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Mary

Manquin, VA

#75 Feb 2, 2009
Issue #4:
chrisco wrote:
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I'm not sure what your point is here. Yes Jack hates the fact that Toyota is in Nascar Sprint Cup racing. And he makes no bones about it, I don't agree with him but the fact that he speaks his mind but continues to strive to perform at the highest level with the hand he has been dealt is no reason to declare him arch nemisis #1. The sport you enjoy is better because Chevy and Ford have gone toe to toe for decades. The sport is better because of owners like Hendrick, Gibbs, Roush who put winning and providing a quality contest first.
Again its painfully apparent why you hate them, but I would gently suggest you should expect more from the drivers and teams you choose to root for; its been the fan's demand for a quality product that has made this sport grow as it has. When more and more people like you accept loosing, mediocrity and the bare minimum week after week as acceptable the sport can only suffer as a result.
I don't believe you understood what I meant here.

Roush in my book should concentrate more on beating Chevy in their strong spot & not helping them in there weak spot, no matter who their opponent is, or Ford could become disloyal.
Mary

Manquin, VA

#76 Feb 2, 2009
Issue #5
chrisco wrote:
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Brainwashing, really?
How many years did Mark Martin drive for Roush?(is he real smart or not) Can't have it both ways.
I don't think you read this right either.

Some of the ways & abilities I've seen the Roush drivers race make me believe they were brainwashed at times. My assumption is he might have gotten close to Mark, but Mark was too smart for him. I also believe Mark wanted to prove his loyalty to him which is why he stayed there for so long.

... Maybe this all started when Mark was screwed out of the title in 1990... I wonder what you think there. I think Rosuh to this day is bitter about that.
Mary

Manquin, VA

#77 Feb 2, 2009
Now that I expressed my opinions to "Chrisco," it's "Wallbanger's" turn...

Issue #1:
wallbanger wrote:
I fail to see how this ruined the truck series that season, really?
Is it really that unusual that team mates help each other out in any of the three series? I remember, especially on the RP-tracks, it is almost essential to winning, like BigE blocking for POS, Busch and No-Neck last year or how about POS launcing our favorite, that 10 Million Dollar Man (Chopsticks) and blocking for him in one of the Twins last season? If it hadn't been for that little move, Ol' Fat Wallet would have be doing----"I Hit-The-Hauler" (once again!).
I guess I fail to see your point or maybe you fail to prove that point.
Try again.
10-4?
When you think about it, 2000 was the ONLY year the Truck Series title fight did NOT come down to the last race, & Kurt Busch was the driver who finished second to Biffle. In case you don't remember, the Non-Roush Truck Champion that year was Andy Houston, a driver who I wish was still racing. He is good, but never got a decent right... & I'm not sure I see your point about everything else.
Mary

Manquin, VA

#78 Feb 2, 2009
Issue #2:
wallbanger wrote:
Chrisco..........some well-made points, btw, concerning Uncle Jack Roush.
Many of these Wall-Banger-Kook-Aid drinkers (wall-nutz) are mighty jealous of Uncle Jack Roush and his drivers, especially Cousin Carl, for all of Jack's 9 teams are about......"very high performance"; and it shows on a weekly basis.
10-4?
Are you believe I'm jealous of Roush!? HA!!!!! Getting angry with, maybe! Not, jealous!

So are you saying Roush is jealous of Hendrick!?...
Mary

Manquin, VA

#79 Feb 2, 2009
go mwr wrote:
<quoted text>I Don't know if it's the "Freak-O-Zoids" as much as it is just Roach himself! Although I like to call Edwards the "Roidrager" as I think the steroids or other "muscle enhancing suppliments" he takes has taken his personality away! The Biff and Kenseth act alot alike, robot interviews etc..(Big I'm Sorry to Dill there:) Roach on the other hand has all but run off or traded-bought out all but The Wood Bros. and a few small run some races Fords out of the sport, Has circumvented NASCAR rules, Newest one is and will be the 4 team rule, by running RYR so now Roach is running at least an 8 car monopoly (not counting the satelite teams) all the while crying to whomever will listen "It ain't fair" about the 4 car rule! That's all we will hear from the Roach every interview in '09! It would be interresting to see who is outspending who, Roach & Ford or Toyota!
Jackpot! You're right on the money!!!!!

Sigh... I hope I solved everyones problems. See ya in a little while!...

“Sit on it! ”

Since: Jun 08

Kyle Universe

#80 Feb 2, 2009
Mary wrote:
Issue #3:
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While it is true Kurt & Kyle have demonstrated ability, it is the ablility to be dirty drivers & be nothing more than NASCAR's pests... & no, them having quality rides is NOT the reson I don't trust them or like them for that matter.
A majority of the drivers I like have always been underdogs & they always manage to be successfull.
... That last sentance about Kyle you said, GENIUS!!!!! I couldn't have said it better myself. I'll give you props there!
The only pest I see is you.
Dillinger

Miami, FL

#81 Feb 2, 2009
chrisco wrote:
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I've considered this one and I can certainly understand how the kool-aid drinker would feel this way. The chase format and scoring changes certainly separate the men from the boys when it comes to drivers and race teams. Without the chase if you sucked during a season where a guy ran away with it you were basically were lumped in with 41 other guys who did not win the series and you could argue that they sucked as hard as you (even though that is far from the truth). Now there are more skins to win, you make the chase, you earned a skin, you distinguish yourself from the field along with 11 other quality teams and drivers. You finish P13 you earn a skin. The chase format prevents one quy from running awaywith it mid season and gives the guys in P13, 14, 15, 16, 17 somthing to race for in the last third of the season. It reduces the likelihood of the runaway season while still rewarding the top teams. Its difficult to argue with that but I understand why you would:
I hate the lucky dog rule. It's an artifical and contrived competitive reward for more times than not - not being competitive. I think more times than not it rewards the bottom tier drivers - your driver all too frequently. My guess is you probably love the lucky dog rule and if not drink some more of that off season kool aid.
Oh, and how did Roush "use" Kenseth, is it drugs, hypnosis, does he have pictures, did he send a certified letter? What's your theory there.
Such bitterness towards winners.
they locked Matty in a closet and made him stare at psychedelic images with a voice saying over and over again "join us."
Mary

Manquin, VA

#83 Feb 2, 2009
18chick wrote:
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The only pest I see is you.
Look who's talking!...

Why do you always have to bash me even though you know I'm right!? Are you against people who like kind people or something!?...

“Sit on it! ”

Since: Jun 08

Kyle Universe

#85 Feb 2, 2009
Mary wrote:
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Look who's talking!...
Why do you always have to bash me even though you know I'm right!? Are you against people who like kind people or something!?...
I'm not bashing you, I'm giving an honest opinion. And IMO, You seem to be annoying.
Mary

Manquin, VA

#86 Feb 2, 2009
wallbanger wrote:
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Mary (Mary, quite contrary)....you give the....appearance of being....."A Legend In You Own Mind"........?
All that I know is my....."Bull-Shit-Meter "....tends to go-off quite a bit when your posts about Uncle Jack Roush (my idol, don't you kown!) are ran through it.
10-4?
Uhhh...

First, it was "18Chick" who talked to me so I responded with what I thought about her comment.

Second, you have strange taste!...

Third, does your meter work on you!? I think it'd go off big time on you at some points in time.
Mary

Manquin, VA

#88 Feb 3, 2009
18chick wrote:
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I'm not bashing you, I'm giving an honest opinion. And IMO, You seem to be annoying.
... Ok that I can agree with. I know I can be annoying at times. I tend to get real loud when things don't go right for me. My 5 friends could tell you that easy! So at least your right there!
Mary

Manquin, VA

#89 Feb 3, 2009
wallbanger wrote:
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Mary (Mary, quite contrary)---It was that post about Uncle Jack Roush (my idol, don't you know?) brain-washing his drivers, that really sent my...."Bull Shit Meter"....into....overloa d. I had to return it to the manufacture (JAP-junk!), as you bent the needle.
Also, that part about Uncle Jack ruining the 2000 CTS for you. I don't know about that one, either. The meter did hit..........9.5.....on that part of the post, also.
No........"Bull-Shit "........out of wallbanger, only facts, which if under the influence of enough Wall-Banger-Kook-Aid......are difficult to comprehend, at times, as several of the Banger-Buds have over-imbibed on that shit [Wall-Banger Kook-Aid] and as you are aware, yourself, it tends to distort accurate comprehension of factual-data and posts.
Got anymore Jack Roush.........."bullshit "....to share with the Banger-Buds. I know chrisco, Dill, Freakie, BigE and wall would love to read some more. I, myself, ol' wallbanger, would love to read more about just how Uncle Jack (my idol) "brainwashes" his drivers. Elaborate more on what technique Jack uses on them. I know he [Uncle Jack} has a Master of Science degree in both engineering and math; but, did not know he ever was a student of Freud, Jung, Pavlov, Lang, Jung, Skinner (the behaviorist, not Mike), and Thorndike (sorry, my mistake, just watched "High Anxiety", again, yesterday for about the 50th time--that Mel Brooks is an effin' genius).
10-4?
Uhhh dude... I really didn't want to ask this, but I think I must due to your last post: What planet are you from!?

Is JAP-Junk soem sort of company from Mars or Jupiter, because I've never heard of it on Earth.

In addition, I don't know what kind of method Roush would use to brain wash his drivers if he's doing so. One of my term papers in school a while back was on "Does Rap music have an effect on people?" Maybe he's using Rap music to take control of his drivers, because my research showed that Rap music could make you more violent & it has been proven it can reduce your IQ points. Maybe that's what he's doing, because simple hypnosis sounds too easy... Hey! You say your related to him, how about you ask Jack for us. I think we all need to know. Oh, & if he says "What are you talking about" or just laughs at you, tell him it'd be your little secret.

Maybe that will work...
nasfan55

United States

#90 Feb 3, 2009
Mary wrote:
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Uhhh dude... I really didn't want to ask this, but I think I must due to your last post: What planet are you from!?
Is JAP-Junk soem sort of company from Mars or Jupiter, because I've never heard of it on Earth.
In addition, I don't know what kind of method Roush would use to brain wash his drivers if he's doing so. One of my term papers in school a while back was on "Does Rap music have an effect on people?" Maybe he's using Rap music to take control of his drivers, because my research showed that Rap music could make you more violent & it has been proven it can reduce your IQ points. Maybe that's what he's doing, because simple hypnosis sounds too easy... Hey! You say your related to him, how about you ask Jack for us. I think we all need to know. Oh, & if he says "What are you talking about" or just laughs at you, tell him it'd be your little secret.
Maybe that will work...
Oh Mary, you are a gallant warrior. Don't get tired of sparring with the Wall. He has been like this since I started reading and posting on this forum. He never tires of criticizing MW and the Japanese, Chinks, Commies, kook aid drinkers, walnutz, and the like. Sometimes its fun to ridicule him and get a rise out of him. He's like a large bass in a lake, when he takes the bait your in for a really good fight. Just don't think that you will get any reality out of him because he sees everything through his rose colored glasses. Have a wonderful day Mary.

10-4
can't wait for it.
nasfan55

United States

#92 Feb 3, 2009
wallbanger wrote:
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nasfan, the only person who has ever said....nicer...things about me....is.....my ex-wife!
Thanks for helping out Mary (Mary, quite contrary); however, Mary, little of what nasfan stated......is true.
Totally disregard the part about the rose-colored glasses; as, you are seeing, first-hand, I might add, those dastardly effects of over-consumption of Wall-Banger Kook-Aid!
I know that nasfan digs his Dr. Pepper, as does wall; but, it should never be ingested with any......Wall-Banger-Kook-Aid.
10-4, nasfan?
Wait-For-It
Woof-Woof (for that hunk of a bear---Benito)!
__________
"This day reminds me of my career. So much hope, so much promise. SHITTY RESULTS," (POS-10/26/2008 at AMS)
Thats a big 10-4 Wall!

woof woof!!
Mary

Manquin, VA

#93 Feb 3, 2009
nasfan55 wrote:
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Oh Mary, you are a gallant warrior. Don't get tired of sparring with the Wall. He has been like this since I started reading and posting on this forum. He never tires of criticizing MW and the Japanese, Chinks, Commies, kook aid drinkers, walnutz, and the like. Sometimes its fun to ridicule him and get a rise out of him. He's like a large bass in a lake, when he takes the bait your in for a really good fight. Just don't think that you will get any reality out of him because he sees everything through his rose colored glasses. Have a wonderful day Mary.
10-4
can't wait for it.
Agreed 100%!!!!!

I hope you have a good day too! I sure am!
Dillinger

AOL

#94 Feb 4, 2009
wallbanger wrote:
Mary writes:
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"1. It was Roush who mostly ruined the Truck Series' only bad year (2000), when (A) Kurt Busch almost killed Geoff Bodine at Daytona & (B) Kurt was used as a pick so Greg Biffle could easily win the title (It's true; the difference was, what, 300-something points)."
__________
I fail to see how this ruined the truck series that season, really?
Is it really that unusual that team mates help each other out in any of the three series? I remember, especially on the RP-tracks, it is almost essential to winning, like BigE blocking for POS, Busch and No-Neck last year or how about POS launcing our favorite, that 10 Million Dollar Man (Chopsticks) and blocking for him in one of the Twins last season? If it hadn't been for that little move, Ol' Fat Wallet would have be doing----"I Hit-The-Hauler" (once again!).
I guess I fail to see your point or maybe you fail to prove that point.
Try again.
10-4?
__________
"This day reminds me of my career. So much hope, so much promise. SHITTY RESULTS," (POS-10/26/2008 at AMS)
Not according to Mafia Mike. The truck race wasn't ruined by anyone. I do not get to see the trucks very often, but Reuti was supposed to have been very good in them.
Dillinger

AOL

#96 Feb 24, 2009
Mr Consistency wrote:
So far Jack is kicking TOYOTAS butt!
BUY AMERICAN
And, bring the jobs that are supposed to be here back home!!
nasfan55

United States

#97 Feb 25, 2009
wallbanger wrote:
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nasfan, the only person who has ever said....nicer...things about me....is.....my ex-wife!
Thanks for helping out Mary (Mary, quite contrary); however, Mary, little of what nasfan stated......is true.
Totally disregard the part about the rose-colored glasses; as, you are seeing, first-hand, I might add, those dastardly effects of over-consumption of Wall-Banger Kook-Aid!
I know that nasfan digs his Dr. Pepper, as does wall; but, it should never be ingested with any......Wall-Banger-Kook-Aid.
10-4, nasfan?
Wait-For-It
Woof-Woof (for that hunk of a bear---Benito)!
__________
"This day reminds me of my career. So much hope, so much promise. SHITTY RESULTS," (POS-10/26/2008 at AMS)
Hey Wall, How's you ex-wife today? If you would tell me how to get up with her we could come up with some really nice things to say about you. Don't you think that would be loads of fun?

I did think of you yesterday when I popped the top of an ice cold Dr. Pepper. Those warm fuzzies came all over me as I thought fondly of old Wall sitting up there in the frozen Ohio wilderness. See ya later and have a Pepper for me.

10-4
can't wait for it.

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