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A quick look back at the NASCAR season that was 2007 It started in February and ended on Sunday--that 10-month road trip that is the NASCAR Nextel Cup schedule. Full Story
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Barb

Fremont, OH

#1 Nov 19, 2007
If the cot cars are suppose to all be the same and evens up everyone why do the same drivers always win. something is not right.
Sadler

United States

#2 Nov 20, 2007
Barb wrote:
If the cot cars are suppose to all be the same and evens up everyone why do the same drivers always win. something is not right.
The cars will never be completely the same. There are so many different adjustments that can be made to gain an advantage and some are just better at it than others. Also, there are drivers who are more skilled. The purpose of the COT was to level the playing field more than it was, not to make everything completely equal. Cars are always going to be set up to suit a drivers style and there's as many styles as there are drivers. The bigger, richer, teams are always going to have an advantage, because they have the resources to test and figure out set-ups that work. Is it fair, of course not, but since when has any competition ever been fair.(The Chicago Bulls wouldn't have given up Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen because it wasn't fair for the other teams; The Patriots aren't going to give up Tom Brady and Randy Moss because they're to good)
Sadler

United States

#3 Nov 20, 2007
continued from above.... It's nice to see an underdog win sometimes, we all enjoy it a little. The reality is, those that have the resources and smarts to put together the right team are going to win out the vast majority of the time. Those who can never build up an organization to match them, will fail. We all claim that we want to see things more equal at times, but we love when it's our guy/guys/gal/gals on top. I'm a realist! I want to see my team/individual win every time and I'm always going to be a little disappointed if they don't. Does that mean I can't be happy unless my guy wins? Nope! It just means that I'm not as happy as I would have been. I've never watched any kind of event and not been rooting for someone to win it. It's human nature to be competitive and to want to beat the other guy. Hopefully I'm making sense. It's late and I've had a lot of coffee. My point is this. None of us really want things to be equal. If we did we wouldn't keep score in any way, we'd just enjoy watching and participating in competition. Read some of the posts on here where people say thing's like, can't we all just be adults, or get along. Than read some posts from that same person when someone insults or criticizes who they root for. I guarantee you'll see them throw some insults and criticisms back. It's not because their hypicrites, or bad people, there just human. I include myself in that too. I'm generally a nice enough person, but rest assured, you'll at times see me go off to some degree to defend my team/driver. I may even at times insult people or who they root for. Although I sometimes regret it, I also accept that's the way we all are. I'm certainly not above apologizing when I make a comment in the heat of the moment, that was really uncalled for. I also understand that others are just like me, so take everything with a grain of salt.

Since: Sep 07

Location hidden

#4 Nov 20, 2007
I find it fascinating that one year a certain team can be dominating and then the next year they completely stink.

Can't figure that one out.

“Smoke and the Rocketman”

Since: Jan 07

United States

#5 Nov 20, 2007
the only reason that Hendrick dominated this season with so many wins was because they knew the inadequacies of the COT, not being able to pass, not being able to turn.. if you cannot pass.. you cannot race.. it is that simple. Track position will determine a race every time if no one can pass.. Darryl Waltrip said it on Sunday that they have got to let the teams adjust these cars more so they can be driven. When I would be at a COT race this season, I would be there for happy hour and watch the 20 team tune the car in to where Tony could get it to turn in the center of the corner.. then as I would sit there watching the cars go through tech inspection, they would make them raise the hood to take out a lot of the adjustments they had made the previous day.. that is just stupid and shows that the teams are not allowed to make adequate adjustmewnts on the COT. This winter they have got to figure it out how to let all the racers have cars that they can drive.. we are used to seeing Ryan, Kurt, Elliot, Kasey among others, racing well,, but not this year.. NASCAR has to have information flow this winter on what can be done to these cars so all the drivers can race as it should be. Pit selection should not be the most important part of a race weekend, ensuring good track position if the pit team is fast, and then a win

“JRW 88 Fan 4 Life!!”

Since: Jul 07

EARNHARDTVILLE

#6 Nov 20, 2007
Debi Does wrote:
the only reason that Hendrick dominated this season with so many wins was because they knew the inadequacies of the COT, not being able to pass, not being able to turn.. if you cannot pass.. you cannot race.. it is that simple. Track position will determine a race every time if no one can pass.. Darryl Waltrip said it on Sunday that they have got to let the teams adjust these cars more so they can be driven. When I would be at a COT race this season, I would be there for happy hour and watch the 20 team tune the car in to where Tony could get it to turn in the center of the corner.. then as I would sit there watching the cars go through tech inspection, they would make them raise the hood to take out a lot of the adjustments they had made the previous day.. that is just stupid and shows that the teams are not allowed to make adequate adjustmewnts on the COT. This winter they have got to figure it out how to let all the racers have cars that they can drive.. we are used to seeing Ryan, Kurt, Elliot, Kasey among others, racing well,, but not this year.. NASCAR has to have information flow this winter on what can be done to these cars so all the drivers can race as it should be. Pit selection should not be the most important part of a race weekend, ensuring good track position if the pit team is fast, and then a win
Debi..I can't believe what i'm reading..But for the first time since i've been reading your post..I absoulety agree with you..give the darn guys a chance to race! ALL OF EM!!..Hope your Thanksgiving is Wonderful!!

“"drive for five in'10"”

Since: Jan 07

Your the Man!

#7 Nov 20, 2007
Debi Does wrote:
the only reason that Hendrick dominated this season with so many wins was because they knew the inadequacies of the COT, not being able to pass, not being able to turn.. if you cannot pass.. you cannot race.. it is that simple. Track position will determine a race every time if no one can pass.. Darryl Waltrip said it on Sunday that they have got to let the teams adjust these cars more so they can be driven. When I would be at a COT race this season, I would be there for happy hour and watch the 20 team tune the car in to where Tony could get it to turn in the center of the corner.. then as I would sit there watching the cars go through tech inspection, they would make them raise the hood to take out a lot of the adjustments they had made the previous day.. that is just stupid and shows that the teams are not allowed to make adequate adjustmewnts on the COT. This winter they have got to figure it out how to let all the racers have cars that they can drive.. we are used to seeing Ryan, Kurt, Elliot, Kasey among others, racing well,, but not this year.. NASCAR has to have information flow this winter on what can be done to these cars so all the drivers can race as it should be. Pit selection should not be the most important part of a race weekend, ensuring good track position if the pit team is fast, and then a win
OMG! I absolutely agree with you 100%. Loved this post and would like to see more.

Since: Dec 06

Kirksey, KY

#8 Nov 20, 2007
Debi Does wrote:
the only reason that Hendrick dominated this season with so many wins was because they knew the inadequacies of the COT, not being able to pass, not being able to turn.. if you cannot pass.. you cannot race.. it is that simple. Track position will determine a race every time if no one can pass.. Darryl Waltrip said it on Sunday that they have got to let the teams adjust these cars more so they can be driven. When I would be at a COT race this season, I would be there for happy hour and watch the 20 team tune the car in to where Tony could get it to turn in the center of the corner.. then as I would sit there watching the cars go through tech inspection, they would make them raise the hood to take out a lot of the adjustments they had made the previous day.. that is just stupid and shows that the teams are not allowed to make adequate adjustmewnts on the COT. This winter they have got to figure it out how to let all the racers have cars that they can drive.. we are used to seeing Ryan, Kurt, Elliot, Kasey among others, racing well,, but not this year.. NASCAR has to have information flow this winter on what can be done to these cars so all the drivers can race as it should be. Pit selection should not be the most important part of a race weekend, ensuring good track position if the pit team is fast, and then a win
I couldn't agree more-and I give credit for Hendrick Motorsports for stepping up and doing the research, testing, etc. on the COT so they would be a force to be reckoned with this year. I think alot of teams got caught unprepared, Jack Rousch even admitted it-and it cost them.

Good article on COT and Hendrick domination this year..

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers...

Since: Dec 06

Kirksey, KY

#9 Nov 20, 2007
jimmy48 wrote:
<quoted text>OMG! I absolutely agree with you 100%. Loved this post and would like to see more.
Love the avatar girl, and your right-Jimmie does rock:) Enjoy your Thanksgiving!

“"drive for five in'10"”

Since: Jan 07

Your the Man!

#10 Nov 20, 2007
Boscoe wrote:
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Love the avatar girl, and your right-Jimmie does rock:) Enjoy your Thanksgiving!
Hey girl! Happy T'giving to you too.

“JRW 88 Fan 4 Life!!”

Since: Jul 07

EARNHARDTVILLE

#11 Nov 20, 2007
jimmy48 wrote:
<quoted text>OMG! I absolutely agree with you 100%. Loved this post and would like to see more.
DITTO! The girl has it going on in this post!!! Happy Holidays to you,your family Bren,luvs ya!
JR-SR FAN

Cary, NC

#12 Nov 20, 2007
Barb wrote:
If the cot cars are suppose to all be the same and evens up everyone why do the same drivers always win. something is not right.
Barb, making the cars more equal in performance is not going to increase the number of different drivers that win, it is going to decrease the number. When all things are equal except the driver and crew, the very best drivers and crews are going to do all the winning. Look at the major teams, they have the best people, they will continue to do most all the winning. Hendrick Motor Sports had a great year in 2007 but they should do even better in 2008 in the new car.

Since: May 07

Spokane, WA

#13 Nov 20, 2007
With all of the abundant changes in 08 I have to believe that the racing will get better. I can not bare so see another year of the Hendrick Dynasty, even as a Hendrick fan it gets a little monotinous watching the same teams go to the front every weekend. I am hoping that with the new year, new name changes to both series, all of the cars running the same car each and every week, driver and crew changes things will settle down a bit. I hope that all the teams really get the most out of their R&D this off season and come back with the knowledge some were lacking. They have all had a taste of the COT and they should all be getting a feel for it by now, and now that the old car is extinct they can really make the most of this COT and challenge themselves to move forward. I truly hope that it does pan out to be a more level playing field like it was originally supposed to be. The owners really need to take a cue form the Hendrick organization and get their drivers that "winning combo" of driver and crew chief. I believe that the chemistry has to be there for both. Look how well it paid off for some of them. I am hoping that 08 will be the season that all will be to proud to be a fan of, and that there wont be so much of a monopoly.

Since: Sep 07

Location hidden

#14 Nov 20, 2007
Tamara24 wrote:
With all of the abundant changes in 08 I have to believe that the racing will get better. I can not bare so see another year of the Hendrick Dynasty, even as a Hendrick fan it gets a little monotinous watching the same teams go to the front every weekend. I am hoping that with the new year, new name changes to both series, all of the cars running the same car each and every week, driver and crew changes things will settle down a bit. I hope that all the teams really get the most out of their R&D this off season and come back with the knowledge some were lacking. They have all had a taste of the COT and they should all be getting a feel for it by now, and now that the old car is extinct they can really make the most of this COT and challenge themselves to move forward. I truly hope that it does pan out to be a more level playing field like it was originally supposed to be. The owners really need to take a cue form the Hendrick organization and get their drivers that "winning combo" of driver and crew chief. I believe that the chemistry has to be there for both. Look how well it paid off for some of them. I am hoping that 08 will be the season that all will be to proud to be a fan of, and that there wont be so much of a monopoly.
That better happen, IMHO, or NASCAR will find itself with out any fans left.

Since: May 07

Spokane, WA

#15 Nov 20, 2007
Tony Rules wrote:
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That better happen, IMHO, or NASCAR will find itself with out any fans left.
Heck if it doesn't change, I wont be a fan! I love NASCAR but it is waayy annoying to watch when you basically know what the outcome is going to be. I hear ya...
Happy Thanksgiving gal!!
BigTony20

AOL

#16 Nov 20, 2007
Looking back on it now and pondering about the 2007 season and reading these posts this thought has come to me. Perhaps it was a bad idea to have this season split between 2 cars. The teams with deeper pockets could afford to run a full testing program on both cars if they chose to do so. Hendricks chose to Roush chose not to at first. The teams that didnt have the financial resources, could afford to run 1 testing program but not fund 2 simultaneous testing programs so they split their testing between the 2 cars and did what they could afford to do. Next year everybody can concentrate 100% on 1 car.

Since: May 07

Spokane, WA

#17 Nov 20, 2007
BigTony20 wrote:
Looking back on it now and pondering about the 2007 season and reading these posts this thought has come to me. Perhaps it was a bad idea to have this season split between 2 cars. The teams with deeper pockets could afford to run a full testing program on both cars if they chose to do so. Hendricks chose to Roush chose not to at first. The teams that didnt have the financial resources, could afford to run 1 testing program but not fund 2 simultaneous testing programs so they split their testing between the 2 cars and did what they could afford to do. Next year everybody can concentrate 100% on 1 car.
That's what I was getting at. It should be a better, more level playing field. I hope so!

“Bye old girl, you been great. ”

Since: Feb 07

Bradenton, FL

#18 Nov 20, 2007
BigTony20 wrote:
Looking back on it now and pondering about the 2007 season and reading these posts this thought has come to me. Perhaps it was a bad idea to have this season split between 2 cars. The teams with deeper pockets could afford to run a full testing program on both cars if they chose to do so. Hendricks chose to Roush chose not to at first. The teams that didnt have the financial resources, could afford to run 1 testing program but not fund 2 simultaneous testing programs so they split their testing between the 2 cars and did what they could afford to do. Next year everybody can concentrate 100% on 1 car.
That what the drivers and owners said. If we are going to run this thing lets go all in and run it. Hints why now they are stepping up the COT for next year. 2008 was going to be a couple more races with it and still have the spoiler car as well. So for once NASCAR listened. but I hope the other teams can now find out what they are missing.
JR-SR FAN

Cary, NC

#19 Nov 20, 2007
What in the world do you people expect from NASCAR. No other series in major motor sports even comes close to being as competitive as NASCAR. Even as dominant as the Hendrick team was it was spread out over four cars. There are always going to be dominant teams. What do you think people were saying in 1967 when the King won 27 races and 10 of them in a row. We have more different drivers winning races today than any other time in NASCAR history. Look it up. Sixteen (16) different drivers won a race in Cup in 2007. This Bullsh*t about a level playing field, what in the hell does that mean anyway. NASCAR can't dictate how intelligent people are or how much talent a driver has. Damn, quit crying.
BigTony20

AOL

#20 Nov 20, 2007
Tamara24 wrote:
<quoted text>That's what I was getting at. It should be a better, more level playing field. I hope so!
Indeed you were getting at that and your post #13 was well thought out and made a lot of very good points which is what caused me to reflect.

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