Feelings Might Get Hurt Being Both Friends and Competitors in NASCAR

Nov 17, 2009 Full story: bleacherreport.com 74

A lot of relationships are formed in NASCAR racing. Within teams they become family, which can even be said for the entire series.

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Bigkahuna1

Gardenville, PA

#1 Nov 17, 2009
well written, but I'm not so sure that comment he made can be ovelooked. But I'm not Jr and Tony S, so who knows.
jenn

Las Vegas, NV

#2 Nov 17, 2009
yea..i mean way to kick a friend when he is down..i know jr feels bad about the whole deal..
Jim

Concord, NH

#3 Nov 18, 2009
In response to post #1;

The comment shouldn't be overlooked.

TS said what should have been said a long time ago.

Question is, will the sheep stay blind and make excuses or will they finally realize the truth?

In response to post #2;

How do you know they're fiends?

Is "kicking" or stating the truth?

How do you know how Jr. feels about it?
jrw

Glen Burnie, MD

#4 Nov 18, 2009
Jim, it has been over two years that you have been stuck on replay when it comes to Jr. what is it that you are trying to get done here w/ your constant ramble about Jr.?? Anyone that knows anything about these two know they are friends.

You speak of his fans as sheeps here in your post.. which i just lol at anymore when i read it.
You have accused some here before that they think Dale jr is God which couldn't be anything further from the truth w/ me.
But yet here you are acting as if.. well Tony, said he had no talent so therefore it just has to be a FACT.
You don't get it , do ya????
His true fans don't care what you think , or anyone else thinks, WE ARE HERE TO STAY with Jr. as our driver ...and boy that just burns your britches up don't it?

Not only was his words about Jr a low blow that says what kinda person he really is.. think of it as this, it also was one of his teammates to a degree.. very , very non sportsmanship in my opinion, low ..plus what is that saying about Rick??..hmm the man that helped him have the best equip too this yr.
Wonder why he isn't where JJ is ..see you can look at it anyway you want..but it is what it is..Jr. had a bad yr , Ton'y had a better one than Jr. An JJ goes for his fourth!

Get over this crap already Jim.

Since: Aug 07

Location hidden

#5 Nov 18, 2009
jrw wrote:
Jim, it has been over two years that you have been stuck on replay when it comes to Jr. what is it that you are trying to get done here w/ your constant ramble about Jr.?? Anyone that knows anything about these two know they are friends.
You speak of his fans as sheeps here in your post.. which i just lol at anymore when i read it.
You have accused some here before that they think Dale jr is God which couldn't be anything further from the truth w/ me.
But yet here you are acting as if.. well Tony, said he had no talent so therefore it just has to be a FACT.
You don't get it , do ya????
His true fans don't care what you think , or anyone else thinks, WE ARE HERE TO STAY with Jr. as our driver ...and boy that just burns your britches up don't it?
Not only was his words about Jr a low blow that says what kinda person he really is.. think of it as this, it also was one of his teammates to a degree.. very , very non sportsmanship in my opinion, low ..plus what is that saying about Rick??..hmm the man that helped him have the best equip too this yr.
Wonder why he isn't where JJ is ..see you can look at it anyway you want..but it is what it is..Jr. had a bad yr , Ton'y had a better one than Jr. An JJ goes for his fourth!
Get over this crap already Jim.
I thought this needed reposted. Great post. Thanks.

Since: Nov 09

Webb City, MO

#6 Nov 18, 2009
I wont pretend I have 1-up on anyone with psychology but here's what I see.

Tony IS a good friend, but its real hard to help a friend when you don't have any answers. I'm sure if he could break Jr's curse, he would. Jr knows that's quite likely the case. Both of them know Jr's in a slump and its sometimes Jr's fault when it's something he does that continues his streak of bad incidences.

Now take a driver who they may both believe is the better of the two, having a great season, and here's Dale trying hard but doesn't want to be a problem to any friends or chasers... and he fails. He loses his car and wrecks himself and others.

I think Tony's instinct is to blurt out an insult to get a point across: "Dude you're screwing up and you're taking people down with you..." Sure it came out like 'no talent SOB' but here lies the seriousness of what he's saying. "...don't let it happen again or else..."

He's not saying it'll effect their off track relationship but his on-track respect for Junior won't endure another incident.

That's what I think I get from what was said. Junior is more aware than anyone and probably holds a lot of guilt because of it. After something like this, his tail is between his legs anyway, but Tony is announcing that he won't put up with getting brought down with him.
jrw

Glen Burnie, MD

#7 Nov 18, 2009
YouTube Boy wrote:
I wont pretend I have 1-up on anyone with psychology but here's what I see.
Tony IS a good friend, but its real hard to help a friend when you don't have any answers. I'm sure if he could break Jr's curse, he would. Jr knows that's quite likely the case. Both of them know Jr's in a slump and its sometimes Jr's fault when it's something he does that continues his streak of bad incidences.
Now take a driver who they may both believe is the better of the two, having a great season, and here's Dale trying hard but doesn't want to be a problem to any friends or chasers... and he fails. He loses his car and wrecks himself and others.
I think Tony's instinct is to blurt out an insult to get a point across: "Dude you're screwing up and you're taking people down with you..." Sure it came out like 'no talent SOB' but here lies the seriousness of what he's saying. "...don't let it happen again or else..."
He's not saying it'll effect their off track relationship but his on-track respect for Junior won't endure another incident.
That's what I think I get from what was said. Junior is more aware than anyone and probably holds a lot of guilt because of it. After something like this, his tail is between his legs anyway, but Tony is announcing that he won't put up with getting brought down with him.
Oh,OK.
Thanks for the laugh.
lol
Jim

Manchester, NH

#8 Nov 18, 2009
jrw wrote:
Jim, it has been over two years that you have been stuck on replay when it comes to Jr. what is it that you are trying to get done here w/ your constant ramble about Jr.?? Anyone that knows anything about these two know they are friends.
You speak of his fans as sheeps here in your post.. which i just lol at anymore when i read it.
You have accused some here before that they think Dale jr is God which couldn't be anything further from the truth w/ me.
But yet here you are acting as if.. well Tony, said he had no talent so therefore it just has to be a FACT.
You don't get it , do ya????
His true fans don't care what you think , or anyone else thinks, WE ARE HERE TO STAY with Jr. as our driver ...and boy that just burns your britches up don't it?
Not only was his words about Jr a low blow that says what kinda person he really is.. think of it as this, it also was one of his teammates to a degree.. very , very non sportsmanship in my opinion, low ..plus what is that saying about Rick??..hmm the man that helped him have the best equip too this yr.
Wonder why he isn't where JJ is ..see you can look at it anyway you want..but it is what it is..Jr. had a bad yr , Ton'y had a better one than Jr. An JJ goes for his fourth!
Get over this crap already Jim.
If I’ve been “stuck on replay” for two years, then what do you say to those who have been making excuses (for two years) the last one being the he’s “cursed”?

If you don’t believe you are one of the sheep or think that he’s a god, then why do those words bother you?

What TS said supports what I’ve been saying (for two years) and boy that just burns your britches up don't it?

Well let’s take a look at some things that Jr. has said;

Earnhardt radioed his crew and said, "Tell Vickers if he wants to meet me in the garage to get his (rear) beat, I'm willing."

What does that say of the kind of person he is or where’s the sportsmanship?

RH “helped” TS have the best equipment?

I bet TS pays a pretty penny for that “help”.

As for the “bad year” comment, he hasn’t had a “good” year since 2004.

You call it “crap” because you don’t agree with me, so I say to you “get over your crap”.
Bigkahuna1

Gardenville, PA

#9 Nov 18, 2009
YouTube Boy wrote:
I wont pretend I have 1-up on anyone with psychology but here's what I see.
Tony IS a good friend, but its real hard to help a friend when you don't have any answers. I'm sure if he could break Jr's curse, he would. Jr knows that's quite likely the case. Both of them know Jr's in a slump and its sometimes Jr's fault when it's something he does that continues his streak of bad incidences.
Now take a driver who they may both believe is the better of the two, having a great season, and here's Dale trying hard but doesn't want to be a problem to any friends or chasers... and he fails. He loses his car and wrecks himself and others.
I think Tony's instinct is to blurt out an insult to get a point across: "Dude you're screwing up and you're taking people down with you..." Sure it came out like 'no talent SOB' but here lies the seriousness of what he's saying. "...don't let it happen again or else..."
He's not saying it'll effect their off track relationship but his on-track respect for Junior won't endure another incident.
That's what I think I get from what was said. Junior is more aware than anyone and probably holds a lot of guilt because of it. After something like this, his tail is between his legs anyway, but Tony is announcing that he won't put up with getting brought down with him.
good post thanks

“Earnhardt Fans Rule”

Since: Sep 07

Florida

#10 Nov 18, 2009
Jim wrote:
<quoted text>
If I’ve been “stuck on replay” for two years, then what do you say to those who have been making excuses (for two years) the last one being the he’s “cursed”?
If you don’t believe you are one of the sheep or think that he’s a god, then why do those words bother you?
What TS said supports what I’ve been saying (for two years) and boy that just burns your britches up don't it?
Well let’s take a look at some things that Jr. has said;
Earnhardt radioed his crew and said, "Tell Vickers if he wants to meet me in the garage to get his (rear) beat, I'm willing."
What does that say of the kind of person he is or where’s the sportsmanship?
RH “helped” TS have the best equipment?
I bet TS pays a pretty penny for that “help”.
As for the “bad year” comment, he hasn’t had a “good” year since 2004.
You call it “crap” because you don’t agree with me, so I say to you “get over your crap”.
Just so I known where you stand are you against drivers saying and doing things that create rivalries or are you just saying that the Jr-Vickers exchange was unsportsmanlike as well.
jrw

Glen Burnie, MD

#11 Nov 18, 2009
Jim wrote:
<quoted text>
If I’ve been “stuck on replay” for two years, then what do you say to those who have been making excuses (for two years) the last one being the he’s “cursed”?
If you don’t believe you are one of the sheep or think that he’s a god, then why do those words bother you?
What TS said supports what I’ve been saying (for two years) and boy that just burns your britches up don't it?
Well let’s take a look at some things that Jr. has said;
Earnhardt radioed his crew and said, "Tell Vickers if he wants to meet me in the garage to get his (rear) beat, I'm willing."
What does that say of the kind of person he is or where’s the sportsmanship?
RH “helped” TS have the best equipment?
I bet TS pays a pretty penny for that “help”.
As for the “bad year” comment, he hasn’t had a “good” year since 2004.
You call it “crap” because you don’t agree with me, so I say to you “get over your crap”.
lol..Jim, your words don't bother me..I really don't care what you or anyone here at topix thinks of me.

BV isn't his teammate either now is he..and Jr never said he didn't have talent now did he? You twist it any which way ya choose.
I was never on any crap to get over..but nice try there.
Bye.
Til next season.
Jim

Manchester, NH

#12 Nov 18, 2009
jgibbens wrote:
<quoted text>Just so I known where you stand are you against drivers saying and doing things that create rivalries or are you just saying that the Jr-Vickers exchange was unsportsmanlike as well.
I could care less what they say to each other and yes if "they" believe what TS was unsportsmanlike then what Jr. said is as well, but "they" will never see it that way, because Jr. couldn't possible do something wrong.

It's the usual double standard that exsist when it comes to Jr. from his fans.
Jim

Bedford, NH

#13 Nov 18, 2009
jrw wrote:
<quoted text>lol..Jim, your words don't bother me..I really don't care what you or anyone here at topix thinks of me.
It obviously DID bother you or you wouldn't have posted to me and my "crap".
jrw wrote:
<quoted text>BV isn't his teammate either now is he..and Jr never said he didn't have talent now did he? You twist it any which way ya choose.
BV isn't Jr. teammate, well neither is TS and before you try and say he is, HE ISN'T.

Take a hard long look in the mirror, the only one twisting things is you.

You don't answer my questions you just come up with comments like "isn't his teammate" or "he never said".

Unsportsmanlike conduct is unsportsmanlike conduct no matter who made the comment, who it refers to or what is said.

“Just quit jr.”

Since: Aug 09

WVU

#14 Nov 18, 2009
Damn Jim, fans must be gettin' soft!!! No name calling or personal attacks, what's up with that???

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#15 Nov 18, 2009
3TOES wrote:
Damn Jim, fans must be gettin' soft!!! No name calling or personal attacks, what's up with that???
Jr fans don't call others names, at least not on here, Maybe on the pitboard
Christy88

San Antonio, TX

#16 Nov 18, 2009
jrw wrote:
<quoted text>lol..Jim, your words don't bother me..I really don't care what you or anyone here at topix thinks of me.
BV isn't his teammate either now is he..and Jr never said he didn't have talent now did he? You twist it any which way ya choose.
I was never on any crap to get over..but nice try there.
Bye.
Til next season.
Hey JRW!I see things are the same around here just makes still laugh. Fact is Jr caused a wreck and so has every other driver on the track including drivers that have won championships. Fact Jr is having another horrible season but who cares I will still cheer for him and if I choose to spend my hard earned money on a Jr shirt then so be it at least im not on welfare or disability like some on here.And who is to tell me that im wasting my money or that im cheering for a no talent SOB.
Jokers

Dallas, TX

#17 Nov 18, 2009
Christy88 wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey JRW!I see things are the same around here just makes still laugh. Fact is Jr caused a wreck and so has every other driver on the track including drivers that have won championships. Fact Jr is having another horrible season but who cares I will still cheer for him and if I choose to spend my hard earned money on a Jr shirt then so be it at least im not on welfare or disability like some on here.And who is to tell me that im wasting my money or that im cheering for a no talent SOB.
Jealous Tony Stewart fans have no manners. In fact for them to bring dale down he has to be above them. Just think how PATHETIC they must be to live online and want to rule topix.
Jokers

Dallas, TX

#18 Nov 18, 2009
Tony is not a good friend he's a big child throwing a tantrum. He will never change. Kyle Busch reminds me of Tony but Kyle is young and growing up and Tony who is almost 40 never will. Pedophile with Jessica even if she's 18 she could be his child. SICKDIKKK.
Jokers

Dallas, TX

#19 Nov 18, 2009
Jim wrote:
<quoted text>
I could care less what they say to each other and yes if "they" believe what TS was unsportsmanlike then what Jr. said is as well, but "they" will never see it that way, because Jr. couldn't possible do something wrong.
It's the usual double standard that exsist when it comes to Jr. from his fans.
Hows the Vagina,,, Jim? I wont tell anyone you have one.

Since: Nov 09

Webb City, MO

#20 Nov 18, 2009
Sorry to say but the whole frickin LOT of you take a simple forum topic about this driver or that one, drag in your favorite, start hating on another, turn it into a personal matter and then start a status war and try to claim you're above it. I'll try to take note of anyone who seems mature enough but I'm sorry to say there's very few who fit that description.

Don't ask who I'm talking about. If the shoe fits...

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