Response under pressure may determine champion

Oct 3, 2010 Full story: Roanoke Times 35

Tony Stewart stands by his car during practice for the Price Chopper 400 presented by Kraft Foods auto race at Kansas Speedway Friday.

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Bornonthebyu2

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#22 Oct 5, 2010
Smokeaholic wrote:
<quoted text>If he wins a fifth you can put a fork in Nascar.You think you saw empty seats this year,just wait.
Why, Is Nascar fixed?

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#23 Oct 5, 2010
Under Pressure
Pressing down on me
Pressing down on you
Don't let us fall...
Queen
The Fat and the Furious

Brighton, MI

#24 Oct 5, 2010
ruttrosmokesmojo wrote:
<quoted text>Fat my pumkin.... you are entitled to your opinion but just like the Frances handing jimmie championships and thinking no one will notice he has no talent..doesn't make him a champion ....and it does not make you right.. but you can cling to your opinion and thought that he is the man ...Just do not be surprise when few share your opinion on Jimmies greatness or his being a "champion". We true race fans not only no better and are leaving the sport in droves. Fact the majority are watching from home..not worth going to track.
You're entitled to make yourself look as foolish as you choose. NO skin off my nose. If making sh** up is what gets you off, than by all means, continue. I'm not the one looking like a jealous, ignorant fool, just the one pointing out the ignorance.

I will indeed cling to my thoughts, especially since they are the correct ones. And, despite what you seem to think, a hell of a lot more than a few share those facts (or what fools call, opinions, about Jimmie.) You little minority of true race whiners seem to think that your in a much larger group than you actually are. Let me assure you, you and your little cohorts are far from being able to kill off Nascar. There are some others who don't share your ignorance, but still have other reasons for being a little disenchanted with Nascar. Unlike you people, who make fools of yourselves on here daily, Jimmie (the best out there, as you and your little pretend wannabe race fans know) is far from going to be the reason if they chose to leave Nascar.

For your info also. T.V. has always brought in more fans. I would think most logical, intelligent people would already know that, but apparently there's no end to your inability to see what's obvious. Millions have always watched on T.V. Only a 100+ can actually watch from the track. Also, quit trying to make things more than they are. Fans are far from leaving in droves. Maybe some of you true race fans should get out there and realize plenty of people still show up at the track. Is attendance down some? Sure it is, but far from what you delusional types seem to believe. As I've mentioned before, the sooner your type is away from Nascar the better. You fake wannabe fans are just those who came along when Nascar started getting popular, so your loss will not be a sad one. Because, anyone who knows and understands racing could never agree with the garbage you people spout. That would take a complete lack of knowledge about how Nascar works or it's history. Or, I suppose some type of psychosis.

We'll see you around in these forums next year. That tells me how serious you people are about anything you say. Just like we saw you around last year saying the same things, making the same promises to quit watching. Hence my broken record comments. Maybe not the best analogy, since some records can be valuable and the opinions of a bunch of people with zero knowledge or realism has little value, but an analogy that some people can relate to nonetheless.

Form now on, I think we'll call your little crowd the .45's. Always spinning, but not producing a very high quality sound.
ruttrosmokesmojo

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#25 Oct 5, 2010
The Fat and the Furious wrote:
<quoted text>You're entitled to make yourself look as foolish as you choose. NO skin off my nose. If making sh** up is what gets you off, than by all means, continue. I'm not the one looking like a jealous, ignorant fool, just the one pointing out the ignorance.
I will indeed cling to my thoughts, especially since they are the correct ones. And, despite what you seem to think, a hell of a lot more than a few share those facts (or what fools call, opinions, about Jimmie.) You little minority of true race whiners seem to think that your in a much larger group than you actually are. Let me assure you, you and your little cohorts are far from being able to kill off Nascar. There are some others who don't share your ignorance, but still have other reasons for being a little disenchanted with Nascar. Unlike you people, who make fools of yourselves on here daily, Jimmie (the best out there, as you and your little pretend wannabe race fans know) is far from going to be the reason if they chose to leave Nascar.
For your info also. T.V. has always brought in more fans. I would think most logical, intelligent people would already know that, but apparently there's no end to your inability to see what's obvious. Millions have always watched on T.V. Only a 100+ can actually watch from the track. Also, quit trying to make things more than they are. Fans are far from leaving in droves. Maybe some of you true race fans should get out there and realize plenty of people still show up at the track. Is attendance down some? Sure it is, but far from what you delusional types seem to believe. As I've mentioned before, the sooner your type is away from Nascar the better. You fake wannabe fans are just those who came along when Nascar started getting popular, so your loss will not be a sad one. Because, anyone who knows and understands racing could never agree with the garbage you people spout. That would take a complete lack of knowledge about how Nascar works or it's history. Or, I suppose some type of psychosis.
We'll see you around in these forums next year. That tells me how serious you people are about anything you say. Just like we saw you around last year saying the same things, making the same promises to quit watching. Hence my broken record comments. Maybe not the best analogy, since some records can be valuable and the opinions of a bunch of people with zero knowledge or realism has little value, but an analogy that some people can relate to nonetheless.
Form now on, I think we'll call your little crowd the .45's. Always spinning, but not producing a very high quality sound.
lol fat tell us how you really feel. You can type till the cows come home.. The frances handing jimmie the championship every year till hell freezes over..it will not make him a champion. People see right thru that and the fact you give yourself a coronary defending him proves the point. if he had talent and the championships were due to his driving there would be a bevy defending him in here and more importantly his own forum....they are all MIA...but hold on to your opinion no matter how wrong you are. Proofs right there in the stands and on the streets. Public opinion does not lie
ruttrosmokesmojo

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#26 Oct 5, 2010
Bornonthebyu2 wrote:
<quoted text>Why, Is Nascar fixed?
depends on who you talk to...lol many think the rules do favor certain people and are not fairly or unilatterally enforced.
The Fat and the Furious

Brighton, MI

#27 Oct 6, 2010
ruttrosmokesmojo wrote:
<quoted text>
lol fat tell us how you really feel. You can type till the cows come home.. The frances handing jimmie the championship every year till hell freezes over..it will not make him a champion. People see right thru that and the fact you give yourself a coronary defending him proves the point. if he had talent and the championships were due to his driving there would be a bevy defending him in here and more importantly his own forum....they are all MIA...but hold on to your opinion no matter how wrong you are. Proofs right there in the stands and on the streets. Public opinion does not lie
Please! Do you really think trying to act like your calm and I'm in some kind of rage changes anything. I simply pointed out (as I have many times in response to your post and everyone on the same level as you ___) how every single dense statement you make is wrong. As always, you come back with nothing. You people don't really fool anyone but yourselves. I guess if that's your way of getting attention, than go for it. We know I make all of you look foolish on a regular basis and more importantly you know it. You guys always try and repost for a little while, but after I've torn you down enough, you all give up the fight. There's a reason for that obviously. You know your wrong. Now, you just need to learn to accept that you've been bested a little earlier and you won't look quite so ignorant. Ignorant still, just not quite as much.

Another little tidbit for you. Jimmie is far from the best in a sport not being popular with those outside his fan base. Ask someone from Boston if they like the Yankees and you'll see a little of what I'm talking about. Once again, I'd expect that to be common knowledge for most, but you guys like to play that little, "we're dumb" game. You seem to think popularity = greatness. If that's the case, I guess you should all become Jr. fans. Wait, you all once were, but now you pretend to be real, long-term race fans. We all know what really brought you to the sport. How else could you be so clueless? But hey! I'm and optimist. I like to believe people can't really be that lacking in basic intelligence, so give you guys the benefit of the doubt. Jealousy and ignorance fuels you. You can't help that your still learning. Once you've been around the sport long enough, you'll come to your senses.

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#28 Oct 6, 2010
^ I wouldn't hold my breath on her having common sense.
Carolyn

Erie, PA

#29 Oct 6, 2010
The Fat and the Furious wrote:
<quoted text>Please! Do you really think trying to act like your calm and I'm in some kind of rage changes anything. I simply pointed out (as I have many times in response to your post and everyone on the same level as you ___) how every single dense statement you make is wrong. As always, you come back with nothing. You people don't really fool anyone but yourselves. I guess if that's your way of getting attention, than go for it. We know I make all of you look foolish on a regular basis and more importantly you know it. You guys always try and repost for a little while, but after I've torn you down enough, you all give up the fight. There's a reason for that obviously. You know your wrong. Now, you just need to learn to accept that you've been bested a little earlier and you won't look quite so ignorant. Ignorant still, just not quite as much.
Another little tidbit for you. Jimmie is far from the best in a sport not being popular with those outside his fan base. Ask someone from Boston if they like the Yankees and you'll see a little of what I'm talking about. Once again, I'd expect that to be common knowledge for most, but you guys like to play that little, "we're dumb" game. You seem to think popularity = greatness. If that's the case, I guess you should all become Jr. fans. Wait, you all once were, but now you pretend to be real, long-term race fans. We all know what really brought you to the sport. How else could you be so clueless? But hey! I'm and optimist. I like to believe people can't really be that lacking in basic intelligence, so give you guys the benefit of the doubt. Jealousy and ignorance fuels you. You can't help that your still learning. Once you've been around the sport long enough, you'll come to your senses.
your calm - you're calm
your wrong - you're wrong
your still - you're still
Talk about dumb.
ruttrosmokesmojo

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#30 Oct 6, 2010
Carolyn wrote:
<quoted text>
your calm - you're calm
your wrong - you're wrong
your still - you're still
Talk about dumb.
lol carolyn....yes he is still wrongand no he is not calm...anything but. but it is funny.
ruttrosmokesmojo

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#31 Oct 6, 2010
The Fat and the Furious wrote:
<quoted text>Please! Do you really think trying to act like your calm and I'm in some kind of rage changes anything. I simply pointed out (as I have many times in response to your post and everyone on the same level as you ___) how every single dense statement you make is wrong. As always, you come back with nothing. You people don't really fool anyone but yourselves. I guess if that's your way of getting attention, than go for it. We know I make all of you look foolish on a regular basis and more importantly you know it. You guys always try and repost for a little while, but after I've torn you down enough, you all give up the fight. There's a reason for that obviously. You know your wrong. Now, you just need to learn to accept that you've been bested a little earlier and you won't look quite so ignorant. Ignorant still, just not quite as much.
Another little tidbit for you. Jimmie is far from the best in a sport not being popular with those outside his fan base. Ask someone from Boston if they like the Yankees and you'll see a little of what I'm talking about. Once again, I'd expect that to be common knowledge for most, but you guys like to play that little, "we're dumb" game. You seem to think popularity = greatness. If that's the case, I guess you should all become Jr. fans. Wait, you all once were, but now you pretend to be real, long-term race fans. We all know what really brought you to the sport. How else could you be so clueless? But hey! I'm and optimist. I like to believe people can't really be that lacking in basic intelligence, so give you guys the benefit of the doubt. Jealousy and ignorance fuels you. You can't help that your still learning. Once you've been around the sport long enough, you'll come to your senses.
You can preach on the pulpit all you want ...it still does not make him a champ! i have been around the sport for more than 30 years. Honestly you can put me down all you want...REAL racers and REAL race fans and the guys who turn a wrench know what makes a REAL champ .... Are you by chance related to the France's because it would explain alot? Living in the same bottle? Because you need some help..JMO
ruttrosmokesmojo

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#32 Oct 6, 2010
Oh and by the way I see Yankee merchandise, Saints merchandise,Laker merchandise,Blazer merchandise, Oregon and Oregon State merchandise all over the place ..I live in Oregon...and I see all kinds of nascar stuff as well.... The only 48 merchandise I see is The scruffy guy who walks to McDonalds for his morning cup of coffee and he has 48 pj pants and dirty t-shirt.He walks by every morning past the bus stop I wait at on my way to work. You do not live in Oregon by chance?
The Fat and the Furious

Waterford, MI

#33 Oct 8, 2010
ruttrosmokesmojo wrote:
Oh and by the way I see Yankee merchandise, Saints merchandise,Laker merchandise,Blazer merchandise, Oregon and Oregon State merchandise all over the place ..I live in Oregon...and I see all kinds of nascar stuff as well.... The only 48 merchandise I see is The scruffy guy who walks to McDonalds for his morning cup of coffee and he has 48 pj pants and dirty t-shirt.He walks by every morning past the bus stop I wait at on my way to work. You do not live in Oregon by chance?
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Are you saying the entire state of Oregon is as ignorant, biased and delusional as you? If that is indeed the case, than I must admit that I would have no desire to live there. I prefer to be where people have some modicum of intelligence and the brain power to not make themselves look foolish.

You can certainly go on this path of conspiracy theory and denying what's so obvious that Stevie Wonder can see it, that's your right I suppose. Here in Michigan, we tend to lock people up in institutions who have these traits. You know, a complete lacking in ability to deal with reality, so they cope with life by living in a fantasy realm, with no actual basis in the real world.

Was that scruffy guy thing supposed to be your sad attempt at an insult? I'm not insulted by your very secluded life in any way. Like I've mentioned to you before, look up some sales numbers and you'll find that Jimmie sells plenty of merchandise. He remains in the top 3/4 in merchandise sales, which, once again, makes yet another of your made up theories ridiculous and redundant. Despite that though, as I've mentioned many times before, I could care less if he had another single fan. If you choose to root for who you believe is popular in your mind, than feel free. Popularity has never been a criteria for me though. I support who I like and it wouldn't matter if I was that person/teams only fan. As I mentioned, Jr. has a lot of fans, but that doesn't make me want to root for him. Kind of funny also, I remember when Tony didn't have quite the fan base that he has now, yet every one of his current fans claim they always rooted for him. Kind of seems a little suspect, doesn't it? I guess those would be some of those true race fans you keep speaking of. The ones who seem to go with the flavor of the day and who's opinions seem to reflect whatever is popular at the time. Whether that be, supporting Tony or bashing Jimmie or hating Nascar. Kind of makes intelligent people see between the lines of what people claim and what the real motivations are.

Anyway, you keep on your path and I'll keep on mine. Your path seems to hate the sport you watch and mine gives me a lot of enjoyment. I don't have to deal in always being hateful and dissatisfied, if I did, I certainly wouldn't hang around and continue on the course. I've seen people come and go from Nascar over these many decades, but the complaining and whining (despite what some people pretend to believe) has never changed. You people aren't original in what your doing or saying. You're just the current crop. You'll come and go and be replaced and the sport will go on. Just like I don't need to be the only fan of a person/team, I also don't need to have Nascar be 100 X the size it was way back when, so a loss of some fans affects me in no way. I'm just fine with 4/5ths of you all going away. It won't lessen anything for me. The sport started small and I have no problem with it being small again. That's what true race fans are like. We don't need T.V. deals and sold out 150k seat stadiums to enjoy the sport. So, you people who want to keep calling yourself true fans, but denying everyone else is because they don't like who you like, feel free to leave at any time. I'll keep my standards on what a true fan is and it will very unlikely include you.

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#34 Oct 8, 2010
The Fat and the Furious wrote:
<quoted text>I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Are you saying the entire state of Oregon is as ignorant, biased and delusional as you? If that is indeed the case, than I must admit that I would have no desire to live there. I prefer to be where people have some modicum of intelligence and the brain power to not make themselves look foolish.
You can certainly go on this path of conspiracy theory and denying what's so obvious that Stevie Wonder can see it, that's your right I suppose. Here in Michigan, we tend to lock people up in institutions who have these traits. You know, a complete lacking in ability to deal with reality, so they cope with life by living in a fantasy realm, with no actual basis in the real world.
Was that scruffy guy thing supposed to be your sad attempt at an insult? I'm not insulted by your very secluded life in any way. Like I've mentioned to you before, look up some sales numbers and you'll find that Jimmie sells plenty of merchandise. He remains in the top 3/4 in merchandise sales, which, once again, makes yet another of your made up theories ridiculous and redundant. Despite that though, as I've mentioned many times before, I could care less if he had another single fan. If you choose to root for who you believe is popular in your mind, than feel free. Popularity has never been a criteria for me though. I support who I like and it wouldn't matter if I was that person/teams only fan. As I mentioned, Jr. has a lot of fans, but that doesn't make me want to root for him. Kind of funny also, I remember when Tony didn't have quite the fan base that he has now, yet every one of his current fans claim they always rooted for him. Kind of seems a little suspect, doesn't it? I guess those would be some of those true race fans you keep speaking of. The ones who seem to go with the flavor of the day and who's opinions seem to reflect whatever is popular at the time. Whether that be, supporting Tony or bashing Jimmie or hating Nascar. Kind of makes intelligent people see between the lines of what people claim and what the real motivations are.
Anyway, you keep on your path and I'll keep on mine. Your path seems to hate the sport you watch and mine gives me a lot of enjoyment. I don't have to deal in always being hateful and dissatisfied, if I did, I certainly wouldn't hang around and continue on the course. I've seen people come and go from Nascar over these many decades, but the complaining and whining (despite what some people pretend to believe) has never changed. You people aren't original in what your doing or saying. You're just the current crop. You'll come and go and be replaced and the sport will go on. Just like I don't need to be the only fan of a person/team, I also don't need to have Nascar be 100 X the size it was way back when, so a loss of some fans affects me in no way. I'm just fine with 4/5ths of you all going away. It won't lessen anything for me. The sport started small and I have no problem with it being small again. That's what true race fans are like. We don't need T.V. deals and sold out 150k seat stadiums to enjoy the sport. So, you people who want to keep calling yourself true fans, but denying everyone else is because they don't like who you like, feel free to leave at any time. I'll keep my standards on what a true fan is and it will very unlikely include you.
LOL Can't say I disagree with this.
polla

Boston, MA

#35 Oct 8, 2010
Jimmie Johnsons team cheats and everybody knows NASCAR favors Hendrick and lets them get away with more then any other team.

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#36 Oct 10, 2010
Well the pressures on lets see what happens.

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