ES at Kobalt Tools 500-Qualifying to ...

ES at Kobalt Tools 500-Qualifying to After Race

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Since: Feb 09

United States

#1 Mar 6, 2009
Tire: Goodyear Eagle Speedway Radials

Number of Tires: Left-side - 1,600; Right-side - 1,600

Tire Codes: Left-side -- D-4242; Right-side -- D-4244

Tire Circumference: Left-side -- 87.3 in.; Right-side -- 88.6 in.

Technical Inspection Inflation:
Left Front -- 30 psi; Left Rear -- 30 psi;
Right Front -- 50 psi; Right Rear -- 47 psi

Minimum Recommended Inflation:
Left Front -- 22 psi; Left Rear -- 20 psi;
Right Front -- 48 psi; Right Rear -- 45 psi

Estimated Pit Window: Every 50-55 laps, based on fuel mileage (Sprint Cup).

Notes: This will be the first time that NASCAR Sprint Cup teams will be running this particular set-up of left- and right-side tires ... this set-up came out of a tire test with Greg Biffle, Juan Pablo Montoya, Sam Hornish and Scott Speed at Atlanta in January ... compared to the tire recommendation at Atlanta last fall, Goodyear has made construction changes on both sides of the car for improved handling ... the other change is to the left-side compound, which is softer for improved grip ... the right-side compound is the same one used last fall, after already having been softened after the spring race at Atlanta ... as on all NASCAR ovals greater than one mile in length, teams are required to run inner liners in all four tire positions at Atlanta ... air pressure in those inner liners should be 12-25 psi greater than that of the outer tire.

Es said that they found something last weekend that help make the car the best handling one he has had sionce Indy of last year. Because of the wrecks they did not get to show how good the car was, but that it should help them be closer to a good set-up when they get to the track in Atlanta?

I think the key is whether this tire combination will allow them to use that data from last week or the notes on the really good setup they tested on before this race last year and was made useless when BadYear decided to change the tires on the teams? I guess we will know after Qualifying?

No matter what...I say they need to qualify better and not be where bad handling cars in the back of the field can mess up your day!!!!
jmo

United States

#2 Mar 6, 2009
I think they need to qualify better to get the best spots in the pits...coz there is so much emphasis on getting in and out on pit stops.
i think that on fridays and saturdays, theyjust work on race info stuff for car and not worry so much about qualifying..which is a mistake on teams parts....as well.

or know that you have a good enough car that you dont end up staying in back all day and can work your way up front to be outta wrecks....so your day dont get messed up when you do have a good car!
Esadler19fan

Haddonfield, NJ

#3 Mar 6, 2009
http://fanzonesports.net/nascar/schedules/200...

ES is qualifying 17th. Will this help or hurt his qualifying effort?

Since: Feb 09

United States

#4 Mar 6, 2009
Just heard Hermie Sadler say that ES told him the RPM teams are putting in 3 different set-ups on their cars during the first practice to help make up for no testing and then they go with whatever feels the best to them! That is why they are so far down on the speed chart. It may take them til the second Practice tomorrow to get zero in on what might handle the best?

By their late Practice times today...they may have found something that helped every one except Reed? Reed was 36th in Practice. Reed's only saving grace is he might can use one of the better set-ups from the others teams and he also goes out 29th in qualifying? I feel AJ in the one one in the Catbird seat as he goes out 44th of 47 cars? Kasey goes out 8th and ES goes out 9th.

Since: Feb 09

United States

#5 Mar 6, 2009
Esadler19fan wrote:
http://fanzonesports.net/nasca r/schedules/2009-sprint-cup-se ries-schedule/2009-nscs-kobalt -tools-500/#qord
ES is qualifying 17th. Will this help or hurt his qualifying effort?
Actually he was the 10th car out. Would have been better to go out a little later, but he did qualify 14th! not too shabby. That is his best starting position this season and better than he started in either race here last year. For it being so early...his lap was only bettered by 8 of the next 37 cars to qualify after him.

If he can put down some fast laps in both practices tomorrow, then we might have something interesting to watch Sunday?
Esadler19fan

Haddonfield, NJ

#6 Mar 7, 2009
I wish he had gone out later no doubt! Definitely a decent qualifying lap laid down by ES! Could this be the turnaround for the RPM team? I am looking forward to some good racing tomorrow. Loved seeing Mark Martin on the pole!
UNCW Girl

Wilmington, NC

#7 Mar 7, 2009
I love seeing Mark Martin on the pole. I wish it was Elliott or Kasey though.
Wondering

United States

#8 Mar 7, 2009
From today's practice speeds, it doesn't look to good.
Long day in store

United States

#9 Mar 8, 2009
Unless there is something more than meets the eye during the two final practices, ES's struggles wil continue. Just wondering though, how the car ran on long runs compared to other's? Practice speeds don't show that. And, will he or did he try the 9's setup? I've never heard one way or another if he and Kasey like the same set up. All that being said, 3 poor runs in a row will be tough.
Lisa in MN

Cottage Grove, MN

#10 Mar 8, 2009
Esadler19fan wrote:
I wish he had gone out later no doubt! Definitely a decent qualifying lap laid down by ES! Could this be the turnaround for the RPM team? I am looking forward to some good racing tomorrow. Loved seeing Mark Martin on the pole!
Stay positive...I agree. Maybe a turnaround is right around the corner. One can only hope. We need to keep cheering on our man and never give up hope. It's not over til' it's over. Go Elliott!

Since: Feb 09

United States

#11 Mar 10, 2009
Lisa in MN wrote:
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Stay positive...I agree. Maybe a turnaround is right around the corner. One can only hope. We need to keep cheering on our man and never give up hope. It's not over til' it's over. Go Elliott!
Even though it was not the finish we hoped for, it was far better than the 43rd he had here last year! Given the fact that nearly all the drivers were experiencing handling issues due to a loss of grip I feel that the 19 team did a good job getting the car better later in the race. Now if they con only get it better before the race and then keep up with the changing track conditions?
Wondering

United States

#12 Mar 10, 2009
Anything is better that 43rd butis that saying so much though. Wasn't it you that said they hit on something late in the 1st practice? That something was just the same stuff GEM and now RPM has been doing for a couple of years and that is to run the 1st 2/3s of pre qualify practice in race trim and pretty much suck. Than throw in a decent qualifying setup and turn a good bonzai lap. Problem is that the car went backwards the rest of the weekend and would drop a lap before a complete fuel run.

Joe Gibbs had a driver a couple of years ago who did much the same, now Gibbs has the latest phenom driving the eighteen car. When does the driver takes some of the blame?

Since: Feb 09

United States

#13 Mar 12, 2009
Wondering wrote:
Anything is better that 43rd butis that saying so much though. Wasn't it you that said they hit on something late in the 1st practice? That something was just the same stuff GEM and now RPM has been doing for a couple of years and that is to run the 1st 2/3s of pre qualify practice in race trim and pretty much suck. Than throw in a decent qualifying setup and turn a good bonzai lap. Problem is that the car went backwards the rest of the weekend and would drop a lap before a complete fuel run.
Joe Gibbs had a driver a couple of years ago who did much the same, now Gibbs has the latest phenom driving the eighteen car. When does the driver takes some of the blame?
From ES's March 10th Blog posting on elliottsadler,com:

"Atlanta wasn't what we'd hoped for as far as where we finished but I felt like we made the car better as the day went on, which is progress. The last 60 laps I passed guys running in the top-12 so I know if we could go back there this weekend we'd be more competitive."

See even he is not satisfied with the way he has run, but sounds like he is seeing some light at the end of the tunnel? Whether that light is the way to be more competitive and get to the front of the pack or the open door RPM is showing him on his way out...only time will tell?

Also from that post:

"We just finished a day of tire testing in Darlington. Hopefully we'll end up with a tire that will make us be comfortable and help us be able to race hard."

I found this interesting as He seems to echo my contention that if you don't trust that your car will stick in the corners or that it will even be controllable then its tough for you to push it as hard as you would like too? Kyle Busch even had trouble with handling in the race Sunday and you saw ES passing him during the later laps! Since his car was not as good on restarts then ES was passed by a couple of cars before he was up to speed.
Wondering

United States

#14 Mar 15, 2009
More retreaded excuses, and no results.

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