Dale Jr. to RCR? Not as Outlandish as...

Dale Jr. to RCR? Not as Outlandish as You Might Think

There are 199 comments on the www.topix.net story from Oct 22, 2009, titled Dale Jr. to RCR? Not as Outlandish as You Might Think . In it, www.topix.net reports that:

Think about it: Harvick could join Stewart Haas Racing as a third driver . Harvick leaves RCR and Junior arrives, just in time for the 10th anniversary of his late father's death at Daytona International Speedway.

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Not so

Katy, TX

#21 Oct 23, 2009
MarkL5 wrote:
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Hold on there Hoss...
Why do you think some guys always get rides year after year?
Richard Childress is like family to Dale Jr. Dale Jr. brings a lot of marketing support for RCR, who frankly would not mind having Jr. in the fold considering his ability to draw sponsor money.
One problem with that is that the longer Jr fiddles around, the less value he offers to sponsors and the weaker his marketing support becomes. Sponsors want winners, or at least players who actually try to score a point now and then. They want someone who's attitude reflects a positive message, that of a winner, to the potential customer. The last season with DEI and now this season with HMS are clear indicator's that Jr does not have his heart in the game, which is perceived as him being a quitter that can't focus on the task at hand. This is not the image a sponsor is looking for when they look to find a sports star to endorse their products. If Jr doesn't get focused and start to show the sponsors that he's competitive, they will soon move on to other sports stars who portray the winning image they want consumers to associate with their product.

I remember, when he was leaving DEI, many of his fans insisted that BUD would never sponsor another driver so if a deal was not made to move BUD with Bug, there would be no BUD car on the track. Well, seems to me the BUD car is still there, painted much as it was when Jr drove it, but with a different number on the door and a different driver behind the wheel. By the way, the BUD car (with the new driver) has been seen in Victory Lane twice this season, do you think BUD is crying in their porridge that they aren't sponsoring Jr anymore? Jr is in the garage more than he's in the winners circle. BUD would rather be sponsoring a winner and have a truly competitive driver on their billboard. That sells product more than the image of a car on the rack in the garage and yet another stumbling hillbilly interview with a driver that can't seem to focus long enough to finish a race.
x jr fan

United States

#22 Oct 23, 2009
Not so wrote:
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One problem with that is that the longer Jr fiddles around, the less value he offers to sponsors and the weaker his marketing support becomes. Sponsors want winners, or at least players who actually try to score a point now and then. They want someone who's attitude reflects a positive message, that of a winner, to the potential customer. The last season with DEI and now this season with HMS are clear indicator's that Jr does not have his heart in the game, which is perceived as him being a quitter that can't focus on the task at hand. This is not the image a sponsor is looking for when they look to find a sports star to endorse their products. If Jr doesn't get focused and start to show the sponsors that he's competitive, they will soon move on to other sports stars who portray the winning image they want consumers to associate with their product.
I remember, when he was leaving DEI, many of his fans insisted that BUD would never sponsor another driver so if a deal was not made to move BUD with Bug, there would be no BUD car on the track. Well, seems to me the BUD car is still there, painted much as it was when Jr drove it, but with a different number on the door and a different driver behind the wheel. By the way, the BUD car (with the new driver) has been seen in Victory Lane twice this season, do you think BUD is crying in their porridge that they aren't sponsoring Jr anymore? Jr is in the garage more than he's in the winners circle. BUD would rather be sponsoring a winner and have a truly competitive driver on their billboard. That sells product more than the image of a car on the rack in the garage and yet another stumbling hillbilly interview with a driver that can't seem to focus long enough to finish a race.
i agree on everything except one thing, Jr goes to Victory Lane quite often to congradulate his teamates

Since: Apr 07

United States

#23 Oct 26, 2009
Not so wrote:
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One problem with that is that the longer Jr fiddles around, the less value he offers to sponsors and the weaker his marketing support becomes. Sponsors want winners, or at least players who actually try to score a point now and then. They want someone who's attitude reflects a positive message, that of a winner, to the potential customer. The last season with DEI and now this season with HMS are clear indicator's that Jr does not have his heart in the game, which is perceived as him being a quitter that can't focus on the task at hand. This is not the image a sponsor is looking for when they look to find a sports star to endorse their products. If Jr doesn't get focused and start to show the sponsors that he's competitive, they will soon move on to other sports stars who portray the winning image they want consumers to associate with their product.
I remember, when he was leaving DEI, many of his fans insisted that BUD would never sponsor another driver so if a deal was not made to move BUD with Bug, there would be no BUD car on the track. Well, seems to me the BUD car is still there, painted much as it was when Jr drove it, but with a different number on the door and a different driver behind the wheel. By the way, the BUD car (with the new driver) has been seen in Victory Lane twice this season, do you think BUD is crying in their porridge that they aren't sponsoring Jr anymore? Jr is in the garage more than he's in the winners circle. BUD would rather be sponsoring a winner and have a truly competitive driver on their billboard. That sells product more than the image of a car on the rack in the garage and yet another stumbling hillbilly interview with a driver that can't seem to focus long enough to finish a race.
For the record, Bud was willing to go with Jr. if he did not go to Hendrick. Hendrick had Bud for five years, and if memory serves me, they only won once with the sponsorship. Bud wanted nothing to do with Hendrick - ESPECIALLY after Rick H. told the media that Bud sponsorship was not needed and that he already had sponsoors lined up for Earnhardt if he decided to come there.

Understand this...

There was a bidding war for Jr's services. He was not a driver out there with his hand out asking for a ride. Teams like Hendrick, RCR, Ginn and others were not only interested but working like crazy to sign him. Something we had never seen in this sport. For the first time in NASCAR history, a free-agent was caught in a bidding war. Suddenly NASCAR looked like the NFL, NBA or MLB where an available athlete was concerned.

The biggest reason why this happened is not because he's the greates driver, but because COMPANIES WANTED HIM. Hendrick can say what he wants, but the National Guard WANTED him, Mountain Dew WANTED him, and he elects to stay at Hendrick, it will be because companies want to sponsor him!

Go to the Talladega race and listen to that crowd when he takes the lead, you can barely hear the cars over it. This is still a popular driver with the marketing-earning potential that every racing team covets. I repeat... RACING IS ALSO A BUSINESS, and Dale Earnhardt Jr. drives business for those who sponsor him.

This may change in the future if he continues to fail on-track, but for right now, no driver is in greater demand by fans, and that resinates with those companies who want to sell product. That crap about companies wanting driver who win may be true, but they above all want drivers who SELL.

Jr. Sells... PERIOD.
Bubba

United States

#24 Oct 26, 2009
MarkL5 wrote:
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For the record, Bud was willing to go with Jr. if he did not go to Hendrick. Hendrick had Bud for five years, and if memory serves me, they only won once with the sponsorship. Bud wanted nothing to do with Hendrick - ESPECIALLY after Rick H. told the media that Bud sponsorship was not needed and that he already had sponsoors lined up for Earnhardt if he decided to come there.
Understand this...
There was a bidding war for Jr's services. He was not a driver out there with his hand out asking for a ride. Teams like Hendrick, RCR, Ginn and others were not only interested but working like crazy to sign him. Something we had never seen in this sport. For the first time in NASCAR history, a free-agent was caught in a bidding war. Suddenly NASCAR looked like the NFL, NBA or MLB where an available athlete was concerned.
The biggest reason why this happened is not because he's the greates driver, but because COMPANIES WANTED HIM. Hendrick can say what he wants, but the National Guard WANTED him, Mountain Dew WANTED him, and he elects to stay at Hendrick, it will be because companies want to sponsor him!
Go to the Talladega race and listen to that crowd when he takes the lead, you can barely hear the cars over it. This is still a popular driver with the marketing-earning potential that every racing team covets. I repeat... RACING IS ALSO A BUSINESS, and Dale Earnhardt Jr. drives business for those who sponsor him.
This may change in the future if he continues to fail on-track, but for right now, no driver is in greater demand by fans, and that resinates with those companies who want to sell product. That crap about companies wanting driver who win may be true, but they above all want drivers who SELL.
Jr. Sells... PERIOD.
junhyer sells alot of hotdogs and beer after each talladega race because all his fans chuck their cans onto the track and they have to buy a few as they are leaving the track.

Joonyer also helps keep the parts suppliers happy. They sell a ton of parts to HMS every Monday so they can put jew-nyars cars back together.
justalastname

AOL

#25 Oct 26, 2009
MarkL5 wrote:
<quoted text>
For the record, Bud was willing to go with Jr. if he did not go to Hendrick. Hendrick had Bud for five years, and if memory serves me, they only won once with the sponsorship. Bud wanted nothing to do with Hendrick - ESPECIALLY after Rick H. told the media that Bud sponsorship was not needed and that he already had sponsoors lined up for Earnhardt if he decided to come there.
Understand this...
There was a bidding war for Jr's services. He was not a driver out there with his hand out asking for a ride. Teams like Hendrick, RCR, Ginn and others were not only interested but working like crazy to sign him. Something we had never seen in this sport. For the first time in NASCAR history, a free-agent was caught in a bidding war. Suddenly NASCAR looked like the NFL, NBA or MLB where an available athlete was concerned.
The biggest reason why this happened is not because he's the greates driver, but because COMPANIES WANTED HIM. Hendrick can say what he wants, but the National Guard WANTED him, Mountain Dew WANTED him, and he elects to stay at Hendrick, it will be because companies want to sponsor him!
Go to the Talladega race and listen to that crowd when he takes the lead, you can barely hear the cars over it. This is still a popular driver with the marketing-earning potential that every racing team covets. I repeat... RACING IS ALSO A BUSINESS, and Dale Earnhardt Jr. drives business for those who sponsor him.
This may change in the future if he continues to fail on-track, but for right now, no driver is in greater demand by fans, and that resinates with those companies who want to sell product. That crap about companies wanting driver who win may be true, but they above all want drivers who SELL.
Jr. Sells... PERIOD.
yeah but he is still a joke
TEXJRFAN

Rockwall, TX

#26 Oct 26, 2009
Most of you people are a bunch of idiots as i'm reading these posts. Junior will be fine, but it's quite an undertaking to meet the expectations that have been put on his shoulders, Hell was Kyle Petty close to Richard, not even close, the media to be honest is the one looking like a bunch of jackasses for the self anoiting Jr. just because of his father.
x jr fan

United States

#27 Oct 26, 2009
no way was Dale Sr his dad
95 Thunderbird

Burgessville, Canada

#28 Oct 26, 2009
TEXJRFAN wrote:
Most of you people are a bunch of idiots as i'm reading these posts. Junior will be fine, but it's quite an undertaking to meet the expectations that have been put on his shoulders, Hell was Kyle Petty close to Richard, not even close, the media to be honest is the one looking like a bunch of jackasses for the self anoiting Jr. just because of his father.
The media and fans never held Kyle up on a pedestal like little "E" rror.
Old Broad

AOL

#29 Oct 27, 2009
You bashers need to get a life, how would you like people writing all this stuff about you? Jr is a knowledgable driver and a good driver,(not great), but better than average. Look at Harvick, Biffle, Kurt Busch, Kenseth, all of them have had some bad times, plus many more, even Gordan has had bad years and still can't beat Jimmy. Until Jimmy starts to flounder, the races are about over for excitement unless you are a Jimmy fan. Hendrick is going to stick with Jr since they go back a long way with their families, he will work with him until he gets his mo-jo back and he will. Why go to RCR, they don't have one driver in the Chase, he will never drive the #3 permanently, he's said so and he shouldn't. Encourage him to do better and stop beating him down, how horrible to treat another human being in this manner.
Bubba

United States

#30 Oct 27, 2009
Old Broad wrote:
You bashers need to get a life, how would you like people writing all this stuff about you? Jr is a knowledgable driver and a good driver,(not great), but better than average. Look at Harvick, Biffle, Kurt Busch, Kenseth, all of them have had some bad times, plus many more, even Gordan has had bad years and still can't beat Jimmy. Until Jimmy starts to flounder, the races are about over for excitement unless you are a Jimmy fan. Hendrick is going to stick with Jr since they go back a long way with their families, he will work with him until he gets his mo-jo back and he will. Why go to RCR, they don't have one driver in the Chase, he will never drive the #3 permanently, he's said so and he shouldn't. Encourage him to do better and stop beating him down, how horrible to treat another human being in this manner.
The difference is the fact that the other drivers you listed are not on the same team as the guys 1,2,3, in points. He has same equipment and is 24th. Joonyer is not an average driver. He is only ahead of 8 drivers that have started all the races this year, only 8. Look at the equipment they are in and where their teamates are running. Juhnyer nation proves that he is a terrible driver every year by getting all excited when Talladega approaches because they know that is the only place he has a chance to win. This is because it requires no talent or driving ability to run well at 'dega. You just run wide open all day and turn the wheel slightly in the corners...a monkey can do that. Where else do you ever hear someone say, "he's got too big of a lead, he better watch out and not get to far ahead". Real racing is all about getting the biggest lead possible, not riding the brake half way around the track while never lifting the whole race. The majority of juhnyer's and all of mikey waltrip's wins at DEI were done this way. Now they can't even finish top 20 in non-restrictor plate races.

Since: Apr 07

United States

#31 Oct 27, 2009
Bubba wrote:
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The difference is the fact that the other drivers you listed are not on the same team as the guys 1,2,3, in points. He has same equipment and is 24th. Joonyer is not an average driver. He is only ahead of 8 drivers that have started all the races this year, only 8. Look at the equipment they are in and where their teamates are running. Juhnyer nation proves that he is a terrible driver every year by getting all excited when Talladega approaches because they know that is the only place he has a chance to win. This is because it requires no talent or driving ability to run well at 'dega. You just run wide open all day and turn the wheel slightly in the corners...a monkey can do that. Where else do you ever hear someone say, "he's got too big of a lead, he better watch out and not get to far ahead". Real racing is all about getting the biggest lead possible, not riding the brake half way around the track while never lifting the whole race. The majority of juhnyer's and all of mikey waltrip's wins at DEI were done this way. Now they can't even finish top 20 in non-restrictor plate races.
Dale Earnhardt Jr. Career highlights:

18 career Cup POINTS wins
2 CONSECUTIVE Busch Series Championships
2004 Daytona 500 Champion
Winner of THE WINSTON
Multiple winner of the Bud Shootout at Daytona

Cup Series wins at the following tracks:
Daytona, Dover, Talladega, Phoenix, Atlanta, Richmond, Bristol, Chicago, Michigan.

Dover, Phoenix, Bristol, Atlanta and Chicago are not plate tracks, and nobody gives you a championship in ANY NASCAR division, much less BACK TO BACK championships.

Don't let your emotions overload the facts. Dale Earnhardt Jr. can drive a car on any track and win. The problem is not talent, it is COMMITMENT to the sport. The problem is that he is just as much a celebrity as he is a driver and one gets in the way of the other.

It's that simple.

Since: Feb 09

Kansa City, Mo. now Dexter

#32 Oct 27, 2009
I was suprised taht Jr. didn't end up with RCR when he left DEI and his bitch of a step mother. It's the perfect fit. If anyone is going to drive a # 3 car that exactly who it should be. This gut can drive he's won between 16 and 18 races in cup and a championship in Busch.

Since: Feb 09

Kansa City, Mo. now Dexter

#33 Oct 27, 2009
sorry about the typos

“Just quit jr.”

Since: Aug 09

WVU

#34 Oct 27, 2009
juneher is a NASCAR driver(and not a top one), not a race car driver, and there is a difference. Tony Stewart, Jeff Gordon, Juan Montoya, Jimmie Johnson, Kasey Kahne, Ryan Newman etc. are race car drivers simply because they will and most have, jump into any type of race car and compete. Last year's Prelude is a good example, Montoya had never even been to a dirt track, but jumped in a dirt late model and did pretty good, something that juneher can't and won't do. Juneher in a winged sprint, ain't going to happen, juneher in an Indy car, keep dreaming...juneher in a midget, well, he's probably done that.....
Wang

Raleigh, NC

#35 Oct 27, 2009
TEXJRFAN wrote:
Most of you people are a bunch of idiots as i'm reading these posts. Junior will be fine, but it's quite an undertaking to meet the expectations that have been put on his shoulders, Hell was Kyle Petty close to Richard, not even close, the media to be honest is the one looking like a bunch of jackasses for the self anoiting Jr. just because of his father.
This excerrent post. You hit nair on head. Dare Jl. and Kyre Petty have the same dliving skirrs. Hopefurry it wirr not take Dare Jl. as rong as it took Kyre to learize that he shourd be doing anything but dliving lace cal.
Bubba

United States

#36 Oct 27, 2009
MarkL5 wrote:
<quoted text>
Dale Earnhardt Jr. Career highlights:
18 career Cup POINTS wins
2 CONSECUTIVE Busch Series Championships
2004 Daytona 500 Champion
Winner of THE WINSTON
Multiple winner of the Bud Shootout at Daytona
Cup Series wins at the following tracks:
Daytona, Dover, Talladega, Phoenix, Atlanta, Richmond, Bristol, Chicago, Michigan.
Dover, Phoenix, Bristol, Atlanta and Chicago are not plate tracks, and nobody gives you a championship in ANY NASCAR division, much less BACK TO BACK championships.
Don't let your emotions overload the facts. Dale Earnhardt Jr. can drive a car on any track and win. The problem is not talent, it is COMMITMENT to the sport. The problem is that he is just as much a celebrity as he is a driver and one gets in the way of the other.
It's that simple.
Sounds like he should go back to the Busch/Nationwide series if he can get his step mom to hire him and have him drive a car with Winston Cup support and crew like he had before. Or maybe not, he wouldn't like getting his tail wooped every week by shrubby and it would give juhnyer nation more to whine about. Bottom line is that juhnyer is 24th in points and ALL his teamates are 1,2,3,4, and 7 for a reason. Same equipment, different skill and talent. A good driver in the CUP series can at least once in their career, win back to back races to validate the win was not a fluke, joonyer has NEVER done this. I agree Juhnyer is desperately lacking committment, but also talent and ACCOUNTABILITY.
x jr fan

United States

#37 Oct 27, 2009
jhdetailing wrote:
I was suprised taht Jr. didn't end up with RCR when he left DEI and his bitch of a step mother. It's the perfect fit. If anyone is going to drive a # 3 car that exactly who it should be. This gut can drive he's won between 16 and 18 races in cup and a championship in Busch.
him drive the #3, what a joke

Since: Feb 09

Kansa City, Mo. now Dexter

#38 Oct 27, 2009
x jr fan wrote:
<quoted text>him drive the #3, what a joke
your the joke
x jr fan

United States

#39 Oct 27, 2009
jhdetailing wrote:
<quoted text>your the joke
making Hendrick look like a idiot wasn't enough, you want him to go to Childress and disgrace him and the #3. i hope Childress isn't that stupid
x jr fan

United States

#40 Oct 27, 2009
i think Childress will learn fron Hendrick's mistake

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