009, Anthony Powell, a 28-year-old student at the Henry Ford Community College in Detroit, shot and killed fellow student, 20 year old Asia McGowan, before shooting himself. Powell had a history of mental illness and used his Youtube account to make hate videos against black women and atheists. McGowan also had an account at Youtube. Powell became obsessed with McGowan through her account, and began stalking her on both Youtube and Facebook. He had decided that black women like McGowan were naturally promiscuous, and had made videos with titles such as "Black Women Don't Deserve Respect", shortly before killing McGowan. It is worth noting that many of Powell's videos were so concerning that many &#933;outube users contacted the Detroit police about them.[56][57][58]
In 2008, Hughstan Schlicker, a 15 year old from Mesa, Arizona, shot his father, Ted Schlicker, in the back of the head. After Hughstan had threatened to kill himself on Myspace, Ted—worried that his son might kill himself—had banned Hughstan from the Internet; as a result, Hughstan had become hateful to his father. Ted also had hidden the family shotgun. However, after Hughstan played hookey from school, he found the gun hidden in a shed, waited at home for his father, and then shot him in the back of the head as his father entered the house. Hughstan then planned to kill himself but was unable to follow through.[59]

Since: Feb 12

United States

#14 Aug 27, 2012
WHEWWWW I hope this is more the enough proof. FOFF your the one that stated I was to show proof of what I write ....
I will admit some girls I am friends with & many many women I have worked with .I considered them WAY to over protective about what their kids read & watch on TV .

Since: Feb 12

United States

#15 Aug 27, 2012
Lets get one thing straight !! I have no problem with anyone man or women getting mad & lashing out. But be a REAL MAN use your{{{ fist}}} Even girls & women pull hair , bite ,Kick & use their fist. WHO throws things??? Kids throw their toys when they have a temper tantrum. Adults fight with their fist.

Since: Feb 12

United States

#16 Aug 27, 2012
I love you skittle fans . Keep the skittles coming :0) :0) My favorite one is the{{ mean}} skittle . After all everyone on here KNOWS I love tongue; HEHEHEHE
kindredspirit26

Roanoke, VA

#17 Aug 29, 2012
manic depressive 2 wrote:
<quoted text>The only answer for this is . Do U have young children watching NASCAR?? If so does it bother U for them to see any driver attack someone physically or dishing out verbal abuse? If it was only watched by adults I would say no problem watch at your own risk .But NASCAR is a family sport children young & old are watching.J/S
I don't think it's just in Nascar.....seems to me I can recall lots of football games, basketball games, baseball games and other sports that are suppose to be a "family sport" but have players attacking each other physically and dishing out verbal abuse. I have seen plays on the football fields that I wouldn't want my young child to see!

Since: Feb 12

United States

#18 Aug 30, 2012
kindredspirit26 wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't think it's just in Nascar.....seems to me I can recall lots of football games, basketball games, baseball games and other sports that are suppose to be a "family sport" but have players attacking each other physically and dishing out verbal abuse. I have seen plays on the football fields that I wouldn't want my young child to see!
That is why it is up to the parents to monitor what their children watch . And this is why almost every thing Computer & TV have parent control. So parents can control what they will allow what their children watch .Hey like I already wrote I know women that monitor their kids TV , Reading & computers . Some people including myself thought some of the mothers were way to over protective. BUT it was their child.

Since: Aug 12

Roanoke, VA

#19 Aug 30, 2012
manic depressive 2 wrote:
<quoted text> That is why it is up to the parents to monitor what their children watch . And this is why almost every thing Computer & TV have parent control. So parents can control what they will allow what their children watch .Hey like I already wrote I know women that monitor their kids TV , Reading & computers . Some people including myself thought some of the mothers were way to over protective. BUT it was their child.
I agree with you & I have been upset with Tony, Jimmy J., Dale Jr., Brad K., and all the others I failed to mention when they let out a mouthful of foul language on TV. I really wish Tony hadn't thrown his helmet, but my first thought was like Carl Edwards said....it could have really been bad for Tony if the helmet had bounced back and hit him. That thought did make me laugh out loud. I'm wondering seriously if the reason NASCAR did not fine him was because of the "boys have at it" but there again, there seems to be inconsistency with NASCAR as to how much is too much. Don't get me wrong, I love that Tony is passionate about racing and that second place is not good enough, but even I don't like when he acts like a butthole on national tv.
Manic depressive

Brooklyn, NY

#20 Aug 30, 2012
kindredspirit26 wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with you & I have been upset with Tony, Jimmy J., Dale Jr., Brad K., and all the others I failed to mention when they let out a mouthful of foul language on TV. I really wish Tony hadn't thrown his helmet, but my first thought was like Carl Edwards said....it could have really been bad for Tony if the helmet had bounced back and hit him. That thought did make me laugh out loud. I'm wondering seriously if the reason NASCAR did not fine him was because of the "boys have at it" but there again, there seems to be inconsistency with NASCAR as to how much is too much. Don't get me wrong, I love that Tony is passionate about racing and that second place is not good enough, but even I don't like when he acts like a butthole on national tv.
I agree :)

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