It's time to settle Mayfield vs. NASCAR

Aug 5, 2009 | Posted by: The New Twenty | Full story: www.nascar.com

His race team has been sold. His stepmother is suing him for slander. His temporary injunction has been overturned.

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Mary

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Aug 27, 2009
 
Denver Dan Mayfield wrote:
Mary, you have a good memory, and most drivers never come back from a head injury! Most people don't even remember Jeremy's concussion, but I do, and it was very, very scary. I hope he wins, and when he does, NASCAR will be out of a lot of money, but his reputation can never be brought back. I believe Jeremy! L8R. Denver Dan.
“Denver Dan,” I too hope that Jeremy wins this as well, for a couple of reasons. First, NASCAR needs to beef up it’s drug policy in cases of false positives, which I believe we have here. The so-called big dogs of NASCAR are just too stubborn to see the error of their ways. They think they’re always right, even though 9 times out of 10, they’re always wrong!... Second, I don’t think NASCAR needs another scenario like they had 3 months ago, especially since Mayfield is more known than Grubb since he’s been around longer. It will rock The NASCAR World even more, & I’m still concerned about both scenarios...
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Whoyakidding wrote:
Kevin tested positive the first time in Mar. 2004 and was suspended. His suspension was lifted in June, 2006 and he ran in 5 Nationwide events before his suspension again on Sept 11, 2006 for refusing to take a drug test. The agreement between Kevin and NASCAR that lead to his first suspension being lifted was that he agreed to frequent and unannounced drug testing and that any refusal was an automatic suspension. The day after Kevin was suspended the second time, he claimed to NASCAR that he did not remember his refusal to be tested but it was a situation that could not be proved and NASCAR kept the suspension in force. It's very unfortunate but Kevin and Jeremy aren't the only drivers that have been suspended. Shane Hmiel was re-instated twice only to be banded for life after a third failed drug test. For an ordinary person without any personal knowledge of an individual's situation to try to make a case for a driver's suicide for an incident in Sept. of 2006 on May 6 2009, is really reaching for it. Personally, I think there was a lot more things involved in his suicide than NASCAR's refusal to give him another drug test.
“Whoyakidding,” you also make some good points. Everything you’ve said about Grubb is accurate, although I do know that the day after the wreck, Grubb went to hospital with a bad headache & was diagnosed with a concussion. I saw an article that talks about this scenario from both our perspectives. Here it is:

http://www.frontstretch.com/jmeyer/5204/

I also know that Grubb & Mayfield aren’t the only ones to be suspended because of a drug test. In addition to Shane Hmiel, Tyler Walker & Aaron Fike have also been suspended for drug related issues. If I’m not mistaken, I believe Brian Clauson also got suspended, but my memory doesn’t recall that completely (I know there was a driver named Brian who got suspended, but I’m not sure if it was him or Brian Reffner, but I believe it was Clauson). Shane now races in USAC & has been successful there. I think Tyler races in another series (Not positive on that), & Aaron is helping out in a program called “Racing against Drugs.” I don’t know what happened to Brian afterward though...

Comparing the issues of all the drivers who have been suspended from drug use before & Mayfield now, I see it eerie that Mayfield’s scenario is too similar to Grubb’s, & considering what happened to Grubb soon after, I got concerned about that...

...The last comment you made got to me. You must know me very well! You said,“For an ordinary person without any personal knowledge of an individual’s situation to try and make a case for a driver’s suicide for an incident in Sept. of 2006 on May 6 2009 is really reaching for it.” Truth be told, I’ve done multiple searches getting as much info as I can to figure this out (& also because the results of the toxicology test weren’t released). Like you, I too think there was something else that might have caused Grubb’s suicide besides The NASCAR World. Since Ray Combs is 1 of my Game Show favorites & I figured out what happened to him between his last episode of “Family Feud” & his death (Also a suicide), I do believe the issues with The NASCAR World were a major part of what happened to Kevin, but not the only part. According to my search, the top answer I got was that Kevin fell into a severe depression... which is exactly what happened to Ray! On the other hand, there might be some things we’ll never figure out.

I just hope we don’t have to go through the same thing with Jeremy!...

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Aug 27, 2009
 
Whoyakidding wrote:
<quoted text>Here's you an answer, Jeremy Mayfield was abusing a prescription drug, Adderall, and came up hot on a piss test. Instead of doing the smart thing and taking NASCAR up on their rehab program, he went into denial and is losing everything he has over his own stupidity. NASCAR made the call and can not back down. It's going to come down to who has the bucks to out last the other. Good bye Jeremy.
I have been following JM's story, I had not heard that he failed a previous drug test AND refused rehab? They don't say that in all the recent articles or I have been reading the wrong articles! You are right, his stupidity is what killed his career. It's sad to see people choose drugs over their careers.

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Aug 27, 2009
 
Mary wrote:
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“Whoyakidding,” you also make some good points.
...The last comment you made got to me. You must know me very well! You said,“For an ordinary person without any personal knowledge of an individual’s situation to try and make a case for a driver’s suicide for an incident in Sept. of 2006 on May 6 2009 is really reaching for it.” Truth be told, I’ve done multiple searches getting as much info as I can to figure this out (& also because the results of the toxicology test weren’t released). Like you, I too think there was something else that might have caused Grubb’s suicide besides The NASCAR World. Since Ray Combs is 1 of my Game Show favorites & I figured out what happened to him between his last episode of “Family Feud” & his death (Also a suicide), I do believe the issues with The NASCAR World were a major part of what happened to Kevin, but not the only part. According to my search, the top answer I got was that Kevin fell into a severe depression... which is exactly what happened to Ray! On the other hand, there might be some things we’ll never figure out.
I just hope we don’t have to go through the same thing with Jeremy!...
Not only does this case seem like it mimics Grubb's case, but Jeremy's father committed suicide and JM has just lost his business and career. If this isn't enough to throw him into a major deression, then nothing will, but ultimitely it is Jeremy's decision to take his life or man up and go to rehab and start again. It does look like the psychological odds are stacked against him, but who knows. We can only hope.
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Ban NASCAR- Drugs and Drunks!!!!
Denver Dan Mayfield

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I still have my 1/32 Jeremy Mayfield KMart "Kid's Race Against Drugs" car! He might need it to show in his trial, which I am sure he will win! I haven't watched a race since he is not in it, and I haven't enjoyed a race since he was last competetive, which was before they gave all of the "good stuff" to KK!(FYI, my first "favorite" driver was Fireball Roberts, so I do go back aways, but I must have somone to "pull" for!) L8R. DD.

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Not only does this case seem like it mimics Grubb's case, but Jeremy's father committed suicide and JM has just lost his business and career. If this isn't enough to throw him into a major deression, then nothing will, but ultimitely it is Jeremy's decision to take his life or man up and go to rehab and start again. It does look like the psychological odds are stacked against him, but who knows. We can only hope.
His father's suicide would be enough to send him in to a tailspin. Why is it so hard for some to fathom that he might end up abusing drugs because of it? Especially if he had done them in the past. And that's just speculation.

Here's the thing, he had a crew member suspended for the same reason earlier this year.

And, if you want to know about how false positives are handled, look up the court documents. It's in there. The lab uses the way that every other lab that can do these tests right do. And it's because false positives were so common in the past, a procedure had to be developed to combat it.

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14_Patti_18 wrote:
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His father's suicide would be enough to send him in to a tailspin. Why is it so hard for some to fathom that he might end up abusing drugs because of it? Especially if he had done them in the past. And that's just speculation.
Here's the thing, he had a crew member suspended for the same reason earlier this year.
And, if you want to know about how false positives are handled, look up the court documents. It's in there. The lab uses the way that every other lab that can do these tests right do. And it's because false positives were so common in the past, a procedure had to be developed to combat it.
The first paragraph and the second sentence make sense to me, but I don't understand the last paragraph. I never asked about false positives. Maybe you mean't to address someone else? I agree with you about his father's suicide though, it's enough to send anyone into drug usage.
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Aug 29, 2009
 
It seems to me that if someone tested + for drugs and you knew a 2nd test was in the near future, would you stop, meth, pot,??? how long does it stay in your system??? Its going to be a long road, I think the upper crust ($$$$)at NASCAR, never forget anything that a driver has SAID or done... I can't stand to watch coverage or races anymore, it seems to me all they talk about and try to do is polish the bushes....OMG...Jeremy has always been my driver....WIW
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Aug 31, 2009
 
Mr Stewie wrote:
If Jeremy is telling the truth. Why would NASCAR go after him? What reason would they have? I am looking for answers.
what would you do if you was nascar and if there was a problem with your drug testing,you would fight like hell to win because you would have one hell of a lawsuit against you for the other that felled the test,so go mayfield bust that ass
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anyone who believes that nascar is being honest
and up front would also believe the sky is falling. they are greedy, they think they are the gods and will use money and harassment to destroy JM, if they have not already done so. may the forces stay with you JM. I BELIEVE IN YOU
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every nascar fan that i have talked to has the same oppinion as myself, and yes i have talked to many
Gale Cook

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the almighty nascar has went beyond my wildest
imagination to destroy JM. I commend JM for
fighting so hard and I believe in you JM.

I do believe, if I must say so myself, you may
just be the most popular driver in nascar right now. No comments please from JR fans please.

nascar will not back down at this point. they are a pack of liars and thieves and will continue to go to any means to destroy me.
KEEP FIGHTING JM
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Gale Cook wrote:
the almighty nascar has went beyond my wildest
imagination to destroy JM. I commend JM for
fighting so hard and I believe in you JM.
I do believe, if I must say so myself, you may
just be the most popular driver in nascar right now. No comments please from JR fans please.
nascar will not back down at this point. they are a pack of liars and thieves and will continue to go to any means to destroy me.
KEEP FIGHTING JM
How old are you? You write like a pre-teenager does and you are babbling on and on with no evidence to back up your emotions. This is a public forum. We all have the right to post our opinions whether we are jr fans or not!

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Gale Cook wrote:
the almighty nascar has went beyond my wildest
imagination to destroy JM. I commend JM for
fighting so hard and I believe in you JM.
I do believe, if I must say so myself, you may
just be the most popular driver in nascar right now. No comments please from JR fans please.
nascar will not back down at this point. they are a pack of liars and thieves and will continue to go to any means to destroy me.
KEEP FIGHTING JM
I am a Jr fan and will comment.J Mayfield will not be racing until he goes to rehab. Many
people have been caught using drugs and can you show me one that got back on the track without rehab.Most all them have never returned and if they did they never amounted to anything..Some even busted again. They hit 3 last week for drugs and it looks like they are going to keep after it.
Gale Cook

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Sep 4, 2009
 
i expected a jr fan to come back with a reply.
jr got his fame from his his father. wheres the
victory?
besides this is about JM 's crusifiction not jr. so
pick a winner.
Gale Cook

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Sep 4, 2009
 
well i'm more then likely twice your age.. do you read the paper, need i explain more? the facts are out there, don't comment unless you've kept up on the paper and other facts. get off the jr thing already. this is about jm. sorry to bring jr up at such a troubled time for jm..excuse me please. but jr will never be his father or come close so eat it already
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Sep 4, 2009
 
jm is brave and a fighter. we get calls from all tracks to renew and tickets, but we are bored, because jimmy johnson has to break all the records. "sick of jimmy johnson and cc already". Need new blood and i
can assure you that it want be jr.

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Sep 5, 2009
 
Gale Cook wrote:
i expected a jr fan to come back with a reply.
jr got his fame from his his father. wheres the
victory?
besides this is about JM 's crusifiction not jr. so
pick a winner.
Your the one who said no comments from Jr fan's/ Don't blame me your the one who brought up Jr's name...

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Gale Cook wrote:
well i'm more then likely twice your age.. do you read the paper, need i explain more? the facts are out there, don't comment unless you've kept up on the paper and other facts. get off the jr thing already. this is about jm. sorry to bring jr up at such a troubled time for jm..excuse me please. but jr will never be his father or come close so eat it already
I do read the paper and have attended 7 races this year. You get more news at the track than any paper. Like I said your the one who stated no comments from Jr fans. Jr don't want to be his father..I doubt if Mayfield want's to be his father either.

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