Daytona 500 victory still affects Har...

Daytona 500 victory still affects Harvick

There are 84 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Jan 17, 2008, titled Daytona 500 victory still affects Harvick. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

K evin Harvick had only four top-five finishes in 36 NASCAR races last year and wound up a disappointing 10th in the points standings, but his season was a success because of what transpired on opening day.

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TB Chief

Decatur, IL

#69 Jan 22, 2008
Dillinger wrote:
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He is finally going to have a great year. Hope you are doing fine, TB!
I am doin great Dillinger. No complaints as there are alot of people with alot bigger problems than mine. How are you doing? Clock watching at work? Don't do it girl, it will just make it seem twice as long.

“KAIZEN!”

Since: Apr 07

Gambier , Oh.

#70 Jan 22, 2008
Dillinger wrote:
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g, I am so bored at work today that I have been messing around on Nascar.com and stuff like that. On one site, Nascar's, I read Dale, Jr. was the fasted on test 2 and Mikey was 3rd. Then, while messing about someplace else, they said Kasey was. I don't know where some folks are getting this info from. Anyway, just something strange to share with you: Kasey Kenneth Kahne. Say that real fast. His initials, oh boy, KKK.
The speed chart where you are seeing Jr 2nd and Michael 3rd are single car runs, Like in qualifying? Kasey Kahne was fastest in drafting speeds, like under real race conditions, One car pushing another or several cars nose to tail to make the whole group go faster! However in draft practice, it's all too easy to say the fastest car drafted the best, because this is not always so, Sometimes the fastest car is the car that drops out of the pack and drives back up thru it to the front. Track times would be slower than the leader, BUT that car would be faster by position on the track, untill it lead a lap or two then it would be the fastest car in the draft! I'd bet that it's harder to win the Daytona 500 from the pole position, than say starting 8th to 23rd! I'll have to look this up. But a car that can move up and back at will, would be better than having the fastest time.
Dillinger

Miami, FL

#71 Jan 22, 2008
go mwr wrote:
<quoted text>The speed chart where you are seeing Jr 2nd and Michael 3rd are single car runs, Like in qualifying? Kasey Kahne was fastest in drafting speeds, like under real race conditions, One car pushing another or several cars nose to tail to make the whole group go faster! However in draft practice, it's all too easy to say the fastest car drafted the best, because this is not always so, Sometimes the fastest car is the car that drops out of the pack and drives back up thru it to the front. Track times would be slower than the leader, BUT that car would be faster by position on the track, untill it lead a lap or two then it would be the fastest car in the draft! I'd bet that it's harder to win the Daytona 500 from the pole position, than say starting 8th to 23rd! I'll have to look this up. But a car that can move up and back at will, would be better than having the fastest time.
Thanks so much for explaining it to me so clearly...I understand, now. I listened to Reuti on an interview from Nascar now, and I guess he was talking about it and he didn't sound very worried. I read where Michael said it was like the situation was last year only "upside down," meaning all good, not bad. I hope he is right. I am going to be nervous Nely when Feb. 17th rolls around...actually, by the 16th, I should be pretty darn near a basket-case. Worried, that is all. I wish MWR only tons of the best this season.
The Roush boys all didn't seem to run very well. I understand when qualifying comes around, Matt sux!!!!!!
Dillinger

Miami, FL

#72 Jan 22, 2008
TB Chief wrote:
<quoted text>I am doin great Dillinger. No complaints as there are alot of people with alot bigger problems than mine. How are you doing? Clock watching at work? Don't do it girl, it will just make it seem twice as long.
I'll eat instead. I only weighed 101 lbs at the doc's office not too long ago, so I don't care. Skinny like Kyle Busch.
nasfan55

Plainview, NY

#73 Jan 22, 2008
go mwr wrote:
<quoted text>The speed chart where you are seeing Jr 2nd and Michael 3rd are single car runs, Like in qualifying? Kasey Kahne was fastest in drafting speeds, like under real race conditions, One car pushing another or several cars nose to tail to make the whole group go faster! However in draft practice, it's all too easy to say the fastest car drafted the best, because this is not always so, Sometimes the fastest car is the car that drops out of the pack and drives back up thru it to the front. Track times would be slower than the leader, BUT that car would be faster by position on the track, untill it lead a lap or two then it would be the fastest car in the draft! I'd bet that it's harder to win the Daytona 500 from the pole position, than say starting 8th to 23rd! I'll have to look this up. But a car that can move up and back at will, would be better than having the fastest time.
You could see that last year at dega when MW had the pole. His car would not run to the front at will. I have seen his car be good enough to run where he wanted within reason. Since Toyota has been successful at increasing horsepower mabe we will see it again. Hendricks will have something to say about that though.

“KAIZEN!”

Since: Apr 07

Gambier , Oh.

#74 Jan 22, 2008
Jim wrote:
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The numbers are the "average" of total testing, if you read my post carefully you would have seen the word "average" or maybe I should have used cumulative.
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As for TS his average is 8th, I don't consider that mid pack. May I ask why you say "unfortunalty"?
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Is that the excuse you're going to use for his mediocre speeds?
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I have no formula, I got these numbers from Jayski.com . As for your so called "assumptions". You know what they say don't make assumptions, you'll make an "ass" of "u".
YES, you should use the word cumulative, if that's the speeds your going to use! In not doing so you have effectivly made an ass of u! Average is a ratio expressing the average performance, as in He ran 3 laps, 1st one 176mph, second 179mph, and the third 192mph, His average mph was 182.33 mph! Cumulative is a funtion that gives you the PROBABILITY that a random variable is less than or equal to the independant varible of the funtion! OR if you like increased in severity with repetition, Useing the same numbers above the cumulative speed would be 192mph, Average speed was 182.33, see a difference? Thus the problem with cumulative speeds, noone can go faster forever! Cumulative works in physics, algebra, and theroy! However in the real world I'll take averages, that's why I asked because nowhere can I find how many laps were run and how fast each lap was, BUT you can bet you "ass" the teams that tested do! Also on your assumtion on Tony, I really don't care if he even runs the race, Or JGR is even around, So I have no need for excuses! Excuses-friends don't need them, and enemies don't belive them, so I don't use them!Strike two!

“KAIZEN!”

Since: Apr 07

Gambier , Oh.

#75 Jan 22, 2008
nasfan55 wrote:
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You could see that last year at dega when MW had the pole. His car would not run to the front at will. I have seen his car be good enough to run where he wanted within reason. Since Toyota has been successful at increasing horsepower mabe we will see it again. Hendricks will have something to say about that though.
Exactly, When I posted at will, I ment when the driver wanted it to, the car must perform. Noone can deny that Michael can drive restrictor plate tracks and draft 'splains 2 Daytona 5oo's and a Talladega win! Ask any driver that has run either place and they would choose a handleing car over speed!

“KAIZEN!”

Since: Apr 07

Gambier , Oh.

#76 Jan 22, 2008
TB Chief wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah, I wasn't going to argue the point with him but I was thinking the same thing. He has junior in the middle of the pack and I like you don't understand how he came up with that. Overall I think HMS was very satisfied with the test results. They will be ready for anyone and any make of car or engine. Go Junior!
He's useing cumulative speeds and calling them average speeds. He got these off Jayski's, But even at that Jayski's is not showing all the drivers that tested on that sheet. thier just showing the ones that tested that session! Hell I'll argue numbers all day today! My rig just frooze up this morning. I have decided to sit in the shop where it's about 80 degrees, instead of on the back of the rig where it's snowing and about 22 degrees before wind chill, Tools and water are freezing up as fast as I can thaw them, so I'll just cook up a big pot of potato soup and wait for the other guy's to give up!
Jim

Berlin, NH

#77 Jan 22, 2008
go mwr wrote:
<quoted text>YES, you should use the word cumulative, if that's the speeds your going to use! In not doing so you have effectivly made an ass of u! Average is a ratio expressing the average performance, as in He ran 3 laps, 1st one 176mph, second 179mph, and the third 192mph, His average mph was 182.33 mph! Cumulative is a funtion that gives you the PROBABILITY that a random variable is less than or equal to the independant varible of the funtion! OR if you like increased in severity with repetition, Useing the same numbers above the cumulative speed would be 192mph, Average speed was 182.33, see a difference? Thus the problem with cumulative speeds, noone can go faster forever! Cumulative works in physics, algebra, and theroy! However in the real world I'll take averages, that's why I asked because nowhere can I find how many laps were run and how fast each lap was, BUT you can bet you "ass" the teams that tested do! Also on your assumtion on Tony, I really don't care if he even runs the race, Or JGR is even around, So I have no need for excuses! Excuses-friends don't need them, and enemies don't belive them, so I don't use them!Strike two!
It still remains that facts are facts and numbers don't lie.

I didn't make up the numbers so if you don't like it that's not my problem.

Strike three, you're OUT.
Dillinger

AOL

#79 Jan 22, 2008
BOZO THE CLOWN wrote:
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"NO ONE" IS 2 WORDS, PEA BRAIN
Bozo, be nice, yes, you are correct. Sometimes, people f(*that one up. How have you been?
Dillinger

AOL

#80 Jan 22, 2008
go mwr wrote:
<quoted text>He's useing cumulative speeds and calling them average speeds. He got these off Jayski's, But even at that Jayski's is not showing all the drivers that tested on that sheet. thier just showing the ones that tested that session! Hell I'll argue numbers all day today! My rig just frooze up this morning. I have decided to sit in the shop where it's about 80 degrees, instead of on the back of the rig where it's snowing and about 22 degrees before wind chill, Tools and water are freezing up as fast as I can thaw them, so I'll just cook up a big pot of potato soup and wait for the other guy's to give up!
You keep warm!

“KAIZEN!”

Since: Apr 07

Gambier , Oh.

#81 Jan 22, 2008
BOZO THE CLOWN wrote:
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"NO ONE" IS 2 WORDS, PEA BRAIN
Okay your right! Feel better? Proud of yourself? Still doesn't change the fact that there are 2, count them 2 Daytona 500 and a Taladega win! Both restrictor plate tracks! Your only problem is spelling? BOZO THE CLOWN = TROLL!! Go back under your bridge!
TB Chief

Decatur, IL

#82 Jan 22, 2008
go mwr wrote:
<quoted text>He's useing cumulative speeds and calling them average speeds. He got these off Jayski's, But even at that Jayski's is not showing all the drivers that tested on that sheet. thier just showing the ones that tested that session! Hell I'll argue numbers all day today! My rig just frooze up this morning. I have decided to sit in the shop where it's about 80 degrees, instead of on the back of the rig where it's snowing and about 22 degrees before wind chill, Tools and water are freezing up as fast as I can thaw them, so I'll just cook up a big pot of potato soup and wait for the other guy's to give up!
Potato soup sounds good. I don't blame you for staying where it is warm. We are heading south and we are down below Memphis and was able to shut our boiler off today. Hopefully by the time we head north this cold spell will have broken. This severe cold is hard on equipment I know. I have been lucky so far this hitch, the ole boat is holding up rather well. I hope I didn't jinx myself by saying that. You have good evening and stay warm!
Mark Martin should of won

AOL

#83 Jan 22, 2008

“Nipsy, Chica's pillow”

Since: Nov 07

Bolingbrook, IL

#84 Jan 23, 2008
TB Chief wrote:
<quoted text>Potato soup sounds good. I don't blame you for staying where it is warm. We are heading south and we are down below Memphis and was able to shut our boiler off today. Hopefully by the time we head north this cold spell will have broken. This severe cold is hard on equipment I know. I have been lucky so far this hitch, the ole boat is holding up rather well. I hope I didn't jinx myself by saying that. You have good evening and stay warm!
Hi there! I hope your trip back is warmer this time. The cold has been causing a lot of problems up here on the river. A couple of big ice jams on the Kankakee River. They had to rescue some people from their cars because of flash flooding.
Stay warm and safe friend.
TB Chief

Decatur, IL

#85 Jan 23, 2008
b kind 2 animals wrote:
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Hi there! I hope your trip back is warmer this time. The cold has been causing a lot of problems up here on the river. A couple of big ice jams on the Kankakee River. They had to rescue some people from their cars because of flash flooding.
Stay warm and safe friend.
Thanks girl, I hope you are doing better? Yeah, I just saw that on the news about the ice jam. That's wierd. Are you working today?

“Nipsy, Chica's pillow”

Since: Nov 07

Bolingbrook, IL

#86 Jan 23, 2008
TB Chief wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks girl, I hope you are doing better? Yeah, I just saw that on the news about the ice jam. That's wierd. Are you working today?
I'm doing much better. Thank you for asking. I'm healing up pretty quick I think. I feel much better now. My grandma used to say always hold your head up high. So that's what I'm doing.
Yeah I'm working the rest of the week. I signed up for some field trips for this Saturday. I hope I get one. One of the trips goes to Normal.
That field trip to Wisconsin I was supposed to go on Monday, I'm so glad I didn't go. There were four other buses going and those drivers said the trip was terrible. Ice everywhere. And you know me with the buses and ice...lol!
christy88

San Antonio, TX

#87 Jan 23, 2008
b kind 2 animals wrote:
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I'm doing much better. Thank you for asking. I'm healing up pretty quick I think. I feel much better now. My grandma used to say always hold your head up high. So that's what I'm doing.
Yeah I'm working the rest of the week. I signed up for some field trips for this Saturday. I hope I get one. One of the trips goes to Normal.
That field trip to Wisconsin I was supposed to go on Monday, I'm so glad I didn't go. There were four other buses going and those drivers said the trip was terrible. Ice everywhere. And you know me with the buses and ice...lol!
IM glad to hear your doing better, just keep your chin up girl

Since: Apr 07

Green Valley, AZ

#88 Jan 23, 2008
Hey TB, if Mikey can't win the Daytona 500 this year, I really hope Junior does, just so he can shove it in Teresa's face. HAHAHAHA
TB Chief

Decatur, IL

#89 Jan 23, 2008
Renee29404 wrote:
Hey TB, if Mikey can't win the Daytona 500 this year, I really hope Junior does, just so he can shove it in Teresa's face. HAHAHAHA
Well I like the way you are thinkng Renee! How the hell have you been? You been keeping them straight over on those other forums?

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