Toyota teams have faded after strong ...

Toyota teams have faded after strong early season

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Kyle "Rowdy" Busch once held sway in the Toyota camp, but he lost his groove. And although Jay Frye and Brian Vickers have Team Red Bull on the rebound, Michael Waltrip's bunch is still struggling and there has ...

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Since: Mar 08

Winnipeg

#1 Nov 5, 2008
Funny, there is no link as yet, so that screwed up minds like mine can get the full story on this article>

Since: Sep 07

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#2 Nov 5, 2008
fityfive wrote:
Funny, there is no link as yet, so that screwed up minds like mine can get the full story on this article>
Here you go...

http://www2.journalnow.com/content/2008/oct/3...
Dillinger

Miami, FL

#3 Nov 5, 2008
fityfive wrote:
Funny, there is no link as yet, so that screwed up minds like mine can get the full story on this article>
You are so observant. You have the answer to everything. Ok, let's read!
Dillinger

Miami, FL

#5 Nov 5, 2008
wallbanger wrote:
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WTF--Banger-Buds are they talking about, with this statement:
__________
"And although Jay Frye and Brian Vickers have Team Red Bull on the rebound, Michael Waltrip's bunch is still struggling and there has to be more than a little second guessing about things."
__________
Are they talking about POS's drinkin' buddy/wannabe crew-chief....Rocket Fuel, with this second-guessing...shit.
10-4?
__________
"This day reminds me of my career. So much hope, so much promise. SHITTY RESULTS," (POS-10/26/2008 at AMS)
Who is the crew chief now, you remember? I can't!!!! I was so glad to see Rocket Fuel go. Don't trust him, don't like him.
wallbanger

Xenia, OH

#6 Nov 5, 2008
Dillinger wrote:
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Who is the crew chief now, you remember? I can't!!!! I was so glad to see Rocket Fuel go. Don't trust him, don't like him.
There were two from POS-Racing originally suspended after Fuel-gate 2007....David "Rocket-Fuel" Hyder, who has, since, landed on his feet and is the CC over on the Woods Bros.#21 Ford Fusion, with Awesome Bill from Dawsonville. He is, supposidly, on-loan from the now, somewhat, defunct BAM-Racing.

The other, suspended POS-Racing staff member, was POS's drinin'-buddy, Bobby "Rocket-Fuel" Kennedy, who, came back, this season, as the current CC, when Paul was canned, early in the season.

I would bet that David Hyder has been.....paid-off....by POS, to keep his mouth-shut, as the "rocket-fuel" deal was never, totally solved, in my mind, as both POS-Racing and JAPCAR seemed to shuffle it under one of their fancy JAP-rugs, for some reason.

Renee or "G" spread some bull-shit that-----just because David Hyder and some anonomous crew member were let-go..........that ends the matter and..........they were the guilty ones.

Just like the...."Drunken Sock Walk", POS/JAPCAR never really followed through with this, strange deal, at the start of the 2007 racing season.

Has JAPCAR ever stated what the substance actually was.....in a public-report? I sure haven't seen or read it.

Hyder simple took the fall and probably has some $$$$(I mean YEN!) to prove it, from POS and Motormouth Motorsports.

10-4?

__________

"This day reminds me of my career. So much hope, so much promise. SHITTY RESULTS," (POS-10/26/2008 at AMS)
Dillinger

Miami, FL

#7 Nov 5, 2008
wallbanger wrote:
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There were two from POS-Racing originally suspended after Fuel-gate 2007....David "Rocket-Fuel" Hyder, who has, since, landed on his feet and is the CC over on the Woods Bros.#21 Ford Fusion, with Awesome Bill from Dawsonville. He is, supposidly, on-loan from the now, somewhat, defunct BAM-Racing.
The other, suspended POS-Racing staff member, was POS's drinin'-buddy, Bobby "Rocket-Fuel" Kennedy, who, came back, this season, as the current CC, when Paul was canned, early in the season.
I would bet that David Hyder has been.....paid-off....by POS, to keep his mouth-shut, as the "rocket-fuel" deal was never, totally solved, in my mind, as both POS-Racing and JAPCAR seemed to shuffle it under one of their fancy JAP-rugs, for some reason.
Renee or "G" spread some bull-shit that-----just because David Hyder and some anonomous crew member were let-go..........that ends the matter and..........they were the guilty ones.
Just like the...."Drunken Sock Walk", POS/JAPCAR never really followed through with this, strange deal, at the start of the 2007 racing season.
Has JAPCAR ever stated what the substance actually was.....in a public-report? I sure haven't seen or read it.
Hyder simple took the fall and probably has some $$$$(I mean YEN!) to prove it, from POS and Motormouth Motorsports.
10-4?
__________
"This day reminds me of my career. So much hope, so much promise. SHITTY RESULTS," (POS-10/26/2008 at AMS)
I wonder what Bill thought when he first realized who was going to be the crew chief. Uncle Jack has never been in weird trouble like this, has he? Has anyone ever accused him of cheating or paying somebody off? I look at him as a very decent man who might make a big fuss out of something not so important, but that's about it.

“Sweet Ride or what!!!!!”

Since: Mar 08

Winnipeg

#9 Nov 5, 2008
wallbanger wrote:
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Dill, from what I have read and heard, from some JAPCAR-insiders, David Hyder has always been a very top-notch crew-guy, from his days with Robert Yates Racing to the current #21 team, with Bill Elliott.
I think he probably regrets the day he ever signed on the..........dotted-line...... ...over at Motormouth Motorsports and decided to work on POS's ride, for 2007. Somebody had to take the fall for......fuel-gate....and it looks like he was the......chosen-one!
10-4?
__________
"This day reminds me of my career. So much hope, so much promise. SHITTY RESULTS," (POS-10/26/2008 at AMS)
Nobody asked me but!!!

I still think Toy brought this technology with them from Formula 1 AND picked Mike's team to try it, having said that I think allot of folks knew what was going on, so many so that, that is how they got busted in the first place, ppl talk.

Now as for Jack, Dill he was busted early this year for not bolting down the oil tanks located behind the drivers set, this little gem helped the car go faster because the air under the car had somewhere to go.

Now they got busted because after the race all the Roush drivers did not break a sweat after 500 miles, NASCAR THOUGHT JACK HAD INSTALLED AIR CONDITIONING IN ALL HIS CARS.

Ok, ok it was only one of his cars, but they all looked cool after the race, does that count?

“Sweet Ride or what!!!!!”

Since: Mar 08

Winnipeg

#10 Nov 5, 2008
wallbanger wrote:
<quoted text>
WTF--Banger-Buds are they talking about, with this statement:
__________
"And although Jay Frye and Brian Vickers have Team Red Bull on the rebound, Michael Waltrip's bunch is still struggling and there has to be more than a little second guessing about things."
__________
Are they talking about POS's drinkin' buddy/wannabe crew-chief....Rocket Fuel, with this second-guessing...shit.
10-4?
__________
"This day reminds me of my career. So much hope, so much promise. SHITTY RESULTS," (POS-10/26/2008 at AMS)
Toyota teams have faded after strong early season
Kyle "Rowdy" Busch once held sway in the Toyota camp, but he lost his groove. And although Jay Frye and Brian Vickers have Team Red Bull on the rebound, Michael Waltrip's bunch is still struggling and there has ...

I wanted to read this article because they mentioned Mike in the first par-o-graph, as it turns out thats all there was.

In this case less is more> sorry more is less<
Dillinger

Miami, FL

#11 Nov 6, 2008
wallbanger wrote:
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Dill, from what I have read and heard, from some JAPCAR-insiders, David Hyder has always been a very top-notch crew-guy, from his days with Robert Yates Racing to the current #21 team, with Bill Elliott.
I think he probably regrets the day he ever signed on the..........dotted-line...... ...over at Motormouth Motorsports and decided to work on POS's ride, for 2007. Somebody had to take the fall for......fuel-gate....and it looks like he was the......chosen-one!
10-4?
__________
"This day reminds me of my career. So much hope, so much promise. SHITTY RESULTS," (POS-10/26/2008 at AMS)
Here is another story concerning Hyder. I have a Nascar girlfriend on another chat thing who told me at the time that fuelgate happened, David Hyder's girlfriend told her that it was true and David was in on it. The supposed girlfriend lives somewhere in the middle of the state of Florida.

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