Jimmie Johnson: NASCAR Rigging the Race is Crazy

Jun 22, 2010 Full story: Bleacher Report 56

In the past 24 hours, the Internet has been lighting up with accusations that Sunday's race at Sonoma was a fixed affair.

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“How We Roll”

Since: Nov 08

Area 51, Nevada

#42 Jul 6, 2010
menards wrote:
I answered that already. Go back and re-read!
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If you say you did, then it's done. No, I am not going hunting for your comment either.
LaTwinda

Brooksville, FL

#43 Jul 7, 2010
I'd like to sit on Jimmie's face and rip a few loud farts.

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Chey

Elko, NV

#44 Jul 8, 2010
This speculation has run rampant every where.....how did it start.....because some fans are very unhappy their driver havent done as well as they would like......and some times the "news agentcies" want to stir the pot.......the question I have posted before, and its never been answered is: "IF" the races are fixed......why are the other drivers, owners and sponsors standing by and letting it happen, Owners, Drivers, pit crews,and most importantly Sponsors are loosin paychecks,gear sales,on down the line.....If the races were fixed.....there would be a "park it" strike, like never seen before!
Wang

Raleigh, NC

#45 Jul 8, 2010
Chey wrote:
This speculation has run rampant every where.....how did it start.....because some fans are very unhappy their driver havent done as well as they would like......and some times the "news agentcies" want to stir the pot.......the question I have posted before, and its never been answered is: "IF" the races are fixed......why are the other drivers, owners and sponsors standing by and letting it happen, Owners, Drivers, pit crews,and most importantly Sponsors are loosin paychecks,gear sales,on down the line.....If the races were fixed.....there would be a "park it" strike, like never seen before!
NASCAL laces ale fixed. Maybe youl pool use of the Engrish ranguage and glammel skirrs can be fixed as easiry.
Chey

Elko, NV

#46 Jul 8, 2010
HUH?

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#47 Jul 8, 2010
I'll gladly answer Chey! Actually ill answer your question with a question. Why are wrestlers trying to get into the WWE when they know its fake and the matches are scripted?

Do you still need a hint? MONEY! Look at the race winnings. Even the teams that run around in last and barely make races pull in 3-4 million a year. Thats not a bad paycheck condsidering the start and parkers put literally no effort into their programs. Think about it, 1/2 the revune but 1/4 of the overhead. Why would you put effort into your program when you know your never going to win? If you've been around awhile, you know what happened during the last "park it" strike. The drivers/owners arent stupid enough to try that again.

And again, NA$CAR is not scripted like the WWE is. It would be impossible to accomplish that. NA$CAR will massage the outcome of the race through the use of make-up-as-you-go rules and mystery cautions and penalties. What you get is a biased governing body.
Chey wrote:
I have posted before, and its never been answered is: "IF" the races are fixed......why are the other drivers, owners and sponsors standing by and letting it happen, Owners, Drivers, pit crews,and most importantly Sponsors are loosin paychecks,gear sales,on down the line.....If the races were fixed.....there would be a "park it" strike, like never seen before!
Chey

Elko, NV

#48 Jul 8, 2010
I read and reread your answer.......and this doesnt explain why Smoke, JR, Harvick, Hamlin, Logano, the Busch brothers, and their owners,etc. would stand for the races to be rigged,how do they profit from this so called practice? How do their sponsors profit,most of all? Money,is an incentive but is not the whole answer, the drivers have "the Pride" of the win at stake,they enter to win if only for for that......I cant see 42 teams standing by and not wanting to reap the rewards! What is Nascar going to do if they do stand up, barr them from the races.....LOL.....I dont think so! You got that quote from one of my post on a Nascar thread....so I know that you know how badly other teams want to win......Owners dont put out and risk 250,000 dollar cars each week only to get wrecked or beat!
The Fat and the Furious

Sterling Heights, MI

#49 Jul 8, 2010
The races aren't fixed. Does Nascar do some things to effect the outcome? Sure they do! Just as the NBA will call fouls against Lebron or Kobe that never really happened or let them palm the ball and take 4 steps without the ball ever hitting the floor. What Nascar does is not different than what all the big money making sports organizations do. They give the drivers and teams with the name and marketability some leeway that the smaller guys don't get. This stuff even happens in college sports. If anyone thinks any differently, than they either don't know sports very well or they're very naive.

This is nothing new to Nascar either. I love how people complain today as if this hasn't been going on since Nascar's inception. Do you people really think Petty and Dale Sr. and many others didn't get those same advantages that the big names are given today. It's funny to me how people criticize Brain France for this and either don't know or are to ignorant to accept that both Bill's did the same thing. Don't get me wrong, I think Brian deserves some criticism, but not for conducting business as usual in Nascar.

There's nothing unusual going on in Nascar as far as how they police and run it. This stuff happens at those local tracks all these supposed expert fans like to talk about so much around here. Once again, if you don't believe that, you're either to ignorant to accept it or don't know stock car racing enough to have seen it time and again.

I have criticisms of Nascar, but I always have and always will. They will never put a product out there that will make me/you/anyone completely happy, just like they didn't 20/30/40 years ago. Either accept that or move on, but don't pretend like things have changed when it comes to favoritism of certain drivers/teams or that they haven't always tried to give a little advantage to the people who bring in the fans and money. To do so, just shows how little you understand this sport or any other multimillion dollar sports organization.
Wang

Raleigh, NC

#50 Jul 8, 2010
The Fat and the Furious wrote:
The races aren't fixed.
Tomato tomato.
Chey

Elko, NV

#51 Jul 8, 2010
Ok.....I my post didnt get posted.....so I will believe that a "fart" post is more important than some ones who is seeking answers and understanding!
Back Seat Driver

Lincolnton, NC

#52 Jul 8, 2010
I understand nascar is selling less tickets! Rednecks are short on funds, maybe thay will quit having that redneck shit!!!!!!
all the latest

Brooksville, FL

#53 Jul 8, 2010
Back Seat Driver wrote:
I understand nascar is selling less tickets! Rednecks are short on funds, maybe thay will quit having that redneck shit!!!!!!
The rednecks don't have any beer money so they sneak some good "shine" in the stands to watch NASCAR.
peggy joseph

Fresno, CA

#54 Jul 8, 2010
Perception is reality. The debris cautions of yesterday have manifested in to fixed events today. I remember being in a sports bar years ago where there was a pool on when the yellow would be shown in the last 30 laps. Most the people in the pool where ball and stick fans laughing at NASCAR.

Sadly NASCAR has done little to change the perception of fixed races.

“How We Roll”

Since: Nov 08

Area 51, Nevada

#55 Jul 8, 2010
menards wrote:
And again, NA$CAR is not scripted like the WWE is. It would be impossible to accomplish that. NA$CAR will massage the outcome of the race through the use of make-up-as-you-go rules and mystery cautions and penalties. What you get is a biased governing body.
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Nicely put... see I completely feel that explanation. But say it's 'fixed' or 'rigged' and I'll disagree. Like Wang says, tomato tomato, but I'm just OCD about details and accuracy.'make-up-as-you-go' would have to be 'made-up-and-planned' for rigged or fixed are accurate because they are 'past-tense'.
The Fat and the Furious wrote:
They will never put a product out there that will make me/you/anyone completely happy, just like they didn't 20/30/40 years ago.
I'm actually perfectly happy, in fact almost in a blissful state when I get my fix. I am THAT much of a NASCAR fan. I don't know if ya'll would call that naive or ignorant, but I don't really care because I tend to agree with few people as they rarely agree with me. But I am always quite accepting and tolerant, thus usually thoroughly pleased with the 'product' I view and discuss. Guess I'd rather seem dumb and be happy, than accept your reality and become unhappy or 'hater' towards it.

HOWEVER, and I love that I can be this flexible - if its said it can't be done, I'd respond that it makes for a great challenge, and if you CAN predict a future using so many details and stats, I think I'd try it just to see. lol

“How We Roll”

Since: Nov 08

Area 51, Nevada

#56 Jul 8, 2010
Oh and at least they're removing a lot of human equation with having SO many eyes watching the things that take place, and using the sensors for pit lane speed and position scoring on the track.

Oh, almost forgot: Finally seen a recording of the Prelude race where Johnson dominated. Kinda gotta say... he can do that. On the asphalt, short track,, speedway, road course, and dirt... don't tell me the boy can't drive because whether or not the car is equal, it still takes a darn good driver to handle a car capable of outrunning the pack. Now we gotta see if 'Poppa J' still makes it look easy thru 2010.
The Fat and the Furious

United States

#57 Jul 8, 2010
alpinedigital wrote:
Oh and at least they're removing a lot of human equation with having SO many eyes watching the things that take place, and using the sensors for pit lane speed and position scoring on the track.
Oh, almost forgot: Finally seen a recording of the Prelude race where Johnson dominated. Kinda gotta say... he can do that. On the asphalt, short track,, speedway, road course, and dirt... don't tell me the boy can't drive because whether or not the car is equal, it still takes a darn good driver to handle a car capable of outrunning the pack. Now we gotta see if 'Poppa J' still makes it look easy thru 2010.
I wasn't to surprised by the Prelude. Jimmie cut his teeth racing on dirt and was extremely talented doing so. Granted it was a different kind of dirt racing and some adjustments needed to be made, but to a certain degree, dirt racing is dirt racing. Come to think of it, I don't think I'd be surprised to see him do well in anything he races. The guy has proven he's got talent. He's lacking in experience in the forms of racing a lot of Nascar drivers grew up on, but he's certainly not lacking in the ability department. That's why he's had success racing motorcycles, off-road and now Nascar. Basically, what I'm saying is the guy's had success in every form of racing he's ever been a part of, despite what some of the people watching Nascar want to believe. Of course, I'm sure they'll all just claim he's been lucky over 30 years and that every racing body has just given him success.

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