NOTEBOOK: Johnson's 'qualified' to win title

Nov 19, 2010 Full story: The Gaston Gazette 87

Qualifying favors Jimmie Johnson in bid for fifth straight championship. Foster Gillett present but unaccounted for.

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debrobeaudean

Elkridge, MD

#1 Nov 23, 2010
when the 48 team goes to the track TO qualify.. no race practice at all before qualifying.. one would think the other teams would eventually figure out how important it is to get a good pit stall and to get good track position right out of the box... it is maddening that the 48 team keeps outfoxing the rest of the teams in this way because Jimmie is seriously not any better of a driver than any others.. and in fact,, he cannot race and complains when he needs to.. It is insulting for him to once against be the champ..
You get over it

Katy, TX

#2 Nov 23, 2010
debrobeaudean wrote:
when the 48 team goes to the track TO qualify.. no race practice at all before qualifying.. one would think the other teams would eventually figure out how important it is to get a good pit stall and to get good track position right out of the box... it is maddening that the 48 team keeps outfoxing the rest of the teams in this way because Jimmie is seriously not any better of a driver than any others.. and in fact,, he cannot race and complains when he needs to.. It is insulting for him to once against be the champ..
I'd say, ole Jimmie sure has a lot of trophies to show off for someone who "cannot race." Maybe he ain't "outfoxing" maybe he's just better'n them other drivers.

“How We Roll”

Since: Nov 08

Area 51, Nevada

#3 Nov 23, 2010
debrobeaudean wrote:
Jimmie is seriously not any better of a driver than any others.. and in fact,, he cannot race and complains when he needs to.. It is insulting for him to once against be the champ..
lmao I guess you dont know what qualifies as a good driver. Its called giving excellent feedback, keeping out of trouble, not panicking... And its not just the driver who has to be on their game. This is a team sport, and the CC can't goof up a call and cause his driver to second guess whether to pit or not.

Denny's CC should have made it simple: "Watch those guys behind you, if they come in, YOU come in!" That's common sense, anyway but with that CC going "Bla bla bla, bla bla bla" it complicated what should have been a VERY simple routine pitstop.

Of course, it was short pitting just before his teammate tried to block Harvick that got the 11 stuck a lap down when he should have been back on sync with the others, with just 2 or 3 laps older tires. This wasn't anyone's fault, it was just unforeseen circumstances, a team mate willing to do everything in his power to help, and Harvick 's unwillingness to allow the 18 to hold him back.

Now, add the 3-wide incident that got Denny in the grass, which was HIS fault, and Chad getting the 48 up to pace with the leaders by the end of the race. What do you get? A great performance beating the team with a worse performance. Want to get down to the the real deal? Denny being too many laps shy on fuel in the previous race that closed the points gap, and a poor qualying effort that stuck him behind in points at the start of the last race.

Face it, they chose WRONG not working on qual setup. They have all race long to get a race setup competitive. That stuck Denny in back, behind in points, increased the pressure on him, and Denny proved he wasn't up to that challenge by slamming into the 16 car. Harvick also not up to the challenge, risked speeding on pit road. Mistakes that basically handed Jimmie the title, since he has proven 4 times before that he's not one to choke when the pressure is on.

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#4 Nov 23, 2010
alpinedigital wrote:
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lmao I guess you dont know what qualifies as a good driver. Its called giving excellent feedback, keeping out of trouble, not panicking... And its not just the driver who has to be on their game. This is a team sport, and the CC can't goof up a call and cause his driver to second guess whether to pit or not.
Denny's CC should have made it simple: "Watch those guys behind you, if they come in, YOU come in!" That's common sense, anyway but with that CC going "Bla bla bla, bla bla bla" it complicated what should have been a VERY simple routine pitstop.
Of course, it was short pitting just before his teammate tried to block Harvick that got the 11 stuck a lap down when he should have been back on sync with the others, with just 2 or 3 laps older tires. This wasn't anyone's fault, it was just unforeseen circumstances, a team mate willing to do everything in his power to help, and Harvick 's unwillingness to allow the 18 to hold him back.
Now, add the 3-wide incident that got Denny in the grass, which was HIS fault, and Chad getting the 48 up to pace with the leaders by the end of the race. What do you get? A great performance beating the team with a worse performance. Want to get down to the the real deal? Denny being too many laps shy on fuel in the previous race that closed the points gap, and a poor qualying effort that stuck him behind in points at the start of the last race.
Face it, they chose WRONG not working on qual setup. They have all race long to get a race setup competitive. That stuck Denny in back, behind in points, increased the pressure on him, and Denny proved he wasn't up to that challenge by slamming into the 16 car. Harvick also not up to the challenge, risked speeding on pit road. Mistakes that basically handed Jimmie the title, since he has proven 4 times before that he's not one to choke when the pressure is on.
Stop Bashing Denny for that spin. Clearly the 16 bumped into him.

“How We Roll”

Since: Nov 08

Area 51, Nevada

#5 Nov 23, 2010
JohnnyDeppfan2 wrote:
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Stop Bashing Denny for that spin. Clearly the 16 bumped into him.
you know, u can omit any text that isn't relevant to your response. No need to leave the entire quote there.

As for Denny's obvious mistake - he shouldn't have risked exiting 3 wide, putting himself in a very compromising position. He shouldn't have driven close enough to be 'bumped' by the 16 if that is what you believe happened.

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#6 Nov 23, 2010
alpinedigital wrote:
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you know, u can omit any text that isn't relevant to your response. No need to leave the entire quote there.
As for Denny's obvious mistake - he shouldn't have risked exiting 3 wide, putting himself in a very compromising position. He shouldn't have driven close enough to be 'bumped' by the 16 if that is what you believe happened.
He was driving through the front, While I agree it was risky, He Was on a Mission to the front.
You get over it

Katy, TX

#7 Nov 23, 2010
JohnnyDeppfan2 wrote:
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He was driving through the front, While I agree it was risky, He Was on a Mission to the front.
And...he screwed it up and spun out. Those are the kind of risks you take, and sometimes they don't pay off. It's all part of success, knowing when to take the risk and knowing when to wait, when you make the wrong decision there are consequences. Those things all add up and that's what separates the champs from the also-rans...

“How We Roll”

Since: Nov 08

Area 51, Nevada

#8 Nov 23, 2010
JohnnyDeppfan2 wrote:
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He was driving through the front, While I agree it was risky, He Was on a Mission to the front.
I don't see how this qualifies as a good excuse for wrecking. Also don't see the point in being that aggressive. I mean, it was embarrassing enough he didn't qualify well, didn't get good pit selection, started way behind in points, had to drive from the back... So he gets splitter damage, has to stop several times for repairs, race forward for nothing because he ends up getting more repairs to send him to the back again and again...

So, for being on a mission to drive to the front, he goes 1 step forward, 5 steps back? How was that mission working out for him?

Since: Mar 10

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#9 Nov 23, 2010
alpinedigital wrote:
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I don't see how this qualifies as a good excuse for wrecking. Also don't see the point in being that aggressive. I mean, it was embarrassing enough he didn't qualify well, didn't get good pit selection, started way behind in points, had to drive from the back... So he gets splitter damage, has to stop several times for repairs, race forward for nothing because he ends up getting more repairs to send him to the back again and again...
So, for being on a mission to drive to the front, he goes 1 step forward, 5 steps back? How was that mission working out for him?
At least He didn't throw his team under the bus like Jimmie did.

“IN GOD WE TRUST”

Since: Jun 07

Raleigh

#10 Nov 23, 2010
JohnnyDeppfan2 wrote:
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At least He didn't throw his team under the bus like Jimmie did.
Why don't you call those old boys while they are in Vegas at the banquet and asK them how thrown under the bus they feel. As for Hamlin's mission to get to the front, he should learn to race like the 48 team does from the back to the front, patiently. His rookie move to go three wide off the corner cost him dearly and accomplished nothing except to prove he doesn't have the maturity yet to be champion. Even when Hamlin lucked up and caught Jimmie, he never got impatient and over extended his car. He took his time, the team improved on the car and he gave the 11 a lesson in what it takes to be a CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM, 5 TIMES OVER.
ruttrosmokesmojo

AOL

#11 Nov 23, 2010
Whoyakidding wrote:
<quoted text>Why don't you call those old boys while they are in Vegas at the banquet and asK them how thrown under the bus they feel. As for Hamlin's mission to get to the front, he should learn to race like the 48 team does from the back to the front, patiently. His rookie move to go three wide off the corner cost him dearly and accomplished nothing except to prove he doesn't have the maturity yet to be champion. Even when Hamlin lucked up and caught Jimmie, he never got impatient and over extended his car. He took his time, the team improved on the car and he gave the 11 a lesson in what it takes to be a CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM, 5 TIMES OVER.
Face it they would not have 5 championships with out nascars help.Nascar has loooked the other way so much on stuff that team does,they may as well rename they "grey area" "48's abysss"...JMO...sadly Frances and Co. can hand him 30 championships using the "48 abyss" and it will not gain Jimmie and Co respect or fans. People know better.
You get over it

Katy, TX

#12 Nov 23, 2010
alpinedigital wrote:
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I don't see how this qualifies as a good excuse for wrecking. Also don't see the point in being that aggressive. I mean, it was embarrassing enough he didn't qualify well, didn't get good pit selection, started way behind in points, had to drive from the back... So he gets splitter damage, has to stop several times for repairs, race forward for nothing because he ends up getting more repairs to send him to the back again and again...
So, for being on a mission to drive to the front, he goes 1 step forward, 5 steps back? How was that mission working out for him?
Geeze, when you put it that way, it sounds like he was taking lessons from Dale Jr. All that strategy ain't been working for Jr, either.
You get over it

Katy, TX

#13 Nov 23, 2010
ruttrosmokesmojo wrote:
<quoted text>Face it they would not have 5 championships with out nascars help.Nascar has loooked the other way so much on stuff that team does,they may as well rename they "grey area" "48's abysss"...JMO...sadly Frances and Co. can hand him 30 championships using the "48 abyss" and it will not gain Jimmie and Co respect or fans. People know better.
You've got to be kidding...

If people know better, maybe you can explain to us why Dale Jr has so many fans that they still label him MPD?

Jimmy won those championships fair and square.
ruttrosmokesmojo

AOL

#14 Nov 23, 2010
You get over it wrote:
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You've got to be kidding...
If people know better, maybe you can explain to us why Dale Jr has so many fans that they still label him MPD?
Jimmy won those championships fair and square.
no no je didn't.The "48 abysss"( grey area) granted him the championships. JMO....Take away Chad and Rick and he is 20th or worse. Face it you can take 43rd place driver right now and put them behind the wheel with chads crew cheifing and ricks money and the same "48 abyss" and win a championship. Jimmies a non factor which is why he is a not respected. For a *****5 time champ( astricks for each year)he is not like,respected,or revered as a champ. The greats(Sr, richard,etc.) in this sport may not be liked by all but their talent is respected. No one thinks JImmie has talent. no one respects him.
ruttrosmokesmojo

AOL

#15 Nov 23, 2010
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“How We Roll”

Since: Nov 08

Area 51, Nevada

#16 Nov 23, 2010
JohnnyDeppfan2 wrote:
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At least He didn't throw his team under the bus like Jimmie did.
okay, you went from being naive to being completely clueless. Jimmie didnt throw anyone under the bus. You must not know what that phrase means, clueless wonder.
WayToGo14

Allentown, PA

#17 Nov 24, 2010
ruttrosmokesmojo wrote:
<quoted text>Face it they would not have 5 championships with out nascars help.Nascar has loooked the other way so much on stuff that team does,they may as well rename they "grey area" "48's abysss"...JMO...sadly Frances and Co. can hand him 30 championships using the "48 abyss" and it will not gain Jimmie and Co respect or fans. People know better.
NASCAR gave the race to JR when he drove the #3 for Childress in the Nationwide Race. How else did he take the lead on lap 3 and win. GIVE ME A BREAK. JR will NEVER win another points race. He is overrated .

Since: Mar 10

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#18 Nov 24, 2010
Whoyakidding wrote:
<quoted text>Why don't you call those old boys while they are in Vegas at the banquet and asK them how thrown under the bus they feel. As for Hamlin's mission to get to the front, he should learn to race like the 48 team does from the back to the front, patiently. His rookie move to go three wide off the corner cost him dearly and accomplished nothing except to prove he doesn't have the maturity yet to be champion. Even when Hamlin lucked up and caught Jimmie, he never got impatient and over extended his car. He took his time, the team improved on the car and he gave the 11 a lesson in what it takes to be a CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM, 5 TIMES OVER.
Denny will be a Champion. Did Tony have full Maturity when he won his two Cups? No. Denny will be a player again next year. BTW Your attempts at bashing JGR and discrediting them are old.

Since: Mar 10

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#19 Nov 24, 2010
ruttrosmokesmojo wrote:
<quoted text>no no je didn't.The "48 abysss"( grey area) granted him the championships. JMO....Take away Chad and Rick and he is 20th or worse. Face it you can take 43rd place driver right now and put them behind the wheel with chads crew cheifing and ricks money and the same "48 abyss" and win a championship. Jimmies a non factor which is why he is a not respected. For a *****5 time champ( astricks for each year)he is not like,respected,or revered as a champ. The greats(Sr, richard,etc.) in this sport may not be liked by all but their talent is respected. No one thinks JImmie has talent. no one respects him.
What Have You been in the Bailey's again? No one thinks Jimmie has talent?
You get over it

Katy, TX

#20 Nov 24, 2010
ruttrosmokesmojo wrote:
<quoted text>no no je didn't.The "48 abysss"( grey area) granted him the championships. JMO....Take away Chad and Rick and he is 20th or worse. Face it you can take 43rd place driver right now and put them behind the wheel with chads crew cheifing and ricks money and the same "48 abyss" and win a championship. Jimmies a non factor which is why he is a not respected. For a *****5 time champ( astricks for each year)he is not like,respected,or revered as a champ. The greats(Sr, richard,etc.) in this sport may not be liked by all but their talent is respected. No one thinks JImmie has talent. no one respects him.
"Take away Chad and Rick and he is 20th or worse."

Well, Duh! Take away any of the driver's teams and they won't have any championships, that's a no-brainer. No one can win at any sport without the support of their team.

"Face it you can take 43rd place driver right now and put them behind the wheel with chads crew cheifing and ricks money and the same "48 abyss" and win a championship."

I don't think so, a great part of success is the teamwork, the magic that's created between the team members and how each member of the team contributes to the combined success of the entire team. Putting a lousy driver in Jimmie's car with Jimmie's team won't make a champion out of the lousy driver. Look at how Ray and Jeff were great together, but Ray hasn't had nearly the success since he quit being Jeff's crew chief, yet Jeff went on to win another championship without Ray. And, Martin's engine builders put him in second place in 2009, yet, when they put those guys on Junior's car, it didn't improve Junior's performance one bit. It takes a team and a lot of teamwork, to make a champion. Just as it takes a lot of links to make a chain. However, there is no magic in any one part alone, if one part is not talented enough to get the job done, that weak link will jeopardize the integrity of the entire team.

"Jimmies a non factor which is why he is a not respected. For a *****5 time champ( astricks for each year)he is not like,respected,or revered as a champ. The greats(Sr, richard,etc.) in this sport may not be liked by all but their talent is respected. No one thinks JImmie has talent. no one respects him."

You're wrong again, Jimmie is respected for being a good and clean racer. And many didn't respect Sr because he was a dirty racer that risked the lives of other drivers in his quest to win. Jimmie is a factor on the track, which is why he has 5 championships that any other driver out there would love to line up on their own bookshelf. Jimmie has earned each of those championships by racing clean and hard and being consistently better than the competition. If that ain't talent, I don't know what is.

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