ol wall

Springfield, OH

#1 Apr 17, 2011
Hey, GoPOS, I hope you will drop-by and lay one of your very famous....."POS-Race-Repo rts"....on us.

Today's race should have given you a lot of material to write about, especially how NOBODY would draft with the world's greatest restrictor-plate racer (well, that is his and DW's opinion, about his talent?)

I am still laughing my ass-off, from listening to his scanner, today.

How about his great CC....Bobby "10-4/Mr.Rocket Fuel" Kennedy.....running him out-of-gas......10-4?

Thanks, in advance, for your informative-report!

Wait-For-It!
ol wall

Springfield, OH

#2 Apr 18, 2011
Anybody hear anything from GoPOS? He usually stops by with one of his great......"race-reports ".....on just how well POS runs, during the race.

I hope he is not too embarrassed, that POS could only find guys like rookie, Andy Lally, to draft with, instead of his usual drafting partners like, "Dork", Juuuuuuuuuuuunior, Jimmy or Robby Gordan.

I know it is kind of difficult to find drafting partners, when you are running 4 laps off the pace and tend to introduce your drafting partners to the......wall, and cause the....."big-one"! LMAO!

Driving a Ferrari in the LeMans race? What do you want to bet that he plows that Ferrari into one of those walls, over in France? Does this prove that Cough....man has more $$$$$(I mean Lyra) than good-sense?

AC remembers how those...."hands".... start to shake, when he drives on a road course. LMAO!

We're ready for yesterday's report, GoPOS.

You must be very proud of how POS has been running, since his retirement and even those last couple of seasons before he announced.....retirement!

Waiting-For-It!

“Let them hate, Drive More Mike”

Since: May 08

Waltrip fans! An Army of One!

#3 Apr 18, 2011
wall, you should know if I haven't been embarrassed after calling this guy my favorite driver since 1994, I'm not going to be embarrassed now. I've had plenty more to be embarrassed about than that effort. Take 2007 for instance. THAT'S embarrassing. It is true I haven't had much at all to cheer about since he left DEI. In fact very little. But I'm not going to be upset with Mike's effort yesterday from what I seen.

First of all, let me reiterate that I'm not a fan of this 2 car drafting system that has been cooked up this season and has been brewing for 2 or 3 years now. It used to be the cars would remain in a big pack and draft amongst themselves and then 2 cars would hook up for maybe 2 laps and gain an advantage for those 2 laps. But they couldn't stay hooked up or they would blow their engines or something bad like that. It was only something you could pull out of your bag of tricks for brief periods and only if you had a good dance partner ready to play the same trick. Now it's the ONLY trick! Instead of drafting from car to car the way it used to be done, now you have to have a partner from the green until the checkered, if you ain't got one....you're screwed! Yesterday was a perfect example of that.

How ironic was it to see Mike pushing Clint Bowyer to the front and either keeping him there or pushing him back to the front again and again??? One thing I noticed, Bowyer never switched once! He never let Mike take the lead of the 2 cars. Mike stayed behind Bowyer the entire run until the 1st caution and they were up front nearly the entire time! And Mike was pushing him. I'll tell you what. I know Bowyer spent a lot of time up front yesterday, but he never looked as powerful as when Mike pushed him. Yes he led, but with Mike, they drove up to the front at will. It was totally ironic it was Bowyer. I was simply amazed. This dropped my jaw more than anything I seen yesterday.

What happened after the caution didn't surprise me. I wasn't surprised when Kyle Busch basically dumped Mike. Pissed a bit, yeah. Surprised? No. Especially since Kyle got turned with Mike behind him at Daytona. No, what surprised me is no one wanted to hook up with Mike the rest of the way. And he fell straight to the back. He didn't have a partner. He was screwed! The old drafting would have had him drafting off of any car in sight, but you can't do that anymore. Its 2 cars together and 3 is a crowd. I personally think this fact sucks. I think Mike is capable of driving extremely well under either circumstance, but the 2 car circumstance means you need a teammate. The old drafting style, it didn't matter who it was....just draft!

I kind of watched with half interest after that. I was in the middle of a home project and kept looking back to catch what was going on. I think Mike did a wave around to get back on the lead lap but never caught a caution (figures) and then I seen he went to the pits. I thought it was a normal pit. Next thing I know...he's 3 laps down and I had no idea why.

I know you guys consider it charity, but the rules fall for all 43 drivers and not just one. The fact he got back within a lap down with about 20 to go still gave Mike a chance for a good finish. All we needed was 1 more caution quickly and he would have been back on the lead lap.

I do think he had a car capable of winning the race. I do think he was one of the best pushing cars out there. But you can't play with this configuration without a partner. I think Mike got slapped yesterday. Deserved or not and maybe it is deserved and in some cases it is. I think he deserved a bit better yesterday considering how strong his car truly was.

Call this spin or delusional or whatever. He deserved better than what he got. Oh yeah, he also dodged a wreck awesomely as well. Nothing embarrassing happened yesterday except a big old middle finger from about 40 other drivers.

I'm sure you like that quote wall.

Glad I could help.

Mike drove better than what he got. Just saying

“Respect the Clowns”

Since: Sep 10

hee hee hee

#4 Apr 19, 2011
Good post, gowaltrip.

“Let them hate, Drive More Mike”

Since: May 08

Waltrip fans! An Army of One!

#5 Apr 20, 2011
No comment wall?
ol wall

Springfield, OH

#6 Apr 20, 2011
gowaltrip wrote:
No comment wall?
Been kind of busy, since the week started.

Good report, with some pretty good observations. I am with you on the two-car drafting. After seeing two races, I have had quite enough of it. You didn't say too much about Bobby "10-4" Kennedy running him out of fuel! POS gets some pretty lame CC's, at times. I am not real sure if the other two, he employs are that much better than "10-4" Kennedy, especially Tryson. He can seem to take a pretty good car and not keep-up with the track and let Truex fall behind and get wrecked.

I wish JAPCAR would either ditch the R-plates, which they will never do or have them make the front and rear bracing out of balsa wood; then let them try to shove another car around the track.

I went to Daytona, back around 2002, when they still ran the old cars and the racing wasn't that bad. I would sure never drop that kind of money, again (plane tickets, rental car, motel & shuttles from Orlando) to watch these two-car-dances.

I still totally enjoy the two road courses, and the shorter tracks, over Dega, Indy or Daytona.

I just might have to attend KY this season, as it is really one of the closer tracks to me (Indy and MIS, also). What is nice about MIS, there are very reasonable motels within and hour drive of the track (in the $80-range on race week-end), in NW OH or around Toledo, also. They never seem to jack-up the rates, especially these past couple of seasons, with low-attendance.

Is POS running the 600 or will that conflict with LeMans? I know he is running KY, for sure.

Did you experience any of the "bad-weather" over the week-end? I see there was quite a bit of tornado-damage in the South, over the week-end.

Keep those reports a comin'!

10-4?
Dillinger

Miami, FL

#7 Apr 21, 2011
ol wall wrote:
Anybody hear anything from GoPOS? He usually stops by with one of his great......"race-reports ".....on just how well POS runs, during the race.
I hope he is not too embarrassed, that POS could only find guys like rookie, Andy Lally, to draft with, instead of his usual drafting partners like, "Dork", Juuuuuuuuuuuunior, Jimmy or Robby Gordan.
I know it is kind of difficult to find drafting partners, when you are running 4 laps off the pace and tend to introduce your drafting partners to the......wall, and cause the....."big-one"! LMAO!
Driving a Ferrari in the LeMans race? What do you want to bet that he plows that Ferrari into one of those walls, over in France? Does this prove that Cough....man has more $$$$$(I mean Lyra) than good-sense?
AC remembers how those...."hands".... start to shake, when he drives on a road course. LMAO!
We're ready for yesterday's report, GoPOS.
You must be very proud of how POS has been running, since his retirement and even those last couple of seasons before he announced.....retirement!
Waiting-For-It!
I agree with Go, I don't like this 2-car drafting system, either.
How much Kookaid would you like Nas and I to bring to the Tipsy party???
taint

United States

#8 Apr 21, 2011
Why would no one want to draft with the guy? Not even his own "team mates"/employees?
taint

United States

#9 Apr 21, 2011
I thought everything was right on "plan" for 2007.

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#10 Apr 21, 2011
Yeah...can't get a handle on this two-car thing either. As much as I dug seeing the old 21 in Victory Lane, I sorta thought this year's Daytona race kinda sucked. Didn't help that most of the good cars got wiped out early.

Good, honest post, GW. The way I saw it, it almost looked as if the other drivers-including his own, were giving Waltrip a message that his services were no longer needed or required. Fair or not, his peers gave him his walking papers. That was pretty obvious when I watched Truex charge right by the 15.

With all of his extra-curricular activities-GTE class road courses, comedy club thing etc-he really doesn't need to do this anymore. From an objective financial perspective, he should cash in that "five year plan", sell his share in the team and retire. Stay home with that grandbaby of his!

“Let them hate, Drive More Mike”

Since: May 08

Waltrip fans! An Army of One!

#11 Apr 21, 2011
opus99 wrote:
Yeah...can't get a handle on this two-car thing either. As much as I dug seeing the old 21 in Victory Lane, I sorta thought this year's Daytona race kinda sucked. Didn't help that most of the good cars got wiped out early.
Good, honest post, GW. The way I saw it, it almost looked as if the other drivers-including his own, were giving Waltrip a message that his services were no longer needed or required. Fair or not, his peers gave him his walking papers. That was pretty obvious when I watched Truex charge right by the 15.
With all of his extra-curricular activities-GTE class road courses, comedy club thing etc-he really doesn't need to do this anymore. From an objective financial perspective, he should cash in that "five year plan", sell his share in the team and retire. Stay home with that grandbaby of his!
I almost agree with this. Almost....

I would love to see rule changes to make the cars draft like they used to and back to the past style of drafting off of anybody. Then I would love to see Mike go at it again and to hell with any loyalty with his MWR cars. They've slapped him just about as much as the other 38 or so drivers out there.

I really think Mike drove fairly well on Sunday and was handcuffed by the package and the fact no one would call him a dancing partner. If your own drivers won't even help out....F'em!

I wouldn't care at this point if he sold his stake in the team and disappeared. Mike may never have been a talent and I understand all the hate and animosity towards him because he used to drive for DEI when results said to most people he didn't deserve it.

But I also think he's been a great ambassador to the sport, has helped lots of people when he could, turned the other cheek when he was wronged and tried to make the most out of whatever situation he was in.

I don't think he deserved to get disrespected THAT bad on Sunday as he did. I think Mike has been humbled enough over the past 6 years since he left DEI. He's had enough to make 10 drivers quit and has still managed to hang his name on a race team and show himself admirably when given the right opportunities. I still believe he could win a RP race, but not under this package.

I think if drivers wanted to send Mike a message and give a payback or two, they did it on Sunday. If I was Mike, I'd be upset. If he drove another RP race and got treated that way again, or the package rules don't change, I couldn't blame him for hanging it up for good.

BigEEE

Greensboro, NC

#12 Apr 21, 2011
GoWal,
It is obvious that you see POS as a saint and everyone has their opinion. I can respect that.

But most people see POS as the opposite of what you see or even want to believe in your mind.
That is the difference in realist and idealist and is a common trait of mankind.

POS in my mind is no different that a sleazy used car saleman or a present day politician. He tries to sale a make believe world with himself being the center of attention in it. He was schooled on this form of deception by his dumba@@ half brother because DW knows that it works with a lot of people and it therefore relates to money in their pockets.

It is much easier to hide this BS,or deceptive practice,if it is reasonably believable and that is why it worked so well with DW. In POS's case it is not even reasonably close to try and sell the idea that POS is even a halfway descent driver because he simple isn't.

But the same fairytale that Fishsticks bought into is being pushed on all sides due to ther fact that Faux King controls most media outlets and there is a relationship of the 4th kind going on between the Wallmouths.

You call him an ambassador of the sport and I call him a detriment to the sport. Going by the sinking popularity of our sport I will have to rest my case.

“Let them hate, Drive More Mike”

Since: May 08

Waltrip fans! An Army of One!

#13 Apr 21, 2011
He's only drove in like 6 races in the last 2 years. If the sport is sinking, it ain't his fault. You keep wanting to pin every declining stat on MW. Well, he ain't been driving! That was only his 2nd race this year. Gee, lets pin all the attendance and tv rating numbers on him even when he aint been in it!

I understand the animosity some people feel towards Mike and I've never denied it. I'll be the first to tell you when he sucked. If you wanna spin MW as being bad for the sport and hiding under poor results, can we say Jr has shook up Nascar with all his great achievements driving for the most money resourced and winning franchise in racing? Shouldn't he get the "Underachiever" tag like Mike got at DEI???? Hell, Mike got 4 wins at DEI, JR only has 1 at Hendrick Motorsports!?? Come on!

Don't call me blind when you're just as blind in the opposite direction.

If Mike made it this far by being a snake oil salesman, it obviously worked enough to keep him in it and keep going. Hell, if he hadn't been like that, he'd be another DCope out there. And don't give me the "he's just as accomplished" stuff either. Cope can't make it week to week in this sport. Mike has a real race team and real sponsors in this crippled economy. You're just being a hater dude. I done said Mike ain't drove very great in his career. At times it's been laughable. But I've been cheering him on since 1994 and even though he's had plenty of calamity over the years, he's also drove well when in the right situation. His days of being competitive are long gone and I get that. But dang dude. Jr. has been at Hendrick almost as long as Mike was at DEI now and has less to show for it. What kind of snake oil does he have? Oh yeah, he's little E.

Nascar's ratings have nothing to do with Mike. It simply just isn't as entertaining as it used to be and that's across the board. It's become a boring product and it's just as boring when Mike isn't there.
ol wall

Springfield, OH

#14 Apr 23, 2011
Hey GoPOS, I was reading a fan comment on a story over on Jayski, this morning and found this comment:

__________

I am finding it easier and easier to skip the truck races. Last night with Kyle Busch running and Darrell Waltrip in the booth, I chose sanity over racing and had a nice evening watching something I could enjoy. Itís been a long time since I watched a truck race, and I doubt if Iíll ever watch one again. The same is becoming true of the Nationwide series. Itís amazing that one driver [Gomer Kryle] and two Waltrips can do so much damage to the sport of racing.
__________

I guess BigE and some of the rest of us are not-alone in our opinions of POS, even though the topic of this comments was concerning last evening's Truck Race.

Wow...."It's amazing that one driver and two Waltrips can do so much damage to the sport of [JAPCAR] racing."

Why don't JAPCAR fans dig either of these two, Owenboro KY, clowns?

LMAO!

10-4!

“Let them hate, Drive More Mike”

Since: May 08

Waltrip fans! An Army of One!

#15 Apr 23, 2011
Those are the same people who would shoot a huge white load if Jr actually won and Dale Jarrett was calling babbling like a hillbilly all over the race. So I wouldn't put anything into their opinion. It's not like they got past 10th grade or anything.

They're already bored with the races and are just looking for fashionable hip excuses to say why. KBusch is winning all the races and they hate him, especially in Toyota's. And Waltrip's just have tons of haters already because their blinded by Earnhardt's nutsack. It's popular to hate Waltrips. But really, it's just an excuse to deflect the fact that they're really just bored with racing in general because their one tooth can't sink into the fact that Junior has only won one race in like the last 5 years. It's Nascar Redneck Racism at it's finest.

You know what I mean you old Ford loving, USA only, Roush fan???

10-4???
ol wall

Springfield, OH

#16 Apr 23, 2011
Hey GoPOS, you got me...."nailed"!

You know my very favorite year was 2007, for POS & Motormouth Motorsports; as, I was a Dale Jarrett-fan, but couldn't buy-into him going......JAPanese, especially with Motormouth Motorsports. Everything was a disaster for POS-Racing, with fuel-gate, missing races, Chopsticks Jarrett running out of top-35's, the Tipsy Sock-Walk, Buffy bailin', and crew chiefs going, like Rocket Fuel Hyder and Borland.

Let's you and I go back and reminisce a little to Atlanta's spring Cup-Lite show in 2007. I hope you remember it, as it was mid-March, after POS had missed several races, in Cup. He was trying to get some seat-time, since he was only running practice and two laps in Cup, that is, if he didn't spin and smack the wall on Lap 1 of qualifications. In Cup-Lite, he couldn't run in the (Wet) Dream Machine #99, as "Dork" was wheeling is somewhat successfully!

Remember now? He talked his way into that #32 Braun-Jap-ride, for the Atlanta Cup-Lite race.

It didn't take but a few laps and POS found the "wall" to his liking and wiped part of the side off that #32. They brought him in, pounded on it a little bit and back-out POS went. On lap #16 he hit the wall, once again, and it was........."JAP-scrap "........on this wall-bang! In 16 laps, POS had hit the wall..........twice and sent that #32 to the JAP-scrap-pile, at Braun Racing. I don't think they ever allowed POS behind the wheel of a Braun ToJo Mobile, ever, after that day! LMAO!

I knew you would remember that one and thanks for allowing me to reminisce, just a litte!

Weren't those such great-times?

10-4!
stain

Washington, DC

#17 Apr 24, 2011
taint wrote:
Why would no one want to draft with the guy? Not even his own "team mates"/employees?
The Waltrip homer would love to believe that the drivers either collectively or individually decided that for whatever reason that this was the time and place to send the least talented Waltrip boy a message by boycotting his dance ticket.

Faulty logic for several reasons. First the guy is just to irrelevant to the sport to waste the mental effort to contemplate.

Second for about 30 of those drivers given the roulette wheel that the RP races are they had to believe they had a legitimate chance to win the race. Although the 2 car draft reintroduces some technique and skill to the RP races its still more about how well you unload then how well you drive and adapt. These 30 drivers, if they believed Waltrip could help them win, despite what they may or may not think of him as a human and his exploitation of their sport and its icons, would most certainly seek to partner with the guy who worked for the guy who could see the draft.

The fact is these drivers, the vast the majority of the field including his own employees and alliances, felt he could not contribute to their success and therefore had no use for one of the greatest underachievers in the history of motor sport.

He was not part of a winning plan.

Secondarily I think most of these drivers recall that in Daytona, due to his incompetence, Waltrip single handidly took out or basically ruined the day of at least one car in every multi car race team including his own while the rookie he fired drove a masterful race and won the damn thing. Even if you don't consciously dismiss him, he's not high on your list of candidate dance partners.

Lastly I think you have to look at Waltrips situation. He is not racing for points, he is desperate to fulfill his own claims of being a masterful RP racer as sands in the hourglass of his racing "career" rapidly diminish. He has no long term stake in the season, literally for him if you are not first you are last, there is no value in a top 5 or top 10 (your owner is going to get the purse). In that last 1000 yards who do want pushing you? Someone with with a longer term stake in the game similar to yours, where finishing well holds some value? Or someone who can has to consider a win the only possible successful outcome of the days events, someone who in his desperation would risk your welfare and the welfare of most of the field in one final attempt to establish legitimacy; who if he could not win through skill and quality equipment would be more than willing to risk killing you because 10 years later he could celebrate your death with NYT best seller telling the tale of how your death distracted from the real story of his own greatness?

I suspect most drivers, including his own employees, wish waltrip would find more diversions and extracurricular activities that keep him as far away from NASCAR Sprint Cup racing as much as possible.
BigEEE

Greensboro, NC

#18 Apr 25, 2011
Great Post...stain

Spoken with the eloquence of a savy veteran of the sport.

Now I am not sure if Gowall can understand what you wrote because he seems to be hung up on judging Rednecks,a hate for Jr., and two ball white sauce.

That might explain his love for POS!

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