Rousch Still Grousing About Toyota

Rousch Still Grousing About Toyota

There are 61 comments on the The Daily News-Record story from Sep 10, 2007, titled Rousch Still Grousing About Toyota. In it, The Daily News-Record reports that:

“They haven't built their own teams. They had to go with their money, they had to go buy an established team and convert it. And that doesn't earn any credibility with me.”

It took a while, but Roush believes what happened Wednesday confirmed his fears. via The Daily News-Record

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Daily News-Record.

Dillinger

Miami, FL

#21 Sep 13, 2007
Renee29404 wrote:
Dill, alot of stems from morons not entering 2007. They feel the US should not be doing business with Japan due to WW2 and Pearl Harbor. Well, hello, then let's not do business with the Germans either because of WW2 and the Holocaust. WAKE UP PEOPLE. Japan apologized, we became allies, and if it wasn't for them, we wouldn't have some of this great technology we have.
Other just don't like the idea of a "foreign" car in NASCAR but they don't realize that foreign cars have been in NASCAR since the 50s. Jaguar won NASCAR races back in the day. Dodge was taken out of NASCAR by the American owners and put back in NASCAR by the German owners. Now they've been sold again, and I am not sure to who this time.
Hey, guess what. I've been driving foreign vehicles since 2005. My Ford Freestar was built in Canada, and my new Ford Fusion was built in Mexico.
You always make a lot of sense, luv, thanks..Do we get to see Reuti this weekend, do you know? Oh, Renee, did I tell you I finally tried one of those energy drinks. In honor of Boris, I bought SoBe No Fear and is was horrible! I am sure they make many different kinds, but this one tasted like perfume! Sorry, Boris, the drink sux.

Since: Apr 07

Chesterfield, MO

#22 Sep 13, 2007
Sometimes you have to wonder what planet Jack Roush is living on.

Petty Enterprises has raced, Chrysler, Ford, Chevy/Pontiac/Buick. None of those companies purchased Petty Enterprises.

Jack would have you believe that every team in Nextel Cup was built with corporate money like HIS was.

Sorry Jack, that is not the case. You are the EXCEPTION not the norm. And now Jack gets his feathers ruffled because Toyota decides to do things differently than the way Jack Roush did.

Now you see why Roush is getting his head handed to him. It is because Toyota and GM's level of commitment to Cup is greater than Ford's. Jack wants more money, and he can't get it from Ford, so he sells out half of Roush to the Boston Red Sox to stay competitive. He would love to get into a better situation but all of his business interests are tied to Ford.

He's stuck, so what does he do? He tells you that the way somebody else does business is wrong.

Wrong Jack.

Since: Apr 07

Tucson, AZ

#23 Sep 13, 2007
Dillinger wrote:
<quoted text>
You always make a lot of sense, luv, thanks..Do we get to see Reuti this weekend, do you know? Oh, Renee, did I tell you I finally tried one of those energy drinks. In honor of Boris, I bought SoBe No Fear and is was horrible! I am sure they make many different kinds, but this one tasted like perfume! Sorry, Boris, the drink sux.
Oh, I think all 3 MWR cars will make this weekend's race. I have a feeling. They learned alot at Richmond that they are taking to Louden, so it's all good. w00t

As far as energy drinks are concerned, they all SUCK. They are full of friggin sugar and dangerous levels of caffine. Rock Star is one of the worst. The site I found didn't have the caffine levels of SoBe, but according to it's web site, it only has 87mg of caffine. Not bad at all.
They recent found these kids drinking these drinks like it was water and a whole bunch started getting sick from it. They abuse that crap. It's ridiculous. Instead of eating nutritional stuff, they drink this crap. Eat a friggin apple. It will wake you up better than any energy drink and it's good for you. w00t.

“KAIZEN!”

Since: Apr 07

Gambier , Oh.

#24 Sep 13, 2007
MarkL5 wrote:
Sometimes you have to wonder what planet Jack Roush is living on.
Petty Enterprises has raced, Chrysler, Ford, Chevy/Pontiac/Buick. None of those companies purchased Petty Enterprises.
Jack would have you believe that every team in Nextel Cup was built with corporate money like HIS was.
Sorry Jack, that is not the case. You are the EXCEPTION not the norm. And now Jack gets his feathers ruffled because Toyota decides to do things differently than the way Jack Roush did.
Now you see why Roush is getting his head handed to him. It is because Toyota and GM's level of commitment to Cup is greater than Ford's. Jack wants more money, and he can't get it from Ford, so he sells out half of Roush to the Boston Red Sox to stay competitive. He would love to get into a better situation but all of his business interests are tied to Ford.
He's stuck, so what does he do? He tells you that the way somebody else does business is wrong.
Wrong Jack.
WOW! Good going, I've never looked at this angle! So, what do you think about this Yates thing & Rousch? Just another way for Jack to keep all his cars & teams? 4 limit, this arrangement with Yates would tiptoe around that rule!

Since: Apr 07

Chesterfield, MO

#25 Sep 13, 2007
Ford has been on poor financial footing over the last few years. Note that Roush is the major Ford dog in Craftsman Truck and Busch as well. Ford pours most of their NASCAR money on Roush and he STILL has to go the ownership/parnership route to stay solvent.

If Roush/Fenway is NOT the only team next year in Busch, I guarentee you that they will be the only team WINNING in Busch.

The Roush/Yates engine program was a stop gap move by Ford to pool the resources of Ford's cup interests. Its been good for Roush, but not Yates.
Part of the reason is that Roush Marketing Services is a revenue engine that keeps sponsorships on his car.

Next year Yates and Roush will keep their numbers.
Yates could have grown with the merger of Newman/Haas/Lanagan, but that deal was busted by Robert Yates' retirement announcement.

The Roush/Yates deal will employ Roush Marketing Services and also make Roush a parts supplier for Yates. The two Yates cars will keep STAY the sole property of Yates Racing.

Since: Apr 07

Tucson, AZ

#26 Sep 13, 2007
Roush just proves why we call him ROACH
Dillinger

AOL

#27 Sep 13, 2007
MarkL5 wrote:
Ford has been on poor financial footing over the last few years. Note that Roush is the major Ford dog in Craftsman Truck and Busch as well. Ford pours most of their NASCAR money on Roush and he STILL has to go the ownership/parnership route to stay solvent.
If Roush/Fenway is NOT the only team next year in Busch, I guarentee you that they will be the only team WINNING in Busch.
The Roush/Yates engine program was a stop gap move by Ford to pool the resources of Ford's cup interests. Its been good for Roush, but not Yates.
Part of the reason is that Roush Marketing Services is a revenue engine that keeps sponsorships on his car.
Next year Yates and Roush will keep their numbers.
Yates could have grown with the merger of Newman/Haas/Lanagan, but that deal was busted by Robert Yates' retirement announcement.
The Roush/Yates deal will employ Roush Marketing Services and also make Roush a parts supplier for Yates. The two Yates cars will keep STAY the sole property of Yates Racing.
You made some good points, Mark and gave me something to think about. I haven't had much of a chance to study this aspect of the business. I like Ford, I like Roush's drivers. I always have. Sometimes, when I read some of the things Jack says, like about Toyota, I wonder. Well, to each his own. I think he has the best drivers and crew chiefs...the cars are fine. Are they finally getting used to their new COTs, soon to become their old cars? Matt didn't seem to mind it. I can't remember what Greg said, but he loves his Busch car. Again, thanks for a great post.
Dillinger

AOL

#28 Sep 13, 2007
Renee29404 wrote:
Roush just proves why we call him ROACH
He has a terrific group of drivers, Renee, can't help it if he goes nuts now and then and maybe eats Roach-a-la-mode.(would you like whipped cream with that, sir?)
Dillinger

AOL

#29 Sep 13, 2007
Renee29404 wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, I think all 3 MWR cars will make this weekend's race. I have a feeling. They learned alot at Richmond that they are taking to Louden, so it's all good. w00t
As far as energy drinks are concerned, they all SUCK. They are full of friggin sugar and dangerous levels of caffine. Rock Star is one of the worst. The site I found didn't have the caffine levels of SoBe, but according to it's web site, it only has 87mg of caffine. Not bad at all.
They recent found these kids drinking these drinks like it was water and a whole bunch started getting sick from it. They abuse that crap. It's ridiculous. Instead of eating nutritional stuff, they drink this crap. Eat a friggin apple. It will wake you up better than any energy drink and it's good for you. w00t.
While driving to work this morning, the DJs were complaining and making fun of a particular Starbuck's offering a children's coffee. Yep. Now, I type for a pediatric neurologist and every other child I have has ADHD. I do not feel that all that extra sugar in their coffee, energy drinks, Coco Puffs, and everything else goes well with Ritalin, you know? I used to teach. Mine didn't drink coffe, but they swang from the ceiling fans right after they had their cereal snack, Count Chocula and Lucky Charms. I read the back of Jeffie-Pooh's 24 and the amount of caffiene freaked me out. If he drinks that stuff, seriously before a long race, he definitely has to let it rip in the firesuit while driving. No way could he hold it!

Since: Apr 07

Tucson, AZ

#30 Sep 13, 2007
LOL Dill, yeah, I feel sorry for his drivers though. They are good guys.........well, all except Carl. They deserve better than a whiney bitch for a boss. If they wanted that, they would have gone to DEI.
Dillinger

Miami, FL

#31 Sep 14, 2007
Renee29404 wrote:
LOL Dill, yeah, I feel sorry for his drivers though. They are good guys.........well, all except Carl. They deserve better than a whiney bitch for a boss. If they wanted that, they would have gone to DEI.
You did hear that crazy-ass rumor that Teresa had Dale's engines blow deliberately? Oh, yeah. Then, one of the Nascar writers who was really ticked off about that statement said look, if she wanted Dale to realize he has made mistake by leaving, she would have made sure everything in the car would make him win.

Since: Apr 07

Tucson, AZ

#32 Sep 14, 2007
You know, it wouldn't surprise me if Teresa did. She's done alot of stupid things since Dale died. I don't personally think she did, but if it was revealed that she ordered it done, wouldn't faze me none.

Junior's had the best of everything at DEI which is why he's won more than anyone who ever drove for them. He was given the good stuff while Michael & Steve got the crap and experimental parts. That's been brought to the light a long time ago. Junior's had his chance with DEI equipment. So it's either the driver is not good enough, which I am not sure of. I think he's good, but maybe not quite good enough to win the Cup. OR it's the driver/crew chief combo that's not doing it. DEI does have Cup winning equipment. Junior was leading the Chase before, so we know it's NOT the equipment.

We shall see.

“IN GOD WE TRUST”

Since: Jun 07

Raleigh

#33 Sep 14, 2007
Teresa doesn't to slip into the engine shop and do anything. Every team experiments with things in the engines trying to find an advantage. Lots times these test engines don't last always last through a race. It would take nothing more than Teresa and the head of the engine department agreeing that since Jr. is leaving that it is a good opportunity to try some things. The crew chief installs whatever they send him, he has nothing to do with building the engines.
Racing Fan

Seven Mile, OH

#34 Sep 14, 2007
MarkL5 wrote:
Ford has been on poor financial footing over the last few years. Note that Roush is the major Ford dog in Craftsman Truck and Busch as well. Ford pours most of their NASCAR money on Roush and he STILL has to go the ownership/parnership route to stay solvent.
If Roush/Fenway is NOT the only team next year in Busch, I guarentee you that they will be the only team WINNING in Busch.
The Roush/Yates engine program was a stop gap move by Ford to pool the resources of Ford's cup interests. Its been good for Roush, but not Yates.
Part of the reason is that Roush Marketing Services is a revenue engine that keeps sponsorships on his car.
Next year Yates and Roush will keep their numbers.
Yates could have grown with the merger of Newman/Haas/Lanagan, but that deal was busted by Robert Yates' retirement announcement.
The Roush/Yates deal will employ Roush Marketing Services and also make Roush a parts supplier for Yates. The two Yates cars will keep STAY the sole property of Yates Racing.
Let Harvick run the Busch full season he would beat Roush teams.
Racing Fan

Seven Mile, OH

#35 Sep 14, 2007
Renee29404 wrote:
You know, it wouldn't surprise me if Teresa did. She's done alot of stupid things since Dale died. I don't personally think she did, but if it was revealed that she ordered it done, wouldn't faze me none.
Junior's had the best of everything at DEI which is why he's won more than anyone who ever drove for them. He was given the good stuff while Michael & Steve got the crap and experimental parts. That's been brought to the light a long time ago. Junior's had his chance with DEI equipment. So it's either the driver is not good enough, which I am not sure of. I think he's good, but maybe not quite good enough to win the Cup. OR it's the driver/crew chief combo that's not doing it. DEI does have Cup winning equipment. Junior was leading the Chase before, so we know it's NOT the equipment.
We shall see.
Whats Mikey's excuse??.The driver or Crew chief or both.....

Since: Apr 07

Chesterfield, MO

#36 Sep 14, 2007
Racing Fan wrote:
<quoted text>Let Harvick run the Busch full season he would beat Roush teams.
My comment was about any FORD team that competes against Roush in Busch.

Since: Apr 07

Tucson, AZ

#37 Sep 14, 2007
Racing Fan wrote:
<quoted text>Whats Mikey's excuse??.The driver or Crew chief or both.....
What's YOUR excuse? Are you a stock car driver? Do you have experience in that field? You imply Michael sucks but since YOU are not a professional driver in that field, your opinion doesn't matter. I have to rely on the PROFESSIONALS who know he CAN drive and is good. One person on the Speed Boards, who hates Michael, said that Ken Schrader lectured him for 20 minutes on why Michael's a good driver after the imp told Schrader Michael sucks. Dale Earnhardt thought Michael was a good enough driver to ask NAPA to sponsor him and give him a ride. You don't win TWO Daytona 500s and a Winston Open race without being a good driver. None of those was by luck alone, or because of rain, as I know some moron will come say.

Michael led the last 16 laps of the 2001 Daytona 500 with Dale Jr & Dale Sr backing him up like good team-mates do. Michael led most of the 2003 Daytona 500 before it was called for rain. Michael also led about 10 laps of the 97 Winston Open when he won it. He was smart enough to get around a fighting Dale Earnhardt and Terry Labonte and then lead the rest of the race to win it.
You also can't win 11 Busch races without being good. Anyone who thinks otherwise shouldn't be watching NASCAR.

“DONT TREAD ON ME!!!!!!!!!!”

Since: Aug 07

Location hidden

#38 Sep 14, 2007
Renee29404 wrote:
You know, it wouldn't surprise me if Teresa did. She's done alot of stupid things since Dale died. I don't personally think she did, but if it was revealed that she ordered it done, wouldn't faze me none.
Junior's had the best of everything at DEI which is why he's won more than anyone who ever drove for them. He was given the good stuff while Michael & Steve got the crap and experimental parts. That's been brought to the light a long time ago. Junior's had his chance with DEI equipment. So it's either the driver is not good enough, which I am not sure of. I think he's good, but maybe not quite good enough to win the Cup. OR it's the driver/crew chief combo that's not doing it. DEI does have Cup winning equipment. Junior was leading the Chase before, so we know it's NOT the equipment.
We shall see.
When jr was winning DEI was one of the top teams,but in the last 2 to 3 years they have fell behind in the teck part of things,No JR is not the best driver on the track.But he is one of the best.and when Jr was leading the points in 2004 he was burned in a corvette race and did not finish in the car for 2 races,things at DEI are starting to turn around to bad the best driver they will have next year will only be running a parcel schedule.

Since: Apr 07

Tucson, AZ

#39 Sep 14, 2007
They are going to be delivering parcels? LOL Sorry, I had to. I know you meant PARTIAL schedule. I agree with you. Truex and Menard are NOT good enough or popular enough to keep DEI running. Menard doesn't have enough money to keep buying his son rides.

DEI started falling behind the moment they took that monkey Richie Gilmore out of the engine room and let him run things over there. That's when things got bad. Nothing but trouble since that happened. Well, Teresa's going to have to deal with him and his crap.
Dillinger

AOL

#40 Sep 15, 2007
Renee29404 wrote:
They are going to be delivering parcels? LOL Sorry, I had to. I know you meant PARTIAL schedule. I agree with you. Truex and Menard are NOT good enough or popular enough to keep DEI running. Menard doesn't have enough money to keep buying his son rides.
DEI started falling behind the moment they took that monkey Richie Gilmore out of the engine room and let him run things over there. That's when things got bad. Nothing but trouble since that happened. Well, Teresa's going to have to deal with him and his crap.
My mother thinks that Teresa is doing the wild thing with Hendrick!!! I tried to tell her about Paul's dad, but she has no clue as to who I am talking about!!!! Yeah, she takes meds...

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