Elliott Sadler drives his way to 8th at NH

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Sep 21, 2009
 
Not only did ES drive his way to an 8th place finish, but Wally was able to turned another 30th or worse place car into a top 15 car! ES and the 19 team were able to not only recover from a mid-race spin, but also some adjustments that hurt the cars handling! After they returned the car to it the better set-up, They used pit Strategy to get ES into the top 10 and ES drove his A** off to stay in the top 10 once he got there!!! He fended off several cars with fresher tire for at least 20 laps and was even driving away from them before next to last caution left them a 7-8 lap sprint to the finish! If you saw him in this race any question about his driving skill would be put to rest!!!! It has always been my assertion that if you give ES a decent handling car, he will put it up front and then keep it there!
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Sep 21, 2009
 
Now this is funny, coming from the source. You have been non existent for over a month and then when Sadler pulls a rabbit out of his hat (which he does about one and ten races) You come back sipping the koolaid? All weekend long Sadler claimed that you 'can't pass here', so driving his @SS off is a reach.

Like I have told you the last 'top ten', lets see him do it a few races in a row, then we might talk.

AJ has been consistently out performing Sadler week in and week out ALL WITH THAT OLD EQUIPMENT too. The difference is that you don't hear AJ falling back on the bad luck or car wont turn excuses.

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Sep 21, 2009
 
Oh yes I forgot to mention the luck he had that the green flag stops cycled through before the next caution came out and that allowed ES to end up 10 or 11th by that time and then he drove up to 7-8th before the the next caution! He then had to hold off the charge of fresher tires on nearly all the cars behind him for 2 restarts and only lost one position!

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Sep 21, 2009
 
Edwin Perkins wrote:
Now this is funny, coming from the source. You have been non existent for over a month and then when Sadler pulls a rabbit out of his hat (which he does about one and ten races) You come back sipping the koolaid? All weekend long Sadler claimed that you 'can't pass here', so driving his @SS off is a reach.
Like I have told you the last 'top ten', lets see him do it a few races in a row, then we might talk.

AJ has been consistently out performing Sadler week in and week out ALL WITH THAT OLD EQUIPMENT too. The difference is that you don't hear AJ falling back on the bad luck or car wont turn excuses.
I have not been on here for a while as I been busy with other things and Of course there was not much good things to talk about! Sure he has not run well till this weekend, but if you listened to his radio communications during each race, which I bet do not, this was far from a lucky win!!! they made huge changes to the car before the race and for once ES said the car was good and he was able to gain spots under green! he did say that they needed to get him to the front any wau=y they could as it still was hard to pass and once they got him there and the he was able to hold onto a top 10! For the first time at an intermediate track this season they were able to recover from a spin and adjustments that hurt the car to get that finish!!!! Es said after the race that they sohould use those set-ups when they build the cars future tracks this season?
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Sep 21, 2009
 
SADler got a top 5 at NH last season too. So I Guess we can just chalk this finish up like we can a plate track or a road course. In fact, his stratagy was based on a a road course by short pitting once the fuel window was made.

Perkins' could be more right than just bitter with his statements of "pulling a rabbit out of the hat" and that SADler needs to have finishes like this more than 1 in 10 races.

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Sep 22, 2009
 
wow wrote:
SADler got a top 5 at NH last season too. So I Guess we can just chalk this finish up like we can a plate track or a road course. In fact, his stratagy was based on a a road course by short pitting once the fuel window was made.
Perkins' could be more right than just bitter with his statements of "pulling a rabbit out of the hat" and that SADler needs to have finishes like this more than 1 in 10 races.
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ES drove the car from a 35th starting position to around 18th, even having the 7 car blocking him during the first pit stop! A good pit stop later on got them to 16th! That was when they made adjustments that hurt the car and he lost back to 21st or 22nd. He then got spun by Logano and they used that unscheduled pit stop to get them out of sequence with the others ES still said the passing was difficult so they stayed out to get track position and was able to hold on to a top 10 position till they had to pit under green! After Wally got the car back to the way it was early in the race, it worked out for him the pit stops cycled through under green and he was able to return to near the top 10! The main thing was while those behind him opted for fresh tires during those last couple of cautions, ES and Wally realized that the car was much better on older tires and staying out worked out for them as the car was good enough to hold onto a 8th place finish!!!

The main thing ES has been missing the last 22 intermediate track races is a car good enough to be able to use pit strategy and then be able to hold on to that good track position it gained them! Of course it helped a Crew Chief that knew how to put the car back to where it was handling better!!! That is supported by Wally and the 19 Crew receiving the: MOOG CHASSIS PARTS PROBLEM SOLVER OF THE RACE AWARD!!!!!
But like Perkins said in his post...they need to do it at more of these tracks for a few races before I get too excited about it?

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Sep 22, 2009
 
Oh yes..that top 5 at NH last season was a Rain shorten race where they decided to stay out in hopes it would get ended by rain. Not because they had a good car and was just looking for track position to be able to use it! Mow that was a case of pulling a rabbit out of your hat!!!
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But like Perkins said in his post...they need to do it at more of these tracks for a few races before I get too excited about it?
Yep.

There are 40 other drivers who can drive a 'good handling' car as you call it to a top 5. What sets the cream of the crop from others is the ability to drive a not so good handling car and keep it on the lead lap. When you go 10 to 15 races in between top 10s like Elliott does, it should tell you that he needs a 'perfect' car in order to be competitive. Other drivers don't need that.
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Oh yes..that top 5 at NH last season was a Rain shorten race where they decided to stay out in hopes it would get ended by rain. Not because they had a good car and was just looking for track position to be able to use it! Mow that was a case of pulling a rabbit out of your hat!!!
short pitting isn't? I am not saying it was bad strategy. But I would say that staying out while the leaders pit for track position, then short pitting when the fuel window is reached, is just as much rabbit pulling. This won't work at tracks where you can actually pass cars under green (and we are not talking about the back markers)

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<quoted text>short pitting isn't? I am not saying it was bad strategy. But I would say that staying out while the leaders pit for track position, then short pitting when the fuel window is reached, is just as much rabbit pulling. This won't work at tracks where you can actually pass cars under green (and we are not talking about the back markers)
So when drivers like Jeff Gordon, Tony Stewart, Carl Edwards or Jimmie Johnson does the same thing to gain track position and then can hold it by short pitting and driving their butts off to stay in the top 10, it not pulling a rabbit out of their hats...HUH????? Oh that's right...they are so good at driving ill handling cars all the time that they don't need to do that..HUH????? Where was Jeff Gordon and Edwards in this race? I will tell you... they were mired in a pack between 15th and 20th fighting ill handling cars and were NOT able to drive them to the Front like you claim they can?

The point I am trying to make is like those drivers ES relies on his Pit Crew to give him a car that he can drive to the front or at least be competitive with! Even those drivers are not able to be competitive with a poor handling car! They just get better handling cars far more often than ES has and if this New crew Chief can continue to give him better handling cars then I expect ES can give us more consistently good runs? Only time will tell?
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esadlern1fan,

Give up and just be happy with his finish some people are NEVER going to cut him any slack no matter what he does. Enjoy the placement and hope he does the same again this week. If not then just enjoy being a fan. Sometimes the battle is lost before you even start and honestly you are just wasting time typing to them it is a cat and mouse game that you will never win.
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Sep 23, 2009
 
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Give up and just be happy with his finish some people are NEVER going to cut him any slack no matter what he does. Enjoy the placement and hope he does the same again this week. If not then just enjoy being a fan. Sometimes the battle is lost before you even start and honestly you are just wasting time typing to them it is a cat and mouse game that you will never win.
I understand where you're coming from but what about the fans that do sit and wait for Elliott to have good finishes race after race? Why hasn't there been any consistency from him for over 3 years now? I'm not one to jump from bandwagon to bandwagon when a driver, player or team is doing crappy but I'm kinda fed up with the poor finishes. I said this is another topic-- I'm going to take a breather for awhile. I have no particular driver to root for at this moment and while I was quite happy that Elliott had a descent finish last Sunday--I want to see this out of him more than 3 or 4 times a year. To keep fans from walking away or being harsh-- produce. I know race cars are tempermental and all-- but for 30 plus races a season??
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The point I am trying to make is like those drivers ES relies on his Pit Crew to give him a car that he can drive to the front or at least be competitive with! Even those drivers are not able to be competitive with a poor handling car! They just get better handling cars far more often than ES has and if this New crew Chief can continue to give him better handling cars then I expect ES can give us more consistently good runs? Only time will tell?
You have been spouting off the 'only time will tell' for years. Time has already told on this driver, with consistent mid pack finishes, a crew chief revolving door and the endless retreaded excuses.
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Sep 23, 2009
 
Carly,
Here's the quote from that page:

SADLER ON DOVER:“Dover is a pretty good race track for us usually. We normally qualify really well there. But, Dover can just jump up and get you sometimes. I’ve had a couple run-ins with the Monster and he’s won his fair share. Maybe this time I’ll drop off an Ipod from Best Buy at its feet with some calm music and try to put the beast to sleep for a couple days.”

SADLER ON EIGHTH-PLACE FINISH AT NEW HAMPSHIRE:“We all try to do our best each and every week. It’d been a while since the No. 19 team recorded a top-10, so it was really great to see the guys smiling after a good, solid race. We have nine more weeks to try and learn as much as we can about each other as a team and get this No. 19 Dodge headed in the right direction for the folks at Best Buy and Stanley. We want to do everything we can to build momentum the rest of this year and learn as much as we can to give us a leg up going into 2010.”
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Sep 23, 2009
 
Thanks Jax! I appreciate you posting that.
I just wonder what Elliott's best is at times. Maybe that sounds mean but we don't see it too often. Will 2010 be better? That remains to be seen.
My boyfriend things he'll end up without a ride-- who knows.
The weather for Dover isn't looking too promising this weekend! It better hold up because I couldn't get Monday off like I usually do.

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esadlern1fan,
Give up and just be happy with his finish some people are NEVER going to cut him any slack no matter what he does. Enjoy the placement and hope he does the same again this week. If not then just enjoy being a fan. Sometimes the battle is lost before you even start and honestly you are just wasting time typing to them it is a cat and mouse game that you will never win.
I am happy with his finish! I just saw and heard something during the race that I have not heard or seen in a very long while at an intermediate track...ES being satisfied with the handing of a car and using it to drive his a** off to a 8th place finish! He Asked Wally Rogers after the race to make sure they try to use that set-up in the cars they build for the races left this year at these same tracks? It would be nice to see them unload with decent set-up from the start for a change????
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Sep 23, 2009
 
Carly wrote:
Thanks Jax! I appreciate you posting that.
I just wonder what Elliott's best is at times. Maybe that sounds mean but we don't see it too often. Will 2010 be better? That remains to be seen.
My boyfriend things he'll end up without a ride-- who knows.
The weather for Dover isn't looking too promising this weekend! It better hold up because I couldn't get Monday off like I usually do.
Don't you mean:
"Cough, cough, sneeze, sniff...I couldn't get Monday -sneeze, cough, cough...off like I..I..I..SNEEZE, oink, oink, cough...
LOL!!!
They may appreciate you staying in Dover for one more day...HAHAHA!
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Sep 24, 2009
 
TaMyJaxFL wrote:
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Don't you mean:
"Cough, cough, sneeze, sniff...I couldn't get Monday -sneeze, cough, cough...off like I..I..I..SNEEZE, oink, oink, cough...
LOL!!!
They may appreciate you staying in Dover for one more day...HAHAHA!
LOL! I wish that would work, but they know how much of a NASCAR fanatic I am and that I'm going this weekend. Bad enough I have that phantom doctor's appt tomorrow afternoon so I can leave early to start bunking out in the infield, lol. Use that magic want to ward off the rain on Sunday--please!

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Sep 24, 2009
 
esadlern1fan wrote:
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I just saw and heard something during the race that I have not heard or seen in a very long while at an intermediate track...ES being satisfied with the handing of a car and using it to drive his a** off to a 8th place finish! He Asked Wally Rogers after the race to make sure they try to use that set-up in the cars they build for the races left this year at these same tracks? It would be nice to see them unload with decent set-up from the start for a change????
This helps support my assertion that Finish was far from pulling a Rabbit out of their Hats!!!

[B]Changes lead to Sadler's crew chief winning MOOG award![/B]

http://motorage.search-autoparts.com/motorage...

"Following the race, crew chief Wally Rogers received his first NASCAR® MOOG®“Problem Solver of the Race” Award in recognition of the No. 19 car’s dramatically improved performance.

Presented by MOOG chassis parts manufacturer Federal-Mogul Corporation, the MOOG Problem Solver of the Race Award recognizes the crucial role played by NASCAR Sprint Cup crew chiefs during each event. The award is presented following each race to the crew chief whose car posts the greatest improvement in average lap speed from the first half to the second half of an event while finishing on the lead lap.

Sadler and the [B]No. 19 Stanley Tools Dodge picked up a race-best .279-second in advancing 28 positions over the final 150 laps of New Hampshire’s flat one-mile oval.[/B] This impressive march to the front was derailed only once, by a nudge from Joey Logano that turned Sadler sideways and triggered a multi-car crash on Lap 168. Sadler's MOOG-equipped chassis was undamaged in the incident, however, and the No. 19 car was soon back on its aggressive ride to a top-10 finish."
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This helps support my assertion that Finish was far from pulling a Rabbit out of their Hats!!!
[B]Changes lead to Sadler's crew chief winning MOOG award![/B]
http://motorage.search-autoparts.com/motorage...
"Following the race, crew chief Wally Rogers received his first NASCAR® MOOG®“Problem Solver of the Race” Award in recognition of the No. 19 car’s dramatically improved performance.
Presented by MOOG chassis parts manufacturer Federal-Mogul Corporation, the MOOG Problem Solver of the Race Award recognizes the crucial role played by NASCAR Sprint Cup crew chiefs during each event. The award is presented following each race to the crew chief whose car posts the greatest improvement in average lap speed from the first half to the second half of an event while finishing on the lead lap.
Sadler and the [B]No. 19 Stanley Tools Dodge picked up a race-best .279-second in advancing 28 positions over the final 150 laps of New Hampshire’s flat one-mile oval.[/B] This impressive march to the front was derailed only once, by a nudge from Joey Logano that turned Sadler sideways and triggered a multi-car crash on Lap 168. Sadler's MOOG-equipped chassis was undamaged in the incident, however, and the No. 19 car was soon back on its aggressive ride to a top-10 finish."
I'm so very happy that you are orgasmic about elliott's finish this past race.

MOST of his fans (ex-fans) have given up and moved along long ago. Do to either piss-poor performances, his f*cked up attitude, his f*cked up behavior or his f*cked up wife.

He's a could have been, who's become a never will be, soon to be a never was.

ONE good race proves NOTHING. NOTHING AT ALL.

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