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Just Asking Is All...| Is Jimmie Johnson Good for NASCAR?

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Is Jimmie Johnson Good for NASCAR? Is Jimmie Johnson good for NASCAR? OK, let me rephrase that.

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Since: Dec 06

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#43 Oct 27, 2009
Its easy man, pick up the remote control and switch the channel. Join the other millions of ex-fans that no longer tune in to this dying spectacle. TV ratings are down, attendance is down, they need start and parkers to give the allusion of a full field at races. Nascar doesnt think everyone is stupid, just the fans that are left.
KY Fan wrote:
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Nascar allows...Jimmie and Chad and Hendriks to CHEAT so they can get press..and think..think ..that others will spend money to watch CHEATERS. Does nascar think everyone is stupid?? Even Denny said/knew that nascar was giving JJ another chance at the restart in Martinsville..to WIN BY CHEATING.
and JJ has the audacity to compare himself with Tiger woods???!!!
Please.

“How We Roll”

Since: Nov 08

Area 51, Nevada

#45 Oct 27, 2009
menards wrote:
Its easy man, pick up the remote control and switch the channel. Join the other millions of ex-fans that no longer tune in to this dying spectacle. TV ratings are down, attendance is down, they need start and parkers to give the allusion of a full field at races. Nascar doesnt think everyone is stupid, just the fans that are left.
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Well what about the ones who're wasting time crying about it on forums?

I used to like football and basketball but I'm sick of hearing whistles and seeing flags every time somebody gets some good action going. So I simply don't watch. Don't need to complain on forums and hope for a sympathy hug, just need to find something better to occupy my time. And whining on a forum isn't suitable for me. LOL
Lurkin jj 48

United States

#46 Oct 27, 2009
If you quit being a nascar fan..menards then why are you in a nascar chat room talking nascar with other nascar fans...I think the problem is that everyone wants an explanation for why jimmie wins so much..he cheats...chad cheats...nascar is bought off... well untill one of those is proven true or untill you come up with how he cheats...what does he do... what is he getting away with that nobody can call him out on or believe me they would. Has anybody noticed that the fuel that drives jimmie is that his whole career he has been hated on one way or the other..so throw gasoline on the fire and watch him burn....untill then good look ex-nascar fans who are more concerened about bashing people then rooting for your driver to get better...but you better start soon because they have a long way to go to catch the 48 team.......hate on 40-h8ters

Since: Dec 06

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#47 Oct 27, 2009
I quit these forums as well. Along with all the legions of fans that left the sport many also left the boards. I mean just look at the conversations that are going on in the threads.... There used to be decent racing discussions.....
Lurkin jj 48 wrote:
If you quit being a nascar fan..menards then why are you in a nascar chat room talking nascar with other nascar fans...I think the problem is that everyone wants an explanation for why jimmie wins so much..he cheats...chad cheats...nascar is bought off... well untill one of those is proven true or untill you come up with how he cheats...what does he do... what is he getting away with that nobody can call him out on or believe me they would. Has anybody noticed that the fuel that drives jimmie is that his whole career he has been hated on one way or the other..so throw gasoline on the fire and watch him burn....untill then good look ex-nascar fans who are more concerened about bashing people then rooting for your driver to get better...but you better start soon because they have a long way to go to catch the 48 team.......hate on 40-h8ters

“Jessy Joyal”

Since: Oct 09

Centerville, MA

#48 Oct 27, 2009
I've also heard them compare Kyle Busch to Tiger Woods, too so it wouldn't surprise me.

“IN GOD WE TRUST”

Since: Jun 07

Raleigh

#49 Oct 27, 2009
JJBullet4 wrote:
Of course he's good for NASCAR he's piling in a good portion of Mr. Helton's money.
Just think back to when Richard Petty won 21 times in one season.
It's not that it's not good, it just gets a bit boring to see the same person win each week. It's predictable which is like, "why watch it? I've already heard Jimmie's victory speech the last three weeks!"
Wouldn't his 1967 year when he won 27 races with 10 of them in a row be a better example? Did NASCAR die? Heck, Richard didn't even win a race the last 8 seasons he drove and his win ration is still 1 in 5.75 races. He lead 1/6th of the laps he ran. Did that kind of dominance kill NASCAR or did it help it grow to where it is now? Now answer this question, what driver only ran half as many races as Richard, has a higher win percentage, high pole percentage but never in his career ran a full season yet won three championships? There's 5 extra points for knowing his nickname.

“Jessy Joyal”

Since: Oct 09

Centerville, MA

#50 Oct 27, 2009
Whoyakidding wrote:
<quoted text>Wouldn't his 1967 year when he won 27 races with 10 of them in a row be a better example? Did NASCAR die? Heck, Richard didn't even win a race the last 8 seasons he drove and his win ration is still 1 in 5.75 races. He lead 1/6th of the laps he ran. Did that kind of dominance kill NASCAR or did it help it grow to where it is now? Now answer this question, what driver only ran half as many races as Richard, has a higher win percentage, high pole percentage but never in his career ran a full season yet won three championships? There's 5 extra points for knowing his nickname.
There's no need to get snappy about it. I never, have never and probably will never disagree with someone who claims Jimmie Johnson is a great driver. But like it or not, and however many wins he had in a season or in a row, Petty is for now and evermore, King.
NO -WAY

De Soto, KS

#51 Oct 31, 2009
At least Gorden won his when you won titles by being the best all year long.

“"drive for five in'10"”

Since: Jan 07

Your the Man!

#52 Oct 31, 2009
JJBullet4 wrote:
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There's no need to get snappy about it. I never, have never and probably will never disagree with someone who claims Jimmie Johnson is a great driver. But like it or not, and however many wins he had in a season or in a row, Petty is for now and evermore, King.
Kings have been known to be dethroned. He even said that himself. And who knows JJ could be the dethroner (is that a word?).
Harrison Freebird

Reno, NV

#53 Oct 31, 2009
My take on "King"

The "King" of rock and roll is and always will be Elvis Presley.
The "King" of NASCAR is and always will be Richard Petty.

Down line folks might call JJ....who knows..."Best Driver" ever. Time tells all.
lurkinjj

Springfield, MO

#54 Oct 31, 2009
menards wrote:
I quit these forums as well. Along with all the legions of fans that left the sport many also left the boards. I mean just look at the conversations that are going on in the threads.... There used to be decent racing discussions.....
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if you quit this forum how are you responding to arguements in it.....i am just saying you might hate it right now but you are not giving it up...like a crack addiction when you are not getting what you want(your driver winning) you hate it...but as soon as it comes back around you will be back on the wagon......

“How We Roll”

Since: Nov 08

Area 51, Nevada

#55 Nov 1, 2009
lurkinjj wrote:
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if you quit this forum how are you responding to arguements in it.....i am just saying you might hate it right now but you are not giving it up...like a crack addiction when you are not getting what you want(your driver winning) you hate it...but as soon as it comes back around you will be back on the wagon......
I was thinking the same thing... it's like I gave up drinking milk... but the liquid stuff in my cereal bowl keeps me healthy and strong. lol

“Jessy Joyal”

Since: Oct 09

Centerville, MA

#56 Nov 4, 2009
jimmy48 wrote:
<quoted text>Kings have been known to be dethroned. He even said that himself. And who knows JJ could be the dethroner (is that a word?).
Haha not so sure it's a word, but true. Very good point. However, let's remember, Petty is as humble as a successful driver can get...which might not be saying much, but still. He's pretty profound.
Chris

Northville, MI

#57 Nov 5, 2009
He's good that's all that matters.
pete

AOL

#58 Nov 12, 2009
in a few years kyle busch will be ahead of jimmy !if he isn,t aHEAD OF HIM NOW.KYLE WILL HOLD MORE RECORDS THEN THE WHOLE HENDRICK TEAM !!

“Drive for Five”

Since: Dec 08

Miami Florida

#59 Nov 23, 2009
pete wrote:
in a few years kyle busch will be ahead of jimmy !if he isn,t aHEAD OF HIM NOW.KYLE WILL HOLD MORE RECORDS THEN THE WHOLE HENDRICK TEAM !!
It will take him at least four to get four championships!
nascar fan

Cincinnati, OH

#60 Nov 23, 2009
Jimmie Johnson has got alot of boos but so did jeff gordon and dale earnhardt for winning too much so many years form now people are going to look back and say Jimmie Johnson was a great driver.
The Fat and the Furious

Inkster, MI

#61 Nov 24, 2009
pete wrote:
in a few years kyle busch will be ahead of jimmy !if he isn,t aHEAD OF HIM NOW.KYLE WILL HOLD MORE RECORDS THEN THE WHOLE HENDRICK TEAM !!
He'd better get on the ball than, because so far in Cup he hasn't proven to be half as good as Jimmie or Jeff. You do realize that Kyle has been racing full time in Cup for 5 years now? Jimmie has been there 8. There's really no comparison. Jimmie: 47 wins, 4 championships, 117 tops 5s, 180 top 10s, 23 poles, avg. start 11, avg. finish 11.7, laps led 9681, finishing position 5-2-2-5-1-1-1-1, made the chase every year. Kyle: 16 wins, 0 championships, 56 tops 5s, 85 tops 10s, 5 poles, avg. start 14.9, avg. finish 16.3, laps led 4401, finishing position 20-10-5-10-13, made the chase 3 times.

At some point you have to start proving that talent. It's not enough for people to keep saying you have talent. Jimmie has done that as good as the greatest Nascar has ever seen, Kyle hasn't. He's still young and maybe he'll finally get it all together in Cup, than again, maybe he won't. It's not enough for people to always be talking about how talented you are, at some point you have to start proving it. Who knows, maybe finally getting that Nationwide championship and concentrating more on his Cup team might be beneficial for Kyle. We'll see, but until we start seeing better results than Kyle has shown, he doesn't even compare to Jimmie or Jeff. Potential means nothing if you don't start getting the job done.

Kyle needs to start growing and maturing. If he does, than maybe we can talk about some records that really matter, because at the end of the day, no one's really going to give a damn what he did in Nationwide and NCWTS if he can't get the job done in Cup. By maturing I don't necessarily mean his actions when he's out of the car either. He has to start maturing on the track. He can't do things like get frustrated when he has a problem and purposely hit the wall, doing more damage to his car. That's not the kind of things that motivates his team. He has to learn to keep a positive attitude, even through the rough times. Everyone has some disasters on the track and some bad days and no one likes it. You have to be able to put that stuff aside though and not be so quick to just give up like Kyle does. You can't just be all team motivator and happy when your winning. The guys are already motivated than, they need you to pump them up when things go wrong. Sometimes you gotta do that with some stern words, but the majority of the time you have to do it with encouraging ones. Kyle needs to learn those lessons, than he may reach his full potential.
Crystal

Parsippany, NJ

#62 Nov 24, 2009
Lets pretend for a minue, if Dale Sr. was still alive and still racing, even if he wasn't a top driver, do you think Johnson would have made it around Homestead without being bumped a few times? Nascar's policy of other drivers keeping their distance from the "chase" guys pretty much guaranteed there'd be plenty of room for the 48 to drive without worry all day. Maybe that's not a bad thing, since the 48 team earned the cup by being consistently excellent. Still, I think the old 3 car might have made him sweat for it.
The Fat and the Furious

Inkster, MI

#63 Nov 25, 2009
Crystal wrote:
Lets pretend for a minue, if Dale Sr. was still alive and still racing, even if he wasn't a top driver, do you think Johnson would have made it around Homestead without being bumped a few times? Nascar's policy of other drivers keeping their distance from the "chase" guys pretty much guaranteed there'd be plenty of room for the 48 to drive without worry all day. Maybe that's not a bad thing, since the 48 team earned the cup by being consistently excellent. Still, I think the old 3 car might have made him sweat for it.
Sorry, I disagree completely. Unless Dale was sitting in position to win the thing himself by trying to knock Jimmie around, I think he would have shown respect for the guys who had a shot at it. He, better than anyone else out there (if he was still around) knows how hard these things are to win. Now, if he needed to bump or wreck somebody to win it himself, like I said, than I don't think there's much doubt he'd give it a shot.

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