NASCAR committee denies RCR's appeal to reverse Bowyer's 150-point ...

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A NASCAR committee denied Richard Childress Racing's appeal to have Clint Bowyer's championship-ending penalty reversed, and the team owner vowed Wednesday to fight the decision to the organization's highest level. Full Story
tdanny

Moncton, Canada

#1 Sep 29, 2010
Well let them take the points and that win.Now win more races and throw it back in there faces.
Rabman

Huntsville, AL

#2 Sep 29, 2010
Richard childress is a damn cheat. Now he is trashing the orgization that made him filty rich. He should have taken the penalty and kept his mouth shut. That would have been more beneficial for him and NASCAR. Denny you told it like it was. If you going to race someone lets make it even. As far as Kelvin Harvick he nothing more than a "Butt Boy" for Childress.
CRAIG CAUDILL

Warner Robins, GA

#3 Sep 29, 2010
WELL MR HTLER FRANCE YOU AND YOUR COMMITTEE HAVE GIVEN ME JUST CAUSE TO TEAR UP MY TICKETS AND NEVER ATTEND ANOTHER RACE AGAIN. THIS IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU SELL OUT TO CORPORATE AMERICA. TAKE ONE OF THE MOST LOVED AND WATCHED SPORTS IN AMERICA AND RUN IT STRAIGHT INTO THE OUT HOUSE.....I'M GOING DIRT TRACKING FROM NOW ON....AT LEAST THE PEOPLE THERE ARE REAL AND NOT THESE MAMBY PANZIES YOU PARADE ACROSS THE STAGE EACH AND EVERY WEEKEND
barr

Temperance, MI

#4 Sep 29, 2010
NASCAR officials knew that at least Bowyers car was borderline illegal most of the year and warned them before the chase. They though they could still get away with it and NASCAR slapped pretty hard. NASCAR didn't have to penalize Bowyer to keep him from winning the championship this year. JJ is going to win it anyway and 5 or 6 guys would have finished ahead of Bowyer.
dylanc422

Delray Beach, FL

#5 Sep 29, 2010
General Mils waits for 14 years for a win and Nascar makes sure to screw it up and tarnish it for the width of an envelope.

Great way to treat a multi-million dollar sponsor when nascar has trouble getting sponsors.

If I ran general mills, i would drop my sponsorship TOMORROW.

I'm done watching this "sport".What a waste.
lon

Fulda, MN

#6 Sep 29, 2010
IF, a big word here ! A team is told to watch their clearances...and...they are caught to be illegal, yes it is correct to punish them as NASCAR has done in the past. Sure, it is bad for this team, but, they knew they were borderline. Clint was stupid, yes stupid for not hitting the wall during his burnouts and damaging the rear of his car if only the crew chief could have told him without using a radio. tough break for RCR ........

“IN GOD WE TRUST”

Since: Jun 07

Raleigh

#7 Sep 30, 2010
My feeling is RCR was doing the same thing they and every other team does, take every allowed tolerance to the limit. Sure, they had been warned they were getting near the limit. But I think this time they didn't accurately test how close they were and accidentally set themselves up for this situation. As for Bowyer not hitting the wall with the car during his burnout, I don't think he knew that anything was wrong with the car. It had passed tech and I think that is all he knew. This whole situation will just serve to make the rest of the teams backup just a little. This little infraction couldn't add much to the performance of the car but add that to several other pushs of the tolerances and it can have a much greater effect to the car performance.

Since: Jul 10

Baltimore Md

#8 Sep 30, 2010
Rabman wrote:
Richard childress is a damn cheat. Now he is trashing the orgization that made him filty rich. He should have taken the penalty and kept his mouth shut. That would have been more beneficial for him and NASCAR. Denny you told it like it was. If you going to race someone lets make it even. As far as Kelvin Harvick he nothing more than a "Butt Boy" for Childress.
Its a real shame that idiots like you know how to read and write.

Since: Jul 10

Baltimore Md

#9 Sep 30, 2010
lon wrote:
IF, a big word here ! A team is told to watch their clearances...and...they are caught to be illegal, yes it is correct to punish them as NASCAR has done in the past. Sure, it is bad for this team, but, they knew they were borderline. Clint was stupid, yes stupid for not hitting the wall during his burnouts and damaging the rear of his car if only the crew chief could have told him without using a radio. tough break for RCR ........
Have you ANY idea WHAT they had a problem with ?? The 'tolerance' is about less than the space made by > <. What possible advance can this be ??

Since: Jul 10

Baltimore Md

#10 Sep 30, 2010
barr wrote:
NASCAR officials knew that at least Bowyers car was borderline illegal most of the year and warned them before the chase. They though they could still get away with it and NASCAR slapped pretty hard. NASCAR didn't have to penalize Bowyer to keep him from winning the championship this year. JJ is going to win it anyway and 5 or 6 guys would have finished ahead of Bowyer.
Most sports want PARITY to keep up fan interest. The three stooges of NA$CAR (France, helton and Pemberton) just don't get this concept. They've micro-manages themselves into this position by changing the rules every week, BS tech inspections in the name of safety .. they just don;t get it .....
The Fat and the Furious

Detroit, MI

#11 Sep 30, 2010
Obviously, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that going beyond the tolerances is an advantage. Think about it. Why would teams risk doing so otherwise? I could care less about Denny and what he had to say, but at least he threw that fact out there for everybody. This penalty was deserved at that's the end of that story. You're given room beyond the requirements and when you go even further outside that box and get caught, you take your medicine and move on. This isn't the first time this has happened and it won't be the last. Teams try their best to get and advantage anyway they can and sometimes it bites them. They're not cheaters, they all do it, and sometimes you take it a little to far. Believe me, I seriously doubt that Clint had the only car out there that day that was technically illegal. When you're one of the ones getting broken down and inspected, than you may get caught.

As for all these whining fans. You know nothing about Nascar. This is the way Nascar has been done since the beginning. People have tried every conceivable thing for an advantage on the track and yes, that includes even when the cars really were stock.

Idiotic comments like Clint shouldn't be penalized because a sponsor might get upset are just that, idiotic. Would you be upset about Lowe's if Jimmie's car would have been found illegal? I seriously doubt it. For that matter, would people be upset in any way if Jimmie received a penalty for the same thing. I think we all know the answer to that. Jimmie fans might, but the rest of you, I'm thinking that wold be a big no. Excepting those few who really understand racing and are true fans. They know that's how it goes and it's not exclusive to just a team or two.

So, adios to all you non-racing fans. Quit all your whining and leave already. You keep saying it day after day, week after week, but yet you're still here. If you don't understand how the sport works than it's better off without you anyway. Despite what you think, true Nascar fans will keep on watching. In fact, maybe the racing can get back some of it's glory days once your gone. You do realize that you people are the reason that Nascar is what it currently is. Trying to appeal to people who have little clue about what really happens in the garage and at the track every weekend. Once all you whining pukes are gone, the more enjoyable it will be for we real fans.

No one ever said Nascar was perfect, but show me a sport that is. So you feel free to move on to baseball, football, hockey or your local track (where they also do anything they can for an advantage and get penalized sometimes too.) Me, I'll keep enjoying Nascar as I always have, because I understand that very little has really changed. If anything, Nascar if far more fair that it's ever even come close to being.
WWE CRASHCAR 2010

Florham Park, NJ

#12 Sep 30, 2010
barr wrote:
NASCAR officials knew that at least Bowyers car was borderline illegal most of the year and warned them before the chase. They though they could still get away with it and NASCAR slapped pretty hard. NASCAR didn't have to penalize Bowyer to keep him from winning the championship this year. JJ is going to win it anyway and 5 or 6 guys would have finished ahead of Bowyer.
So you're saying NASCAR let Bowyer run an illegal car all year, allowing him to make the chase, then they waited for the chase to penalize him. Wasn't it Richard Childress Racing who setup Jr's nationwide fixer at Daytona? When that car showed up for post race inspection NASCAR probably gave it a wave around.
The Fat and the Furious

Detroit, MI

#13 Sep 30, 2010
WWE CRASHCAR 2010 wrote:
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So you're saying NASCAR let Bowyer run an illegal car all year, allowing him to make the chase, then they waited for the chase to penalize him. Wasn't it Richard Childress Racing who setup Jr's nationwide fixer at Daytona? When that car showed up for post race inspection NASCAR probably gave it a wave around.
I don't think they were saying the car was illegal all year necessarily, but that Nascar had warned them that they're pushing real close to the tolerances that they allow. Unfortunately, when you're that close to the limits, it's easy to go over those limits. Nascar has warned teams in the past, present and will in the future when they feel a team is on the verge of being penalized. Penalties don't help anyone involved in the sport or Nascar as a organization, but are a necessary part of any competition. Plus, how many times has that 33 car been inspected this year? Not many would be my guess. So, who knows what they may have gotten away with. They certainly aren't the only ones who have been technically illegal, but you take your chances sometimes. It's even harder for those teams who win often, because they know they may be inspected, either by winning, or simply Nascar will choose to take them back to the R&D center because of their success. Of course, the flip side to that is, when you're a big name, you also get some benefits over other drivers. I know some people like to believe that isn't true, but I have little doubt it happens. It's certainly not something exclusive to Nascar either. The big names in every professional sport get breaks that others don't get. That's just a fact of life. You either accept that and deal with it or you choose to be a fan of none of those activities. In the end, the all mighty dollar is important to every organization and they all believe that those who put people in the seats will get some advantages that others don't.

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