Carl Edwards

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Brad Keselowski flips after being clipped by Carl Edwards near the end of Sunday's race in Atlanta.

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Tracie

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Carl, really? That was just down right mean man come on you could have seriously injured Brad and all you have to say is he nows why well I must say didnt care for you before this now you really SUCK!!! Hope they park you for a few races, take your points, and fine u tell it hurts!!! I'm sticking my tongue out at u right now you mean ass bully!!!!
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Brad had it coming. I think Carl should receive an award
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Will NASCAR flip flop on their instructions "to let the boys go at it"??? Brad wasn't penalized when he wrecked Carl last April and debri flew over the fence on spectators.

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a Real Fan wrote:
Brad had it coming. I think Carl should receive an award
Let's get something straight...

What Edwards DID put not only the lives of those who he competes against in jeopardy, but also the people who sit in the stands who just paid to see a race, not become a statistic.

The LAST thing NASCAR, Atlanta Motor Speedway, Roush Racing or FORD wants to see is a fan or FANS being injured or KILLED because Carl Edwards wants to play payback for an incident earlier in the race.

If Keselowski had been killed it would have been due to a pre-medidated act by a driver seeking revenge.

That is a criminal matter.

If NASCAR wishes truely wishes to be right on this issue, Edwards should be suspended INDEFINATELY until a board of revew decides his long-term fate.

It was a stupid act that could have cost the sport lives that could never have been recovered. I am now officially tired of these acts of stupidity...

And so should NASCAR be.

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NASCAR FAN wrote:
Will NASCAR flip flop on their instructions "to let the boys go at it"??? Brad wasn't penalized when he wrecked Carl last April and debri flew over the fence on spectators.
This is not about Talladega.

What happened at Talladega was not PERSONAL. Keselowski held his line and Edwards drove down on him trying to block. NASCAR did not rule against Keselowski because he had no choice driving for the win.

This was TOTALLY different.

If you, as a person hurt or kill anyone due to an intentional act, you can and probably WILL be prosicuted to the fullest extent of the law. If someone had been killed yesterday, and Edwards admits to taking out the competitor who's wreck caused that death, NASCAR, and AMS would have been libel and there is not a court in the land that would not have ruled against them.

This is not about sport, it is about stupid people playing around with 3400lb, 700-plus horsepower weapons.

A message should be sent to Carl Edwards and the rest of the drivers of NASCAR. They could have killed a father and son, or somebody else yesterday who's only mistake was wanting to watch a race.
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Mar 8, 2010
 
^^ Thank god, there are at least two or three people with a brain is on this forum. Thanks Mark.

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MarkL5 wrote:
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This is not about Talladega.
What happened at Talladega was not PERSONAL. Keselowski held his line and Edwards drove down on him trying to block. NASCAR did not rule against Keselowski because he had no choice driving for the win.
This was TOTALLY different.
If you, as a person hurt or kill anyone due to an intentional act, you can and probably WILL be prosicuted to the fullest extent of the law. If someone had been killed yesterday, and Edwards admits to taking out the competitor who's wreck caused that death, NASCAR, and AMS would have been libel and there is not a court in the land that would not have ruled against them.
This is not about sport, it is about stupid people playing around with 3400lb, 700-plus horsepower weapons.
A message should be sent to Carl Edwards and the rest of the drivers of NASCAR. They could have killed a father and son, or somebody else yesterday who's only mistake was wanting to watch a race.
Agree fully. They need to make an example of somebody about retaliation when there's nothing to be gained from it but risk to injury. If its two drivers who had contact and a position is lost, of course we expect hard driving and intentional pushing and shoving if there's a position to be gained from it. But to me, if you're many laps down and there's nothing to do but log laps, NASCAR should not allow any form of overly aggressive driving, and especially intentional contact.

If your day is done, cut your losses and stay out of people's way and just log your laps if that's all that's left.

I recall the Montoya Stewart incidences from last season, JPM with a huge run off the turn, and Stewie jumps in front of him and gets a tap from behind. Then Stewart gives JPM a big slam that cuts his tire which was extremely dangerous, but for the most part resulted with minimal damage to any bystanders.

Thing is, JPMS tap to Stewart was not intentional. Stewart's intentional act was not penalized. After a warning, JPM spins Stewart and gets penalized 2 laps. The rules should have been set and made aware that NASCAR will penalize any blatantly reckless act towards another driver and Stewart should have got penalized as well. Maybe then Montoya wouldn't have felt the need to issue his own brand of justice.

The whole incident should have been key to setting a rule for the start of the 2010 season:
Beating and banging for position = acceptable.
Intentional reckless payback = penalty.
Intentional reckless act after being laps down = harsh punishment.

Intentional reckless acts defined as leaving the racing groove to make contact with an opponent. This would give Montoya no penalty for tapping Stewart, Stewart getting a stop & go or pass through for slamming Montoya, Montoya getting parked, maybe credited as a DNF. Brad gets no penalty, Carl gets parked with a DNF.

Maybe not a perfect rule set but I think its quite acceptable.
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Calr must be back on juice, his loid lage is showing.

Ancient plovelb say: "You cannot plevent the bilds of sollow flom frying ovel youl head, but you can plevent them flom buirding nests in youl hail."

This exprain what Calr has fol blains.

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1 - Edwards screwed up big time.

2 - NASCAR has been put on the spot here.

3 - I bet the penalty from NASCAR will all but take Edwards out of the chase this year.

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Some of you guys need to remember that if it was Earnhardt Sr. doing it, it would be because he was the Intimidator and it would be ok. I can hear the "That's just hard racin'" comments from here.

But since it's someone else, all of a sudden you care about lives being put in jeopardy? I'm not buying it.

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LLC2 wrote:
Some of you guys need to remember that if it was Earnhardt Sr. doing it, it would be because he was the Intimidator and it would be ok. I can hear the "That's just hard racin'" comments from here.
But since it's someone else, all of a sudden you care about lives being put in jeopardy? I'm not buying it.
Did Earnhardt ever come from several laps down to destroy somebody's race with nothing to gain from it?

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i admit that was a VERY bad thing he did u could tell he did it on purpose even tho im a ford fan that was just uncalled for
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LLC2 wrote:
Some of you guys need to remember that if it was Earnhardt Sr. doing it, it would be because he was the Intimidator and it would be ok. I can hear the "That's just hard racin'" comments from here.
But since it's someone else, all of a sudden you care about lives being put in jeopardy? I'm not buying it.
Earnhard got called out many, many times for what he did on the track. He was put into the wall plenty of times too, but back then the drivers were smart enough to leave the paybacks for the next short track.
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Keselowski got what was coming to him. Somebody needed to do something about him a long time ago. I guess it's O.K. for him to get out there and wreck everybody but when its done to him he wants to cry about it. ( bless his little cry baby heart) Nascar said to let go back to the way it was now they want to go back on what they say. Nascar need to get their story straight.

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Cindy wrote:
Keselowski got what was coming to him. Somebody needed to do something about him a long time ago. I guess it's O.K. for him to get out there and wreck everybody but when its done to him he wants to cry about it.( bless his little cry baby heart) Nascar said to let go back to the way it was now they want to go back on what they say. Nascar need to get their story straight.
Brad DID get what was coming to him. But that doesn't make what Carl did right.

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Cindy wrote:
Keselowski got what was coming to him. Somebody needed to do something about him a long time ago. I guess it's O.K. for him to get out there and wreck everybody but when its done to him he wants to cry about it.( bless his little cry baby heart) Nascar said to let go back to the way it was now they want to go back on what they say. Nascar need to get their story straight.
Lady (and I use the word loosely), I think Brad was very kind in what he had to say about the hee-haw mule toothed fool Carl Edwards. I would have called him the sorry son of a bitch that he is and talk some sh*t about his ugly mother. If I were Roger Penske I would be having some real harsh words with Jack Roush. I watch every race, nationwide, Cup, truck, ARCA and I haven't seen an instance yet that Brad appeared to intentionally wreck another driver. I've seen several occassions where he over drove the car into a turn, lost it and wrecked someone else but that isn't intentional, that's being a rookie. Edwards isn't a rookie, just an Arkansas momma's boy bully. Edward's knew first hand the consequences of turning another COT around at that speed.

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<quoted text>Edward's knew first hand the consequences of turning another COT around at that speed.
You can say THAT again!! How could he have forgotten that these things take off when they go around at these speeds?

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LLC2 wrote:
Some of you guys need to remember that if it was Earnhardt Sr. doing it, it would be because he was the Intimidator and it would be ok. I can hear the "That's just hard racin'" comments from here.
But since it's someone else, all of a sudden you care about lives being put in jeopardy? I'm not buying it.
Do us ALL a favor and name ONE instance when an act of "intimidation" by Dale Earnhardt nearly sent a car into the STANDS of any race in his career.

Name it!

Do not scapegoat this issue by invoking an incident that NEVER happened. Dale Earnhardt had a reputation, but that reputation never put at risk the fans that came to watch him race.

Your reach could not be longer than if you were ticking the MOON right now.
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Mar 8, 2010
 
Does'nt anyone remember Talladega 2009?
All's even now. Let's race again.

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Walter Konkrete wrote:
Does'nt anyone remember Talladega 2009?
All's even now. Let's race again.
Yeah, we remember. That's when Cousin Carl screwed up and drive to pull in fron of Brad without having him cleared and spun himself, got airborne, got launch into the fence by Rocket Man. You'd have thought Carl learned something then.

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