Zippy back with Stewart

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#41 Dec 20, 2011
OK lets be honest & fair. The only way to compare Darion & Zippy fairly is to compare them to the cars they crew chief Tony and that is the COT. Darian never crew chief for Tony with the old car & NASCAR rules. The past is the past as much as people would like it back its not going to happen. J/S How many championships does Zippy have with Smoke in the COT none hell they didn't even make the chase . How many wins 1 only because Carl E. wiped out all the top running cars. Now Darian & Smoke came off the truck winning their 1st year together . Exactly how many wins to be perfectly honest I have no idea but I do know one thing it was more then 1. They made the chase every yr. More importantly they made & rewrote the Nascar history book by being the 2nd driver / owner that has won a Nascar championship. Plus this yrs. championship will be written as one of the most exciting races in Nascar history . And lets not forget in Darians short career as a crew chief he has won the Super Bowl of racing the Daytona 500. Something DARIAN in his long yrs

as a crew chief has never won. Like I have already wrote Tony's & Zippy chemistry was Back In The Day with the OLD CAR & THE OLD NASCAR. The two of them did shit after switching over to the COT & All the nascar rules . Rules That change every time Brian France snorts a line up his nose :) All I am asking is be honest & fair to both CC at least compare them to the actual cars they CC with Smoke J/S

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#42 Dec 20, 2011
Sorry about breaking up the sentences .I hit the space bar by accident .SORRY

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#43 Dec 20, 2011
I don't have Tony and any kind of pedestal so no danger of him getting a nose bleed from me. In fact I think there's times he can act like a complete jerk. But I do think he's good at driving and at running a business. And I don't believe he got rid of Darian without a good reason so I don't think it's fair to bash him just because we don't know what that is. We're never going to see eye to eye on this so I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
CatRod53

Fort Wayne, IN

#44 Dec 20, 2011
I think the one point we can all agree on is that Tony is an outstanding driver.

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#45 Dec 20, 2011
LTE14 wrote:
I don't have Tony and any kind of pedestal so no danger of him getting a nose bleed from me. In fact I think there's times he can act like a complete jerk. But I do think he's good at driving and at running a business. And I don't believe he got rid of Darian without a good reason so I don't think it's fair to bash him just because we don't know what that is. We're never going to see eye to eye on this so I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
I think the biggest problem is . You women that belong to the Tony Stewart lonely hearts club can not discuse the facts and truth when it comes to Smoke . J/S

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#46 Dec 20, 2011
Manic depressive wrote:
<quoted text> I think the biggest problem is . You women that belong to the Tony Stewart lonely hearts club can not discuse the facts and truth when it comes to Smoke . J/S
Sorry to burst your bubble but I'm not in any "Tony Stewart lonely hearts club". I'm willing to discuss anything you want but just because you don't like or agree with my opinions and views doesn't mean I'm lonely or not entitled to state my views. I don't enjoy arguing just for the sake of arguing so if that's the game you want to play you can count me out.

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#47 Dec 20, 2011
What Ever LMAO Fact #1 Why would Zippy leave Joe Gibbs to SHR. HMMMMMMMMMmm I will put my money on the fact At Gibbs the farthest Zippy can go is CC. It is no secret Gibbs organization is run only by the family. Fact #2 by taking the job with SHR & after they find a crew chief for DP. Zippy's new job will keep him at home were he can watch his kids grow up and have more time with NAN. You people can go on & believe that Zippy is joining SHR because he can not live without being with Smoke . I am going to believe that Zippy wife & kids R the reason Zippy is taking the job. I am putting my money on the fact Zippy's family comes 1st. If some of U people really need to believe Tony can not live without Zippy & vice versa go right a head . I am sticking with family comes 1st & always will.

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#48 Dec 20, 2011
Manic depressive wrote:
What Ever LMAO Fact #1 Why would Zippy leave Joe Gibbs to SHR. HMMMMMMMMMmm I will put my money on the fact At Gibbs the farthest Zippy can go is CC. It is no secret Gibbs organization is run only by the family. Fact #2 by taking the job with SHR & after they find a crew chief for DP. Zippy's new job will keep him at home were he can watch his kids grow up and have more time with NAN. You people can go on & believe that Zippy is joining SHR because he can not live without being with Smoke . I am going to believe that Zippy wife & kids R the reason Zippy is taking the job. I am putting my money on the fact Zippy's family comes 1st. If some of U people really need to believe Tony can not live without Zippy & vice versa go right a head . I am sticking with family comes 1st & always will.
Maybe before you start stating FACTS you should read some articles. Numerous articles have had this quote:

"I've had a great run at Joe Gibbs Racing, this position had been talked about there but wasnÂ’t going to be available for a while."

So it appears that he could have moved up at JGR if he had wanted to wait for it. And I don't think anybody, or certainly not me, has been saying that neither Tony or Zippy can't live without each other. I do however agree with you that family is important to Zippy and this will give him a little bit more time with them.
debrobeaudean

United States

#49 Dec 20, 2011
the COT being a piece of CRAP that STILL gives a HUGE bonus to the lead car with clean air messed up everyone, not just Zippy and Tony... and let me see,,, was that also the year JGR switched to crap cars known as Toyotas??? how can anyone think Zippy could deal with that many changes at the same time? plus... HMS was doing so much testing back then,,, and the "rules" of lapped cars trapping in all the guys not first off pit road made "NASCAR " a pathetiic JOKE the COT years up until THIS season..why?? because the LAPPED CARS do NOT trap anyone in and only REAL racers can deal with double file restarts.
debrobeaudean

United States

#50 Dec 20, 2011
Manic depressive wrote:
What Ever LMAO Fact #1 Why would Zippy leave Joe Gibbs to SHR. HMMMMMMMMMmm I will put my money on the fact At Gibbs the farthest Zippy can go is CC. It is no secret Gibbs organization is run only by the family. Fact #2 by taking the job with SHR & after they find a crew chief for DP. Zippy's new job will keep him at home were he can watch his kids grow up and have more time with NAN. You people can go on & believe that Zippy is joining SHR because he can not live without being with Smoke . I am going to believe that Zippy wife & kids R the reason Zippy is taking the job. I am putting my money on the fact Zippy's family comes 1st. If some of U people really need to believe Tony can not live without Zippy & vice versa go right a head . I am sticking with family comes 1st & always will.
Zippy has been wanting to be competition director for a LONG time.. he would have given up being Tony's crew cheif at JGR if he could have gotten that position there. JGR must like the competition director they have, and it was very NICE of them to let Zippy leave so he could HAVE the position he has so wanted at SHR. I do believe that Darian was a chip to be traded to get Zippy out of his contract.. Tony not filling the position and in fact leaving it open most of this season shows that he was hoping he could give Zippy the opportunity to have the position in the garage that he so desired.
CatRod53

Gary, IN

#51 Dec 21, 2011
These comments/quotes are from Nascar.com and sound likes Zippy wasn't real sure about giving up being a fulltime cc

In fact Zipadelli, 44, who admitted knowing an administrative role was probably in his future, though "this was probably a few years earlier than I wanted to as far as quitting to be a crew chief," said he would gently transition by probably serving as Patrick's crew chief in all 10 of her planned 2012 Cup starts -- for sure at the Daytona test Jan. 12-14 and Patrick's Speedweeks events.

"I'm looking forward to it and I think it'll be fun and exciting and like I said, it helps me a little with the withdrawals of not being on that [pit] box. The races are spread out throughout the year so that'll be good and it shouldn't take a lot away from the things I'm trying to learn."

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#52 Dec 21, 2011
RI hope Denny wins the 2012 Daytona 500. What a slap in the face it would be. Hell it might even make me believe there is really a GOD. LMAO

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#53 Dec 21, 2011
Hell as far as it goes Zippy could be killed by a drunk driver from now until the 500. 2ho the hell knows LOL

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#54 Dec 21, 2011
Manic depressive wrote:
Hell as far as it goes Zippy could be killed by a drunk driver from now until the 500. 2ho the hell knows LOL
oopps What the hell. New cell phone
CatRod53

Gary, IN

#55 Dec 22, 2011
It would be cool if Denny wins the Daytona 500, but I think the #11 team, just like all the others, is working on something much bigger and doesn't have time to concentrate on showing up Tony. Darian knows how to make the most of every opportunity he is given, so I'm looking forward to seeing how Denny does next season.

I already know there is a God and I hope He protects all of us - to enjoy a blessed Christmas and exciting and safe 2012 Nascar season.
debrobeaudean

United States

#56 Dec 22, 2011
Denny winning the 500??? well, that would mean that he would be pushed by Kyle or Joey cuz no other brands are going to push a Toyota to win. Brand loyalty is DEMANDED at this time... who knows? maybe Denny will be the lucky one to win the crap shoot known as the 500.. I personally think with all the changes they are putting in place, it is going to be AMAZING if a SURVIVOR doesn't pull off a win, like the year Harvick got it after ALLLLLL the good cars were wrecked previously. but... it is going to be REAL interesting... I can;t remember which driver said this past week he is SURE guys are going to blow their motors on the last lap... we shall see.. at least NASCAR is trying to break up the 2 car draft that would not have every happened in the old car. Dancing partners in a race,, all day long is pure and 100% BULL CRAP
debrobeaudean

United States

#57 Dec 22, 2011
I personally wonder what on EARTH Mike Ford did to deserve being let go??? HE was the most successful JGR crew cheif over the past 5 years.. I can't wait to hear if Denny enjoys Darians indecisiveness as little as Tony did in the beginning of this season when Tony lost 6 races he shoulda won.
CatRod53

Fort Wayne, IN

#58 Dec 22, 2011
Debi, I'm betting Denny's going to love Darian's confidence and performance under pressure leading the 14 team to 5 wins and the Championship in the Chase. Somebody had to turn that team around after the Aug Michigan race when Tony did not expect or think they deserved to be in the Chase.
TonyChampion

San Antonio, TX

#59 Dec 22, 2011
Why are you people so angry?

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#60 Dec 22, 2011
TonyChampion wrote:
Why are you people so angry?
It's all about change. if your not willing to make changes you get left behind! so many hate changes that's why there are few over achievers in the world. Get out of your comfort zone and shoot for the stars it's the only way to win. Not that winning is always coming in first! But in business winning pays a lot better.
Most on here come from a generation of get a job stay with it for 35 years. Tony and Darians generation comes from a normal expectant change of jobs at least 7 times in their working career. Most expect 10 to 12 times.

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