NASCAR penalty costs Montoya a win

SPEEDWAY, Ind. Juan Pablo Montoya screamed bloody murder. Not literally, but the driver who dominated the Allstate 400 was frank in HIS assessment of a NASCAR penalty that almost certainly cost the Colombian the race. Full Story
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“BOO!!! Ya'll!”

Since: Apr 07

Las Cruces, NM

#62 Jul 28, 2009
14_Patti_18 wrote:
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You might be interested in this:
http://stockcarscience.com/blog/
I know that the conspiracy theorists won't be because this involves real science, but you might enjoy it.
That was interesting! Provides even more evidence that JPM was antsy and impatient, he should have ran a couple hundred rpm's under the maximum just to be sure!

Since: May 09

United States

#63 Jul 28, 2009
14_Patti_18 wrote:
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JPM may have a win in the Indy 500, but does he have as many championships as Tony has across every series he's run full time in???
So I looked it up for you. No championships for JPM in anything he's ever run.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Pablo_Monto...

1998 Formula 3000 Champion

1999 CART Champion

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Since: May 09

United States

#64 Jul 28, 2009
14_Patti_18 wrote:
You can pretend that last year at Infineon actually mattered, but you're comparing JPM to Tony like JPM has done half as much as Tony has.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Pablo_Monto...
First win Cup Win 2007 Toyota/Save Mart 350 (Sonoma)

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#65 Jul 28, 2009
racingfansworld wrote:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Pablo_Monto...
1998 Formula 3000 Champion
1999 CART Champion
How to Use a Search Engine
http://websearch.about.com/od/howtouseasearch...
Ohh I scrolled down too far and mistook the F1 results as the overall ones.

Ok, so how many wins does JPM have in the cup series?

Still don't have a leg to stand on when it comes down to it. JPM is not the driver Tony is and never will be.

So please prove to me that JPM is half the racer Tony is....

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#66 Jul 28, 2009
racingfansworld wrote:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Pablo_Monto...
First win Cup Win 2007 Toyota/Save Mart 350 (Sonoma)
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What's your point?

(And some would argue that was a fuel mileage win....)

Since: May 09

United States

#67 Jul 28, 2009
14_Patti_18 wrote:
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What's your point?
(And some would argue that was a fuel mileage win....)
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ooooooooooookay......

Juan won the Infineon race in 2007 - not last year. Saying that Juan never won a Championship in anything - you looked it up - was a dead giveaway...

I take it you're not in a Profession that involves any type of attention to detail?
Patti from iPod

Simi Valley, CA

#68 Jul 28, 2009
Got that leg to stand on yet???

See because what I'll do next is grab tony's first couple of years in the cup and compare them to jpm's. Who wants to take bets on whose stats look better at the same time in their cup careers???

“BOO!!! Ya'll!”

Since: Apr 07

Las Cruces, NM

#69 Jul 28, 2009
14_Patti_18 wrote:
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Ohh I scrolled down too far and mistook the F1 results as the overall ones.
Ok, so how many wins does JPM have in the cup series?
Still don't have a leg to stand on when it comes down to it. JPM is not the driver Tony is and never will be.
So please prove to me that JPM is half the racer Tony is....
Don't let it bother you, if there were anything viable about any of the two meaningless leagues mentioned, they would still be in existence!!! F3000 only put on 12 races for all of 1998 and CART only ran 20 for 1999! In 1998 (F3000) Montoya squeeked out a narrow 7 point edge on Heidfeld to earn the championship! In 1999 Montoya ended up tied for points with Dario Franchitti and was only awarded the championship, I can only assume, because he had the edge in wins!

http://dizzy1000.tripod.com/1998.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_CART_season...

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Since: Apr 07

Las Cruces, NM

#70 Jul 28, 2009
Patti from iPod wrote:
Got that leg to stand on yet???
See because what I'll do next is grab tony's first couple of years in the cup and compare them to jpm's. Who wants to take bets on whose stats look better at the same time in their cup careers???
You really don't want to make that bet!!!
TONY STEWART:

[edit] Career NASCAR Statistics
Year Races Wins Poles Top 5 Top 10 DNF Finish Start Winnings Season Rank Team(s)
1999 34/34 3 2 12 21 1 10.3 12.6 $2,613,976 4th Joe Gibbs Racing
2000 34/34 6 2 12 23 5 12.4 16.7 $3,175,270 6th Joe Gibbs Racing
2001 36/36 3 0 15 22 4 12.6 17.0 $3,543,043 2nd Joe Gibbs Racing
2002 36/36 3 2 15 21 6 12.6 13.2 $4,695,154 1st Joe Gibbs Racing
2003 36/36 2 1 12 18 5 14.6 13.9 $5,227,503 7th Joe Gibbs Racing
2004 36/36 2 0 10 19 2 12.9 15.3 $6,221,710 6th Joe Gibbs Racing
2005 36/36 5 3 17 25 1 9.9 12.0 $6,987,535 1st Joe Gibbs Racing
2006 36/36 5 0 15 19 4 13.8 16.7 $7,285,281 11th Joe Gibbs Racing
2007 36/36 3 0 11 23 4 13.1 17.6 $6,396,751 6th Joe Gibbs Racing
2008 36/36 1 0 10 16 3 14.9 17.1 $6,066,407 9th Joe Gibbs Racing
2009 19/36 2 0 11 15 0 7.8 11.8 $4,429,935 1st Stewart Haas Racing

Totals 374 35 10 140 222 35 12.5 15.1 $80,544,723 -

Data as of July 16, 2009 [11]

JPM:

{edit} Career NASCAR statistics
Year Starts Wins Top Fives Top Tens Poles Rank Team(s)
2006 1 0 0 0 0 69th Chip Ganassi Racing
2007 36 1 3 6 0 20th Chip Ganassi Racing
2008 36 0 2 3 0 25th Chip Ganassi Racing
2009 19 0 0 9 1 9th Earnhardt Ganassi Racing
Totals 92 1 5 18 1 32

No comparison!!!
TunaStationOKKK

Richardson, TX

#71 Jul 28, 2009
LIke that bunch of rubes can even measure 0.11 mph. I'd be asking what kind of gauge repeatability did that speed measuring device had!

You can take this to the bank: If NA$CRAP don't want you to win, you won't. If you stink up "the show" they will find away to pull your ass out! I saw Bill Elliott in 1985 at Daytona rack up a 34 second lead only to have a "debris on the track" caution, and then they held him in the pits making his crew chief fix something "loose" on the car, and that put him all the way to the back of the pack. Luckily, they couldn't stop Bill that day.
mike

Brampton, Canada

#72 Jul 28, 2009
You are right of course JPM is not half the is racer Tony is.
It is hard to be half the driver when you are twice as good

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#73 Jul 28, 2009
mike wrote:
You are right of course JPM is not half the is racer Tony is.
It is hard to be half the driver when you are twice as good
uhhhh.....

Where did you get that idea?? The stats sure don't back that assertion up. I love it when the numbers don't matter to idiot fans.

Ski

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Since: May 07

Smalltown New York

#74 Jul 29, 2009
14_Patti_18 wrote:
<quoted text>
You might be interested in this:
http://stockcarscience.com/blog/
I know that the conspiracy theorists won't be because this involves real science, but you might enjoy it.
LQTM....Science and NASCAR.
Those are definately two "words" that do not belong together.
mike also stutters

Westborough, MA

#75 Jul 29, 2009
10 years ago he apparently had some talent.
10 years ago.
racingfansworld wrote:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Pablo_Monto...
1998 Formula 3000 Champion
1999 CART Champion
How to Use a Search Engine
http://websearch.about.com/od/howtouseasearch...

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#76 Aug 1, 2009
TunaStationOKKK wrote:
LIke that bunch of rubes can even measure 0.11 mph. I'd be asking what kind of gauge repeatability did that speed measuring device had!
You can take this to the bank: If NA$CRAP don't want you to win, you won't. If you stink up "the show" they will find away to pull your ass out! I saw Bill Elliott in 1985 at Daytona rack up a 34 second lead only to have a "debris on the track" caution, and then they held him in the pits making his crew chief fix something "loose" on the car, and that put him all the way to the back of the pack. Luckily, they couldn't stop Bill that day.
Sadly you seem to be a little misguided, the idiot JMP was 5.11 miles over the limit in the pit lane. It's 55 mph speed limit, Nascar give the drivers up to a 5 mph margin of error, but the Colombian Drug Lord, well he was caught doing 60.11 mph, from where I stand even a moron would work that out, and with the lead he had, what the hell was he thinking... You not seeing the stupidity of it all shows that you are just a touch dumber than Montoya ... het with the program Tuna fish ....

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