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NASCAR drivers warn that transition won't be easy for F1 imports

There are 66 comments on the CBC News story from Aug 8, 2006, titled NASCAR drivers warn that transition won't be easy for F1 imports. In it, CBC News reports that:

Formula One drivers like Canadian Jacques Villeneuve and Colombian Juan Pablo Montoya can have success in NASCAR, but it wouldn't come overnight, warn Greg Biffle and Adrian Fernandez.

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DJA

Superior, WI

#44 May 9, 2007
Race Fan wrote:
Gordon ran a respectable time that was 5 seconds slower than Montoya's. 5 seconds is a lot, and Gordon is probably the only NASCAR driver that cold have transitioned to F1 (in his prime).
I wonder how your opinion will change when I inform you that the actual difference was only 1.3 seconds?
DJA

Superior, WI

#45 May 9, 2007
You compared Gordon's best with Montoya's qualifying run from a year ago which is useless. Qualifying trim and racing trim aren't the same. Qualifying runs will always take place after a practice period where the car can be tuned and tweaked to suit the track and the driver can re-familiarize himself with the track. Track conditions, weather condtions also effect speed. The only fair comparison is that of Montoya's best time THAT day and Gordon's on THAT day. 1.3 seconds which JPM seemed impressed by. He also did very well in the Chevy.
carfan

Afton, WY

#46 May 12, 2007
I thought the F1 guys made a lot more money than NASCAR guys do.... Am I wrong?
STRATOCASTER

Malaysia

#47 May 16, 2007
kcwell wrote:
Juan Pablo was NOT a star in F1, I dont care how you SPIN it, he was the BACKUP driver and was forced out of F1...<quoted text>
Are sure you watch F1. Because take a look at the current crop of drivers. Other than the top five may be the rest are hanging on to F1 and are probably just mediocre. At least Montoya had the honesty to say that if he can't get a top notch drive he would leave the sport. Anyways I am very sure many teams would shed some of thier drivers to have him.

Are you saying has sent Montoya out and kept Ralf Schumarcher, Fisichella, Trulli, Coulthard, Heidfeld, Webber or Wurtz. Aren't these hanger's on rather than people who could take the fight to the top notch drivers like Montoya did to Schumacher, Kimi and so on
Dave

AOL

#48 May 22, 2007
I would love to see any nascar driver try to make a switch to F1! Jef Gordon has always said that he would have loved to race in F1, and as brilliant a driver Gordon is I honestly don't think that he would qualify well in Formula One and have any realistic chance at winning F1 races.

F1 is so intense and so competitive that I just don't think he could do it! I don't see anybody in nascar ever being successful in F1, Montoya is doing a great job and has aproched his nascar career the right way, Montoya may have taken out a few other drivers in some races but all "Great" race car drivers have an aggressive and selfish streak in them that gets them into trouble at times but it is alsow what makes them successful as well.
Todd W

Houston, TX

#50 May 22, 2007
carfan wrote:
I thought the F1 guys made a lot more money than NASCAR guys do.... Am I wrong?
I'm not sure. I know Jeff Gordon makes close to 20 million a year in endorsments, salary, & memorbillia sales. "I think". That doesn't include 85,084,255 in winnings that he has made during his career.
Todd W

Houston, TX

#51 May 22, 2007
Dave wrote:
I would love to see any nascar driver try to make a switch to F1! Jef Gordon has always said that he would have loved to race in F1, and as brilliant a driver Gordon is I honestly don't think that he would qualify well in Formula One and have any realistic chance at winning F1 races.
F1 is so intense and so competitive that I just don't think he could do it! I don't see anybody in nascar ever being successful in F1, Montoya is doing a great job and has aproched his nascar career the right way, Montoya may have taken out a few other drivers in some races but all "Great" race car drivers have an aggressive and selfish streak in them that gets them into trouble at times but it is alsow what makes them successful as well.
I read an article in the BBC that said Jeff Gordon was a second off the pace in his first attempt at driving a f1 car.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/37...
Alvin

United States

#52 May 22, 2007
Its interesting to see how NASCAR and its fans love the "too tough to tame" "Days of Thunder" Rough attitude of the sport, heck we even love to watch rock bands going nuts while watching wild crashes and drivers all ready to pounce on each other after a wreck. What's perplexing is reading all the negative comments about how Montoya did exactly what we boast to idealise. Is it that we are finding out how cut and dry, unpollitically correct and down right scary were drivers in the old days? Montoya is here to show us "too tough to tame" "Days of Thuder" "take no prisoners" attitude in the flesh and bones.
Tom Cruise

Philadelphia, PA

#53 May 22, 2007
DOT was one of my best movies. Thank you for the endorsement!
race fan

Woodway, TX

#55 May 24, 2007
Todd W wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not sure. I know Jeff Gordon makes close to 20 million a year in endorsments, salary, & memorbillia sales. "I think". That doesn't include 85,084,255 in winnings that he has made during his career.
i know in the last year of M.Schumi contract he made 48 mill. a year and thats not including endorsements 3 years ago he was the highest paid athlete in the world while J.Gordan was like 27th or something like that and Jr was 35th or something. Nascar drivers make more from their endorsements then any other series in the world though they also only get a % of the winnings that you see on TV every week
Todd W

Houston, TX

#56 May 24, 2007
Alvin wrote:
Its interesting to see how NASCAR and its fans love the "too tough to tame" "Days of Thunder" Rough attitude of the sport, heck we even love to watch rock bands going nuts while watching wild crashes and drivers all ready to pounce on each other after a wreck. What's perplexing is reading all the negative comments about how Montoya did exactly what we boast to idealise. Is it that we are finding out how cut and dry, unpollitically correct and down right scary were drivers in the old days? Montoya is here to show us "too tough to tame" "Days of Thuder" "take no prisoners" attitude in the flesh and bones.
Did you steal this comment from another forum or did they steal it from you?

anderson 24

“Obama Express”

Since: Dec 06

yes we can*health reform**

#57 May 24, 2007
COME AN GET OLE JUAN MONTOYA ..HES A WRECK WAITING TA HAPPEN ..CAN SEE WHY FI KICKED HIM OUT......
race fan

Woodway, TX

#58 May 24, 2007
anderson 24 wrote:
COME AN GET OLE JUAN MONTOYA ..HES A WRECK WAITING TA HAPPEN ..CAN SEE WHY FI KICKED HIM OUT......
he was never kicked out of F1 he left because Mclaren was not going to renew his contract and he did not want to settle for a second teir F1 team and also would rather live in the states.

anderson 24

“Obama Express”

Since: Dec 06

yes we can*health reform**

#59 May 24, 2007
race fan wrote:
<quoted text>
he was never kicked out of F1 he left because Mclaren was not going to renew his contract and he did not want to settle for a second teir F1 team and also would rather live in the states.
well.. is there anyone who can come an get the dirty dog....
Dave

AOL

#60 May 24, 2007
Juan Montoya was never even going to be fired from McLaren at all! There were rumors and speculation that he might be released from McLaren If Alonso joind the team and Kimi Raikanan stayed with the team since Kimi was the one qualifying better, but you alsow have to keep in mind that Kimi had been with the team for five seasons before Montoya joined and Kimi was outqualifying him by mere hundredths of seconds plus the fact that Juan had health problems with his shoulder injury which after missing several races in the begining of the season can throw a driver off of his A game just enough to determine how his season will go, And on top of everything ells Juan Montoya NEVER had competitive equipment to be able to challenge Michael Schumacher or Alonso for the championship yet he still managed to win 7 F1 races 11 poles and I don't have the statistics at hand but how many podiums and top five finishes! As far as I'm concerned Everything that Ferrari and Michael Schumacher did between 2001 and 2005 was at an unfair advantage over everyone ells in F1, So "Anderson 24" You obviously don't have any clue as of what you're talking about!

anderson 24

“Obama Express”

Since: Dec 06

yes we can*health reform**

#61 May 25, 2007
Dave wrote:
Juan Montoya was never even going to be fired from McLaren at all! There were rumors and speculation that he might be released from McLaren If Alonso joind the team and Kimi Raikanan stayed with the team since Kimi was the one qualifying better, but you alsow have to keep in mind that Kimi had been with the team for five seasons before Montoya joined and Kimi was outqualifying him by mere hundredths of seconds plus the fact that Juan had health problems with his shoulder injury which after missing several races in the begining of the season can throw a driver off of his A game just enough to determine how his season will go, And on top of everything ells Juan Montoya NEVER had competitive equipment to be able to challenge Michael Schumacher or Alonso for the championship yet he still managed to win 7 F1 races 11 poles and I don't have the statistics at hand but how many podiums and top five finishes! As far as I'm concerned Everything that Ferrari and Michael Schumacher did between 2001 and 2005 was at an unfair advantage over everyone ells in F1, So "Anderson 24" You obviously don't have any clue as of what you're talking about!
excuse me...i care nothing about juan ;just saying he needs ta get out of nascar its not for him....
tiger fan

Flint, MI

#62 Jun 4, 2007
montoya will not leave nascar he will win twice this year at the road course

“F1 the ultimate sport ”

Since: Jan 07

Johannesburg, South Africa

#63 Jun 5, 2007
anderson 24 wrote:
<quoted text>excuse me...i care nothing about juan ;just saying he needs ta get out of nascar its not for him....
Hey man we battled long enough to get rid of him from F1 , you guys should give JV a call i hear he is looking for a back up singer!!!!!!

Since: Feb 08

Cany

#64 Feb 3, 2008
It's not much to do with skills, open wheel guys are just as good if not better than NASCAR guys, the problem is the competition level is so high and so tight and if you don't go into it with a top team you are basically going to start to have a very difficult career because people will immediately pay less attention on you since you start racing in NASCAR.Montoya suceeded because he's with a good team and he's a good driver, if you put him in a team like say fdgdsfgsdfg, I'm sure some certain r%$^ will already start to bash the skills level of F1 drivers.
Jimmy

Portland, OR

#65 Feb 13, 2011
markl5 wrote:
<quoted text>
Montoya will struggle, Villenuve would struggle, any
F1 guy would struggle in their first few years at least in the Cup series. Just because a NASCAR stockcar is less in the way of technology, does not make it easier to master.
F1 is the ultimate car because of tons of downforce, the stickiest tires in racing, the stiffest chassis in the sport and computer assisted EVERYTHING.
Do not confuse talent with talent assistance.
A stockcar at stockcar's highest level is a greater driving challenge than F1. The fact that only a handfull of teams have won in F1 over the last ten years shows you that you are what you drive in F1. That you think that any F1 moe can get in a NASCAR stockcar and win shows that you really don't know that the driver and a greater part of the performance equasion than in F1. A driver must understand settup, he must manage tire wear, he must manage braking a car that weighs three times a much, on tires not as wide, with much less downforce.
Who in the world SLIDES an F1 car into a turn?
The differences between the two types of cars dictate that the NASCAR stockcar is the harder animal to get the most out of. That makes the NASCAR driver that wins, the best the business has to offer.
Assisted everything? haha Where do you get your info? They don't even have ABS breaking and everything has to be controlled by the driver, which is not only turning a wheel, its worse than fighter jet.
About sliding into a turn, maybe it is not possible anymore because the insane amount of downforce produced by modern F1 cars. But look this up: Piquet passing Senna on opposite lock on the 90's.
Comparing NASCAR to F1 is like comparing Canadian Indoor Football to the NFL. They are that far appart.

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